Should We Use Drugs To Help With Adhd And Other Learning Disabilities

[GodChaser]

This is going to be my major Christian Witness to all of you. I have stated before I do not want any glory, but I have to talk about my life before and after I started my walk with God.

While I was listening to the Alex Jones show, a Grand Father called up, and his grand son talked about being put on the newest fad drug for children with ADHD. Alex made an excellent point. Any boy is naturally more energetic than a girl, is more phyisically expressive, and our society, especially right now, wants to curb such 'bad' behaviour.

I couldn't help but think of my life while I was listening. I was a very energetic, artistic, imaginative young child, and added onto that I have a short term memory disability, and people naturally assumed I had ADHD. I was diagnosed at the age of 5 for Attention Deficit Hyperactive Disorder. ADHD is a permanent condition that is all about the part of the mind that has inhibitions is lacking proper development. It would be extremely difficult to 'cure' ADHD with any known means. I want you to remember this, because you're ADHD for life, and there is nothing wrong with that either, it's just the way God created you! My mother bought into all the propoganda that I needed Ritilan, which tasted like poison, and would always make me feel so numb and lackluster. I hated it, and I would always use ways not to take it, like holding it under my tongue, which always left a horrible taste in my mouth, drink water down, and then spit it out later.

I grew up with nicknames like Sped, and Special which always made me angry. So angry I wanted to prove them all wrong because I was smart or smarter than they were.

Many times during adolesence, I was tempted to commit sucide, to end the pain of my life. I didn't go to school, and I just wasted my life with fantasies.

Then my Grandfather died.

I went back to secondary school and graduated. It was during that time God brought me an old friend of mine who witnessed to me about Jesus Christ, and It was his church that I gave my life to Jesus Christ, my Lord, God, Saviour, and Redeemer on February 8th, 1998!

That was such an awesome time.

The next few years were rocky at first, because I was trying to learn all about the will of God in my life.

Then one day, in 2002, I prayed, "God I want to write, help people and show your glory,"

The still small voice told me to write for Newspapers.

I did what every child of God does when his father tells him to do something, I immediately started to think about what to do about this, and I applied to College to take Print Journalism.

During this time, I had some difficulties during the first year, due to my disability. But, God was working his plans for me to learn more about the corruption of men, and now I see it more and more evidently.

I started to go to the resource office at my college for help, and there I would eventually get my psycho-educational assessemnt by a qualified psychologist. I found something out, and I want every single other young man or young woman who was diagonsed with ADHD to get tested as well, I didn't have ADHD at all, and that I was just an escentric, absent minded artisitic and unique individual.

The NWO wants to label and pump you filled with drugs! They want to poison you into believing we are insignificant, worthless, broken so they can break humanity with their drugs that poison us!

Glory to God and Power to the resistance.

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So the debate is, can Doctor's really diagose stuff correctly, and should we follow their advice when it comes to our children?

Edited July 15, 2007 by GodChaser

[cmotherofpirl]

My son is artistic, excentric and unique. He also has ADD. Medication means he can function an almost normal life. Maybe you were misdiagnosed, but that doesn't mean everybody was.

[GodChaser]

[quote name='cmotherofpirl' post='1328900' date='Jul 14 2007, 10:01 PM']My son is artistic, excentric and unique. He also has ADD. Medication means he can function an almost normal life. Maybe you were misdiagnosed, but that doesn't mean everybody was.[/quote]

I didn't say everybody was misdiagnosed, but if one person can be misdiagnosed, how many more are being, and how many are being dilberertly diagnosed as having ADHD.

And the drugs you put you on now can be very toxic.

Honestly, if I have children and one is diagonsed with ADHD, I would take my child to another person for a second opinion.

