KnightofChrist Posted July 17, 2007 Author Share Posted July 17, 2007 [quote name='Laudate_Dominum' post='1331829' date='Jul 16 2007, 11:45 PM']I have a slightly different translation of that, for example. Mine: [/quote] Your translation is "better" but both are well scary... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laudate_Dominum Posted July 17, 2007 Share Posted July 17, 2007 [quote name='KnightofChrist' post='1331904' date='Jul 17 2007, 12:17 AM']Your translation is "better" but both are well scary...[/quote] I want to get my hands on the original text somehow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightofChrist Posted July 17, 2007 Author Share Posted July 17, 2007 [quote name='Laudate_Dominum' post='1331908' date='Jul 17 2007, 12:20 AM']I want to get my hands on the original text somehow.[/quote] Perhaps you should consider writing 30giorni? Or even better Father Amorth? I've google alot trying to find any contact info for him, I could not... plus I dont think he speaks English..... but you can speak Italian, I assume... I would ask you to write 30giorni see if they can get you to Father Amorth. Its not impossible, I've written Bishops before and they personal responded! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laudate_Dominum Posted July 17, 2007 Share Posted July 17, 2007 [quote name='KnightofChrist' post='1331926' date='Jul 17 2007, 12:26 AM']Perhaps you should consider writing 30giorni? Or even better Father Amorth? I've google alot trying to find any contact info for him, I could not... plus I dont think he speaks English..... but you can speak Italian, I assume... I would ask you to write 30giorni see if they can get you to Father Amorth. Its not impossible, I've written Bishops before and they personal responded![/quote] The height of my Italian speaking skills passed about seven years ago, but I can still muddle my way through to some extent. If I didn't have to spend so much time working (yuck) I would devote that time to languages. Thanks for the good advice Knight! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IcePrincessKRS Posted July 17, 2007 Share Posted July 17, 2007 [quote name='Didymus' post='1330725' date='Jul 16 2007, 11:43 AM']it also intrigued me that he mentioned Marilyn Manson's name particularly. you gotta be one pretty jacked up public figure to be brought up in an interview with a vatican exorcist...[/quote] I would imagine that thats because he is a well known self-proclaimed Satanist. Its creepy, actually; I read part of a (very long) book review on a book he wrote (or co-authored) and some of his quotes... *shudder* His take isn't that he worships the devil, but that he worships himself, that he is God, he is Satan, he is the Anti-Christ. I'm not surprised that Father Amorth would single him out as a prime example of depravity and whatnot. (I didn't actually read the whole article, so I'm not sure in what context he mentions him, but given Manson himself... it still doesn't come as a surprise to me.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightofChrist Posted July 17, 2007 Author Share Posted July 17, 2007 [quote name='Laudate_Dominum' post='1331933' date='Jul 17 2007, 12:29 AM']The height of my Italian speaking skills passed about seven years ago, but I can still muddle my way through to some extent. If I didn't have to spend so much time working (yuck) I would devote that time to languages. Thanks for the good advice Knight![/quote] I will continue to search for some kind of contact to Father Amorth, if I find one I will forward it to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misereremi Posted July 17, 2007 Share Posted July 17, 2007 Maybe I can help, too? Oh, and I found a link to the original 30 giorni article in Italian. [url="http://www.30giorni.it/it/articolo.asp?id=2564"]http://www.30giorni.it/it/articolo.asp?id=2564[/url] Did you want my translation? L'Italiano lo parlo abbastanza bene, posso anche parlare in Romanaccio. However, I'm working out of town most days ths week , could get onto it later... KofC if you find a way to link him, I've always wanted Padre Amorth's autograph Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misereremi Posted July 17, 2007 Share Posted July 17, 2007 [quote name='Laudate_Dominum' post='1331829' date='Jul 17 2007, 06:45 AM']I have a slightly different translation of that, for example. Mine: [/quote] I just checked that paragraph you provided against the Italian...it fits. "AMORTH: Il Concilio Vaticano II aveva chiesto di rivedere alcuni testi. Disobbedendo a quel comando, si è voluto invece rifarli completamente. Senza pensare che si potevano anche peggiorare le cose anziché migliorarle. E tanti riti sono stati peggiorati per questa mania di voler buttare via tutto quello che c’era nel passato e rifare tutto daccapo, come se la Chiesa fino ad oggi ci avesse sempre imbrogliato e ingannato, e solo adesso fosse finalmente arrivato il tempo dei grandi geni, dei superteologi, dei superbiblisti, dei superliturgisti che sanno dare alla Chiesa le cose giuste. Una menzogna: l’ultimo Concilio aveva semplicemente chiesto di rivederli quei testi, non di distruggerli. Il Rituale esorcistico, per esempio: andava corretto, non rifatto. C’erano preghiere che hanno dodici secoli di esperienza. Prima di cancellare preghiere così antiche e che per secoli si sono dimostrate efficaci, bisognerebbe pensarci a lungo. E invece no. Tutti noi esorcisti, utilizzando per prova le preghiere del nuovo Rituale ad interim, abbiamo sperimentato che sono assolutamente inefficaci. Ma anche il rito del battesimo dei bambini è stato peggiorato." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Socrates Posted July 18, 2007 Share Posted July 18, 2007 Just thought I'd note that I'd take anything published in [i]30 Giorni[/i] with a grain of salt. Haven't read it in many years, but that rag had some really weird stuff in it. Definitely a mixed bag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_wannabe Posted July 19, 2007 Share Posted July 19, 2007 were the two poems "WHAT SATAN FEARS MOST" and "WHO CARRIES HIS BUSINESS ON?" written by fr amorth too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightofChrist Posted July 19, 2007 Author Share Posted July 19, 2007 (edited) [quote name='saint_wannabe' post='1334207' date='Jul 18 2007, 07:28 PM']were the two poems "WHAT SATAN FEARS MOST" and "WHO CARRIES HIS BUSINESS ON?" written by fr amorth too?[/quote] Oh no, they were something I thought would go with the article... I heard Bishop Fulton Sheen speak them... thought it good to post them.. Edited July 19, 2007 by KnightofChrist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightofChrist Posted July 19, 2007 Author Share Posted July 19, 2007 (edited) [quote name='Socrates' post='1333024' date='Jul 17 2007, 08:51 PM']Just thought I'd note that I'd take anything published in [i]30 Giorni[/i] with a grain of salt. Haven't read it in many years, but that rag had some really weird stuff in it. Definitely a mixed bag.[/quote] Well that is not good no, but the things said seem to check out... hey even Art Bell will have a real guess once and a full moon. Ha! Edited July 19, 2007 by KnightofChrist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 [quote name='Didymus' post='1330725' date='Jul 16 2007, 10:43 AM']it also intrigued me that he mentioned Marilyn Manson's name particularly. you gotta be one pretty jacked up public figure to be brought up in an interview with a vatican exorcist...[/quote] lol right ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paladin D Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 Articles like this further show that there is a ton more to be done. It's overwhelming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 Society would do well to listen to Fr. Amorth. He's quite radical in his views, and this is necessary. I don't go quite as far in his evaluation of music and books, but that doesn't mean I disagree with a single thing he says. Sometimes he's a bit harsh with bishops too, but on the other hand, maybe he's someone with the experience to actually talk to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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