KnightofChrist Posted June 11, 2007 Share Posted June 11, 2007 [quote name='GodChaser' post='1292429' date='Jun 10 2007, 09:28 PM']Thats the nature of the spirit world. What you do now will come back in the future. If you put up greed, someone who is greedy will take it away from you, eventually. If you hate, eventually hate will find you.[/quote] I believe you are close to something, hate is the lack of love, and God is all loving. While on this world if we reject God we can seem to be happy. But if we die in this rejection God will reject us and we will be very unhappy. But for those that suffered and remain with God may not have been "happy" like the other, but they will be happy forever in the presence of God. [quote name='GodChaser' post='1292429' date='Jun 10 2007, 09:28 PM']That is why we need to lay up our treasures in heaven, so that those treasures will come back down on us.[/quote] Again you have something here, while others spend their treasures on earth, we who are in Christ lay up our treasures in heaven as to have them when we go home. We who have been poor will be rich, those that were rich will be poor. [quote name='GodChaser' post='1292429' date='Jun 10 2007, 09:28 PM']And in the end, we get a crown of glory, if we survive to the end.[/quote] Yes [quote name='GodChaser' post='1292429' date='Jun 10 2007, 09:28 PM']That is why a close relationship with the lord matters. You can't coast through the great tribulation. You have to suffer through it, and many will fall away because of it. Especially pre-tribbers.[/quote] We must pick our cross daily, the cross is suffering. Some seeds grow and remain, while others die off, or never grow at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katholikos Posted June 11, 2007 Share Posted June 11, 2007 [quote name='kafka' post='1292239' date='Jun 10 2007, 08:18 PM']no i dont think they ignored it, and I dont agree that is was written primarily for the early Christians[/quote] All Scripture was written for all Christians of every age. That's why the Church copied, preserved, and guarded it through the centuries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kafka Posted June 12, 2007 Share Posted June 12, 2007 [quote name='Katholikos' post='1292960' date='Jun 11 2007, 02:32 PM']All Scripture was written for all Christians of every age. That's why the Church copied, preserved, and guarded it through the centuries.[/quote] Agreed, but I must say the Revelation of John is a bit different than the other books of the Bible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toledo_jesus Posted June 12, 2007 Share Posted June 12, 2007 "Verily, ye know not the day nor the hour. So quit prattling on about it and go to Confession." I think that's in Luke somewhere. In the back. I could be wrong, really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightofChrist Posted June 12, 2007 Share Posted June 12, 2007 [quote name='kafka' post='1293200' date='Jun 11 2007, 07:28 PM']Agreed, but I must say the Revelation of John is a bit different than the other books of the Bible[/quote] Indeed, it is a prophetic book like no other, yet the book of Daniel has the same message. [quote name='toledo_jesus' post='1293386' date='Jun 11 2007, 10:29 PM']"Verily, ye know not the day nor the hour. So quit prattling on about it and go to Confession." I think that's in Luke somewhere. In the back. I could be wrong, really.[/quote] But it isn't foolish to greatly study the book of the Apocalypse and the traditional catholic teaching of the book. So many Catholics understand so very little when it comes to the book. And thats real sad. Part of it seems to be because protestants dwell so much on it, we don't because their views are crazy to us. While the true meaning of the apocalypse is far different than the "left behind" books, the teachings of the Catholic Church do match that of post 14, this should be greatly studied, and every catholic should know the book back to front. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GodChaser Posted June 12, 2007 Author Share Posted June 12, 2007 [quote name='toledo_jesus' post='1293386' date='Jun 11 2007, 10:29 PM']"Verily, ye know not the day nor the hour. So quit prattling on about it and go to Confession." I think that's in Luke somewhere. In the back. I could be wrong, really.[/quote] I'll take that under advisement. Even if Jesus said, you should be aware of the signs so the day doesn't overtake us. I don't know when the day happens, but with the increasing amounts of people working to make a one world government, I can be comfortable to say, the day is near. Those words of Jesus are against people who say, on 7/7/2007 the lord is coming back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sojourner Posted June 12, 2007 Share Posted June 12, 2007 [quote name='GodChaser' post='1293571' date='Jun 12 2007, 09:16 AM']I'll take that under advisement. Even if Jesus said, you should be aware of the signs so the day doesn't overtake us. I don't know when the day happens, but with the increasing amounts of people working to make a one world government, I can be comfortable to say, the day is near. Those words of Jesus are against people who say, on 7/7/2007 the lord is coming back.