Aloysius Posted May 19, 2007 Share Posted May 19, 2007 Adjusted to assume the end of schisms, this is my work-in-progress of a map of Christendom Worldwide, the way it is and/or should be. [attachment=2509:Christendom.PNG] My criteria were first: where are the traditional churches and their traditional jurisdictions. Second, when that could no longer be determined because no ancient churches remained, the percentages of Christians in these areas was considered. Mostly I divided things by countries; in a couple places I divided countries based upon locations of ethnicities; for instance, I extended the Armenians into Iran where there was an absence of Chaldeans but a presence of Armenians. I also divided off the soutwestern portion of India to show where the Assyrian Church is. I intend to continue editing the map to divide countries where the borders overlap and a clear-cut line could be drawn through the country itself. It's a work in progress; feel free to help me by editing places you think I divided inaccurately. I always wanted a map like this, but have never found anywhere with such a map. I also attempted to divide it by Sees of the Apostles as much as was possible; even allowing for those who claim their see was started by St. Andrew when history tends to prove otherwise because they were basically formed by a Church which was started by Andrew, and so it feels accurate for me. I ordered the Sees according to the Ancient order of primacy; though I was unsure where the Armenians originally placed into that before they divided from everyone. As part of my principal of adjusting for schism, I included corrupted forms of each church as part of them; ie, protestants counted as "Rome" and so forth, because they came from Rome and if they were to reunited they would clearly be Roman. The sources I consulted in this endeavour were: "Eastern Churches" Catholic Encyclopedia. <http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/05230a.htm>. The CIA World Factbook Wikipedia "The Bishops of Rome, the Popes; the Patriarchs of Constantinople, Jerusalem, Alexandria, Antioch, Armenia, and the East; Archbishops of Canterbury and Prince Archbishops of Mainz, Trier, Cologne, and Salzburg" <http://www.friesian.com/popes.htm>. Another thing I do plan on doing is drawing up some clear divisions within these churches; when they are large enough that it can be done on this map at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
journeyman Posted May 19, 2007 Share Posted May 19, 2007 Oh, to have the time to pursue one's curiousity - did you start with World Christendom as it is? In which areas are Christians (even nominally) a majority of the population. Where is work needed simply for Christians to reach parity with other belief systems. e.g. I suspect Asia, Africa and the MidEast would be shaded differently if the map showed the regions where the faith is still persecuted. I suspect Europe and North America would be shaded differently if "nominal" Christians were excluded. South America might also be different if "trending toward evangelical protestantism" were a category. Pray for vocations! Pray for missions! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resurrexi Posted May 19, 2007 Share Posted May 19, 2007 It said this when I tried to click on the link to the map: Sorry, but you do not have permission to use this feature. If you are not logged in, you may do so using the form below if available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aloysius Posted May 19, 2007 Author Share Posted May 19, 2007 [quote name='journeyman' post='1277405' date='May 19 2007, 01:40 PM']Oh, to have the time to pursue one's curiousity - did you start with World Christendom as it is? In which areas are Christians (even nominally) a majority of the population. Where is work needed simply for Christians to reach parity with other belief systems. e.g. I suspect Asia, Africa and the MidEast would be shaded differently if the map showed the regions where the faith is still persecuted. I suspect Europe and North America would be shaded differently if "nominal" Christians were excluded. South America might also be different if "trending toward evangelical protestantism" were a category. Pray for vocations! Pray for missions![/quote] Some call it time, some call it insomnia. I gave a lot of the Middle East to the See of Antioch, where it belongs. Otherwise, the idea is not "where do Christians form a majority" but "Where does each Church have majority jurisdiction". There are no Churches in Saudi Arabia, for instance, but I'd still place them under the jurisdiction of Antioch. If another Church, like Rome, were to succeed in re-establishing Christianity there, though, it'd be placed under them based on my criteria. I thought about putting some more of North Africa under the See of Alexandria, but after they ceased to be a majority in those parts the Roman Church has since become the larger presence and jurisdiction there. also, I was adjusting for schism so trends towards protestantism do not change South America, protestantism is defective Rome; but the See of Rome still would have jursidiction there. There is no Protestant See that could hold jurisdiction; except maybe Canturbury if they were to end their schism. This is the division of Christendom, not of world religions et cetera. Europe could all go secular or pagan, but the Roman Church would still have jurisdiction over it. Only if Europe formed Nationalist Orthodox Churches would it change on this map, get the idea? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resurrexi Posted May 19, 2007 Share Posted May 19, 2007 Yeah... is there any way I'd be able to see this map...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aloysius Posted May 19, 2007 Author Share Posted May 19, 2007 I'll email it to you if you like. I don't know why it won't work for you; must've been something with the way dUSt toggled with allowances for the "Seperated Brethren" group. can everyone else see it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resurrexi Posted May 20, 2007 Share Posted May 20, 2007 [quote name='Aloysius' post='1277808' date='May 19 2007, 06:48 PM']I'll email it to you if you like. I don't know why it won't work for you; must've been something with the way dUSt toggled with allowances for the "Seperated Brethren" group. can everyone else see it?[/quote] That'd be great if you could... my email's MedievalCatholic@gmail.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aloysius Posted May 20, 2007 Author Share Posted May 20, 2007 I think I'd like to start pulling together a sort of Atlas of Christendom, with detailed maps of Church boundaries and descriptions of where they're disputed and stuff, as well as information about all these churches. This is by far the coolest source showing the various claimants to the patriarchates through history, side by side. [url="http://www.friesian.com/popes.htm"]http://www.friesian.com/popes.htm[/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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