[stlmom]

My youngest son has ADHD, although not a severe case of it. He also had a related memory and language impairment that made it difficult for him to do things like write term papers or do word problems and higher level math. Medication would help the attention difficulties but not do much about the rest. There is no single magic answer to helping a kid with ADHD. School is usually the hardest place to function with ADD/ADHD, and many young people actually do better once they are in the work force. We have a long way to go in our educational systems, both public and parochial in learning to keep these kids from getting discouraged and dropping out of school. Our son did graduate--he was less discouraged than other kids in similar circumstances because he had friends and was strong in sports and music--which gave him impetus to stay in school.

Yes, boys do learn differently than girls, and are usually a year or two behind girls of the same age in terms of behavioral maturation. Is this news to the parents out there?

[GodChaser]

[quote name='stlmom' post='1328927' date='Jul 14 2007, 10:22 PM']My youngest son has ADHD, although not a severe case of it. He also had a related memory and language impairment that made it difficult for him to do things like write term papers or do word problems and higher level math. Medication would help the attention difficulties but not do much about the rest. There is no single magic answer to helping a kid with ADHD. School is usually the hardest place to function with ADD/ADHD, and many young people actually do better once they are in the work force. We have a long way to go in our educational systems, both public and parochial in learning to keep these kids from getting discouraged and dropping out of school. Our son did graduate--he was less discouraged than other kids in similar circumstances because he had friends and was strong in sports and music--which gave him impetus to stay in school.

Yes, boys do learn differently than girls, and are usually a year or two behind girls of the same age in terms of behavioral maturation. Is this news to the parents out there?[/quote]

The thing is the amount of children who are diagnosed and put on ritilin goes up every year.

[url="http://www.wsws.org/news/1998/nov1998/rit-n04.shtml"]What is behind the alarming increase in Ritalin use among US children[/url]

[url="http://www.adhdfraud.org/commentary/100604-1.htm"]ADHD drug spending surges 369 Per cent in Children Under 5[/url]

[url="http://www.epa.gov/envirohealth/children/emerging_issues/adhd.htm"]Attention-Deficit / Hyperactivity Disorder[/url]

[url="http://www.myomancy.com/2005/09/adhd_meds_cost_.html"]ADHD Meds Cost and Usage Increase[/url]

[url="http://www.sntp.net/ritalin/ritalin_breggin.htm"]Suppressing The Passion of Children[/url] - an excellent read. I definitely recommend parents reading this one. Oh man, was I ever on the right path on this.

I am more than just a causual person with a learning disability. Much of my time in College was exploring stories about people with Learning Disabilities and conditions like ADHD, to the displeasure of some of my professors.

Plus, in the spirit, I think this is just passing the buck. The doctor says the child is ADD/ADHD and then puts them on drugs, which are probably toxic to the child's system. I don't like this kind of system, because it also teaches the child, if something is wrong, take a drug for it. So when a friend says, he if you're having a bad day, smoke some weed, or do some acid man, or snort some Cocaine.

A good article to read about this topic [url="http://www.adhd-report.com/biopsychiatry/bio_19.html"]Biopsychiatry Illuminated[/url]

I would never consider a child to be deficient in anything. And the fact Deficit means to be deficient, means I am saying God didn't make my child right. Three hundred years ago, people didn't pump our children with drugs if they were too active. So why now?

Because we have made a society that discourages that behaviour. Time to change the society for the sakes of the children people!

Edited July 15, 2007 by GodChaser

[GodChaser]

Written by a concerned Doctor

[quote name='Peter Breggin' date=' M.D.']It seems to have escaped Ritalin advocates that long-term use tends to create the very same problems that Ritalin is supposed to combat - attentional disturbances" and "memory problems" as well as "irritability" and hyperactivity." When children are prescribed Ritalin for years because they continue to have problems focusing their attention, the disorder itself may be due to the Ritalin. A vicious circle is generated, with drug-induced inattention causing the doctor to prescribe more medication, all the while blaming the problem on a defect within the child.