[/quote] what good does it do to worry about it? You can't change anything about how it's all going to play out. All you can do is work out your salvation with fear and trembling ... gotta say, that provides enough food for thought for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaime Posted June 12, 2007 Share Posted June 12, 2007 Godchaser you definitely seem to be on the right track. And honestly, your time is better spent away from conspiracies and on more fruitful endeavors. I'll offer a suggestion for your consideration. A couple of things I've learned as I've gotten old I'm not the smartest person on the planet I'm not the most spiritual person on the planet. When I came to this startling and humbling conclusion, I realized that I needed to rely on a system or group that were smarter than me more spiritual than me For me that system is the Church and the Magisterium. There are times that I don't fully understand the specifics of their teaching. But I remember the two rules, they're smarter and more spiritual. My responsibility is to trust and to try to learn the intent. I bring this up because you've portrayed yourself as "You and God". Don't get me wrong, trust in God is essential to living. However one of the gifts that God has given us is a need for community. Its community that helps us in our faith and gives us something to rely on in times of need. Obviously, I would recommend the Catholic church. But that is your decision. At any rate, any community that you can apply the two rules to is better than being alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmotherofpirl Posted June 12, 2007 Share Posted June 12, 2007 [quote name='GodChaser' post='1293571' date='Jun 12 2007, 11:16 AM']I'll take that under advisement. Even if Jesus said, you should be aware of the signs so the day doesn't overtake us. I don't know when the day happens, but with the increasing amounts of people working to make a one world government, I can be comfortable to say, the day is near. Those words of Jesus are against people who say, on 7/7/2007 the lord is coming back.[/quote] Since there is no sign of the jews converting "en masse" we are gonna be here for awhile. Jesus really did mean we wouldn't know the day or the hour. Ya know, the Romans thought THEY had a world government as well. Sitting around waiting for Jesus tomorrow is a poor excuse for not changing the world today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kafka Posted June 12, 2007 Share Posted June 12, 2007 [quote name='KnightofChrist' post='1293422' date='Jun 12 2007, 12:00 AM']Indeed, it is a prophetic book like no other, yet the book of Daniel has the same message.[/quote] I definitely agree. There are parallels in Daniel and Revelation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GodChaser Posted June 13, 2007 Author Share Posted June 13, 2007 (edited) [quote name='Terra Firma' post='1293584' date='Jun 12 2007, 09:39 AM']what good does it do to worry about it? You can't change anything about how it's all going to play out. All you can do is work out your salvation with fear and trembling ... gotta say, that provides enough food for thought for me.[/quote] [quote name='Cmom']Since there is no sign of the jews converting "en masse" we are gonna be here for awhile. Jesus really did mean we wouldn't know the day or the hour. Ya know, the Romans thought THEY had a world government as well. Sitting around waiting for Jesus tomorrow is a poor excuse for not changing the world today.[/quote] I'm not worry about it at all. Just standing up for the truth, that's all. There's nothing stopping the juggernaut, but telling the juggernaut you're going to self-destruct is satisfying. And I'm totally with you on the last statement. Part of the Resistance is to stand for the truth and shout it out from the roof tops. Do want people to continue to treat you and everybody like a piece of meat Terra, because that is how many people view you and everybody else. That is why promisquity is so prevelent. It's all good. We here to enjoy each other sexually. That is why abortion is prevelent. It's my body. The next feminist to say that to me, I will say, and that's exactly how I will treat you from now on, a piece of meat, because people will treat you the way you treat yourself. Now, if you want to become a mind, body, and soul Christian, then I will treat you as such. That is the thought of the evolutionist trying to disprove God, we're only pieces of meat. That is what Levay Satanists think, have sex with as many people as possible, because we're all pieces of meat. It's all around us, and it will only get worse. So it is time to stand up against this evil empire that has been created to seduce you to follow after Britney Spears and Paris Hilton. They can piss against a wall, and then lick the dirt off my shoes after I've walked in their piss. Edited June 13, 2007 by GodChaser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GodChaser Posted June 13, 2007 Author Share Posted June 13, 2007 [quote name='hot stuff' post='1293611' date='Jun 12 2007, 10:21 AM']Godchaser you definitely seem to be on the right track. And honestly, your time is better spent away from