Do You Pray In Latin?

[Fidei Defensor]

[quote name='cmotherofpirl' post='1306418' date='Jun 30 2007, 06:42 AM']I don't assist I [participate

I see no point in praying in latin if I can pray in english. However I do sing in latin.[/quote]
Just as an observational note, you're comments always come off as condescending to me. You might want to watch that

[Lil Red]

[quote name='fidei defensor' post='1306482' date='Jun 30 2007, 09:03 AM']Just as an observational note, you're comments always come off as condescending to me. You might want to watch that [/quote]
not to me maybe it's just the tone you are reading into her comments. veritas and i were discussing that the other day, how we put our own 'spin' on someone else's comments.

[Archaeology cat]

[quote name='Pio Nono' post='1306477' date='Jun 30 2007, 03:50 PM']JMJ
6/30 - First Martyrs of the Roman Church

I pretty much enjoy praying in any language EXCEPT English. And German. They're ugly languages.

I pray my breviary in Spanish and my Rosary in Italian. I enjoy Mass in Latin, and I pray the "Anima Christi" in Latin after receiving communion.[/quote]

German isn't ugly. Or maybe it's just that I only know more guttural languages. I generally pray in English, but sometimes in German or a few words in Hebrew.

[homeschoolmom]

[quote name='fidei defensor' post='1306482' date='Jun 30 2007, 11:03 AM']Just as an observational note, you're comments always come off as condescending to me. You might want to watch that [/quote]
Are you familiar with the private message feature?

[saint_wannabe]

i dont see the point, God understands it just as good as English right?

question: does anyone know when demons are being exorcised they start talking in Latin?

[Archaeology cat]

[quote name='saint_wannabe' post='1306489' date='Jun 30 2007, 04:12 PM']i dont see the point, God understands it just as good as English right?

question: does anyone know when demons are being exorcised they start talking in Latin?[/quote]

Oh yes, God understands us regardless of the language. But some find Latin to be more beautiful or expressive. Every language has its limitations, and we may find another language more adequately expresses what we are praying. So if I use Hebrew when praying, it is because the Hebrew word is more expressive, or more closely matches, what I'm trying to say, or because I find that expression to be more beautiful in Hebrew. I'm assuming (someone correct me if I'm wrong) that that is at least part of the reason of why some choose to pray in Latin. I hope that makes sense.

[Resurrexi]

[quote]I don't assist I [participate smile.gif

I see no point in praying in latin if I can pray in english. However I do sing in latin.[/quote]

[quote][b]Baltimore Catechism No. 3:[/b]
Q. 946. How should we assist at Mass?
A. We should assist at Mass with great interior recollection and piety and with every outward mark of respect and devotion.
http://www.catholic.net/Catholic Church/Catechism/3/l24.html#RTFToC2[/quote]

The point of praying in Latin is that you are praying in the sacred tongue of the Roman Church and that you are not praying a translation of the prayer, but the original. Oftentimes prayers are not translated in the best manner possible. Being a Latin student, I find it extremely difficult to pray in English because I usually pray from my Missal or from the [i]Raccolta[/i] both of which usually have the Latin and English for the prayer. Because they have both the Latin and English I compare the versions and often find translation mistakes or words not translated the way I would translate them, which makes me dislike the translation so I just pray the prayer in Latin. I don't pray in my own words either so unless I'm praying in a group with others who don't know Latin I have no use for the vernacular.

[homeschoolmom]

Some of us actually pray from the heart and just make it up as we go along... no need for Latin then.

[Era Might]

[quote name='Pio Nono' post='1306477' date='Jun 30 2007, 10:50 AM']I pretty much enjoy praying in any language EXCEPT English. And German. They're ugly languages.[/quote]
WHA WHA WHAAAAAAAT?????

I won't argue about German, but English is a not ugly at all. It is quite beautiful, especially written.

[quote]The English language befriends the grand American expression ... it is brawny enough and limber and full enough ... on the tough stock of a race who through all change of circumstance was never without the idea of political liberty, which is the animus of all liberty, it has attracted the terms of daintier and gayer and subtler and more elegant tongues. It is the powerful language of resistance ... it is the dialect of common sense. It is the speech of the proud and melancholy races and of all who aspire. It is the chosen tongue to express growth faith self-esteem freedom justice equality friendliness amplitude prudence decision and courage. It is the medium that shall well nigh express the inexpressible.

--Walt Whitman[/quote]
Respect.

[Pio Nono]

JMJ
6/30 - First Martyrs of the Roman Church

I don't see Whitman saying it's beautiful, though. :

[quote]Oh yes, God understands us regardless of the language. But some find Latin to be more beautiful or expressive. Every language has its limitations, and we may find another language more adequately expresses what we are praying. So if I use Hebrew when praying, it is because the Hebrew word is more expressive, or more closely matches, what I'm trying to say, or because I find that expression to be more beautiful in Hebrew. I'm assuming (someone correct me if I'm wrong) that that is at least part of the reason of why some choose to pray in Latin. I hope that makes sense.[/quote]
Right on, brother. This is why I pray my Rosary in Italian rather than Spanish - "Padre nostro, che sei nei cieli" rolls off the tongue much better than "Padre nuestro, que estas in el cielo"; also, "Ave Maria, piena di grazia, il Signore e' con te," rather than "Dios te salve Maria, llena eres de gracia, el Senor es contigo".

[StColette]

Dr. Miravalle would have us pray the Ave Maria before every class, but I no longer have a class with him since I've take almost all the ones he offers.

Now with my French Prof. we pray or prayers in French, I must say the Hail Mary in French is a lot more difficult than it in Latin

[Resurrexi]

[quote name='homeschoolmom' post='1306495' date='Jun 30 2007, 10:27 AM']Some of us actually pray from the heart and just make it up as we go along... no need for Latin then. [/quote]

I always pray memorized prayers from the heart and memorized prayers profit you nothing if you don't pray them from the heart.

Edited June 30, 2007 by StThomasMore

[homeschoolmom]

No doubt. I didn't mean to imply that. What I meant was that, for some people, the prayers they pray are not memorized. Therefore, unless they are fluent in Latin, the vernacular is probably their prayer-language-of-choice. Not to say that a memorized prayer cannot be heartfelt....

[Archaeology cat]

[quote name='Pio Nono' post='1306506' date='Jun 30 2007, 04:35 PM']JMJ
6/30 - First Martyrs of the Roman Church

I don't see Whitman saying it's beautiful, though. :
Right on, brother. This is why I pray my Rosary in Italian rather than Spanish - "Padre nostro, che sei nei cieli" rolls off the tongue much better than "Padre nuestro, que estas in el cielo"; also, "Ave Maria, piena di grazia, il Signore e' con te," rather than "Dios te salve Maria, llena eres de gracia, el Senor es contigo".[/quote]

Thanks. I've heard Italian is a good language like that (my husband is the one who knows the Romance languages, not me). I can see how that would flow a bit better, seeing your comparison there.

[Sojourner]

[quote name='Ash Wednesday' post='1306457' date='Jun 30 2007, 09:15 AM']Now, are you SURE about that? [/quote]



Hmm, maybe that's why I've had so much trouble with unanswered prayers ...