As Ritalin treatment is continued, its calming or subduing effects can diminish, requiring increased medication. It can become more and more difficult to prevent rebound hyperactivity, talkativeness, and other signs of euphoria. [The 1990 PDR has a special box on "Drug Dependence" for Ritalin, including warnings that drug withdrawal can be accompanied by "severe depression" and hyperactivity.] This drug rebound effect is easily confused with the child's original hyperactivity, again causing the doctor to mistakenly continue or to increase the medication. We have seen similar patterns with the use of neuroleptics, minor tranquilizers, and antidepressants.

As with any addictive drug, withdrawal from psychostimulants, even in routine use, can be very difficult. Again we are educated by the official DSM-III-R, which has a special category for withdrawal reactions caused by amphetamine and amphetaminelike drugs, including cocaine and Ritalin. After "several days or longer" of medication, withdrawal from the drug can produce depression, anxiety, and irritability as well as sleep problems, fatigue, and agitation. The individual may become suicidal in response to the depression. Again, no distinction is made between children and adults.[/quote]

Stop drugging our children. These paragraphs make me wonder if I ever had a memory disability to start out with, or was it the Ritalin?

[R4id3n]

well let me give you my insight i have ADD and ADHD i was on ritalin for a few years it kind of supresses for a temporary time people who have that so they can concentrate on things like school. i took this in my elementary years. then my parents put a stop because if you notice i temporary as soon as the effects where off i was literally bouncing off the walls. its a thing it could work for a while ,but its better to let them get off the perscription and try and coach then with out medication. I've been off it since 4 or 5th grade and im in college. its just a matter of focusing and pushing yourself or having some one pushing you to do your best.

[Tufsoles]

I have add and they also told me I would not get far in life. But the true is oppoiste, I am in my final sesemster of college and I have a near perfect 4.0. I already have one degree( which is an accomplishment in itself.) I have the best job in the world. and that is only the skim of the milk.

[Tufsoles]

[quote name='Tufsoles' post='1329870' date='Jul 15 2007, 05:06 PM']I have add and they also told me I would not get far in life. But the true is oppoiste, I am in my final sesemster of college and I have a near perfect 4.0. I already have one degree( which is an accomplishment in itself.) I have the best job in the world. and that is only the skim of the milk.[/quote]

[jeffpugh]

The first bit of your original post reminded me about what was said in the book [i]Wild at Heart[/i] by John Eldredge. Really good book, really biblical and such. Anywho it basically says that guys are really energetic. We can't help it because it's in our nature. God created man before placing him in the Garden. Therefore, we were born out of rugged dust. We are people who enjoy going out and running around, adventuring, and eating tacos, so very tasty and good for you, (easy to take on the go). Anywho, I am not a 'believer' of some modern medicines, but I look toward natural alternatives. It's good stuff made by God, and not chemicals generated in some lab somewhere. That's a whole other debate though.

Anywho, the thing is, people should not be pushed pills or abandoned because they are 'labeled' with some 'disorder'. Everyone has potential.

Edited July 15, 2007 by Sacred Music Man

[Akalyte]

I was born with Fetal Alcohol syndrome, and I also have a memory problem. just ask the guys I work with. It also explains why i'm not very good at debating because i have a hard time remembering the stuff I study.

[Akalyte]

i dont take any medicine, i just pray about it all the time.

[Megz]

My cousin is an AWESOME musician at the age of 12 can play guitar better than most adults. He's also a composer of lyrics and music. However, he's also ADD and failing school. He was put on medicine for this and his grades improved dramatically, he was really proud of himself but he wasn't able to be as creative. He continued his guitar lessons and then one day his music teacher at school told his mom to let him fail at school and develop his talent. Well he is *barley* not repeating a grade but he's happy.

As someone with ADD myself I really think that medicine can be a necessary evil. I wish those without ADD knew how hard it is to do simple tasks or to learn with ADD impairment. Especially driving. Maybe 100 years ago ADD could be kept in check by a good day's work on the farm, but today the world moves at too fast a pace for those with ADD to keep up. I will probably take medication when I'm in graduate school, I need good grades. I do my darnedest in class, have tutors, but with ADD I've been told more than once that I'm an A level student doing B level work simply because I don't have the attention span.