conspiracies and on more fruitful endeavors. I'll offer a suggestion for your consideration. A couple of things I've learned as I've gotten old I'm not the smartest person on the planet I'm not the most spiritual person on the planet. When I came to this startling and humbling conclusion, I realized that I needed to rely on a system or group that were smarter than me more spiritual than me For me that system is the Church and the Magisterium. There are times that I don't fully understand the specifics of their teaching. But I remember the two rules, they're smarter and more spiritual. My responsibility is to trust and to try to learn the intent. I bring this up because you've portrayed yourself as "You and God". Don't get me wrong, trust in God is essential to living. However one of the gifts that God has given us is a need for community. Its community that helps us in our faith and gives us something to rely on in times of need. Obviously, I would recommend the Catholic church. But that is your decision. At any rate, any community that you can apply the two rules to is better than being alone.[/quote] If I go back to church, it will be to the one I was first planted in, the United Pentecostal Church. They needsome like me to really catch the Youth to start standing against the way our society is turning into a big cesspool of sin and denial of our basic rights and freedoms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toledo_jesus Posted June 13, 2007 Share Posted June 13, 2007 [quote name='GodChaser' post='1293981' date='Jun 12 2007, 09:52 PM']I'm not worry about it at all. Just standing up for the truth, that's all. There's nothing stopping the juggernaut, but telling the juggernaut you're going to self-destruct is satisfying. And I'm totally with you on the last statement. Part of the Resistance is to stand for the truth and shout it out from the roof tops. Do want people to continue to treat you and everybody like a piece of meat Terra, because that is how many people view you and everybody else. That is why promisquity is so prevelent. It's all good. We here to enjoy each other sexually. That is why abortion is prevelent. It's my body. The next feminist to say that to me, I will say, and that's exactly how I will treat you from now on, a piece of meat, because people will treat you the way you treat yourself. Now, if you want to become a mind, body, and soul Christian, then I will treat you as such. That is the thought of the evolutionist trying to disprove God, we're only pieces of meat. That is what Levay Satanists think, have sex with as many people as possible, because we're all pieces of meat. It's all around us, and it will only get worse. So it is time to stand up against this evil empire that has been created to seduce you to follow after Britney Spears and Paris Hilton. They can piss against a wall, and then lick the dirt off my shoes after I've walked in their piss.[/quote] What you need to do is just throttle back and meditate on your own unimportance in the larger scale of things. We're all just dust. God may point us towards great deeds, but it is rather tacky to talk about it. So shhhhhh...the resistance is a quiet one. Raise your kids right and you won't need to get piss on your shoes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightofChrist Posted June 13, 2007 Share Posted June 13, 2007 Christ weeped over wicked Jerusalem, as he does for any sinner. He does not speak hatefully against them, while there is still chance to save their souls. We will be surprised when we enter heaven there will be people we did not expect to see, and some of the ones we assumed we would we will not. Speaking against the culture of sin is good, but we must be Christ-like when we do, meaning speak against it as Christ would speak against it. If we divert from this we do harm instead of good. This shoe thing is a diversion, and a very harsh one. A verbal punch in the face. Some that read this who stand outside in the dark thinking of coming in to the light may turn away for comments like this. Be Christ like, its the only true way to save souls and preach truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GodChaser Posted June 13, 2007 Author Share Posted June 13, 2007 [quote name='KnightofChrist' post='1294381' date='Jun 13 2007, 03:46 AM']Christ weeped over wicked Jerusalem, as he does for any sinner. He does not speak hatefully against them, while there is still chance to save their souls. We will be surprised when we enter heaven there will be people we did not expect to see, and some of the ones we assumed we would we will not. Speaking against the culture of sin is good, but we must be Christ-like when we do, meaning speak against it as Christ would speak against it. If we divert from this we do harm instead of good. This shoe thing is a diversion, and a very harsh one. A verbal punch in the face. Some that read this who stand outside in the dark thinking of coming in to the light may turn away for comments like this. Be Christ like, its the only true way to save souls and preach truth.[/quote] True, I will consider that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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