Anna Posted January 30, 2004 Share Posted January 30, 2004 (edited) Now that parts of Europe have embraced euthanasia, it seems anything goes...http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/apeurope_story.asp?category=1103&slug=Germany%20Cannibal%20Trial Friday, January 30, 2004 · Last updated 9:03 a.m. PT German cannibal gets prison sentence By FRANK LETH ASSOCIATED PRESS WRITER KASSEL, Germany -- A German was convicted of manslaughter and sentenced to 8 1/2 years in prison Friday for killing, dismembering and eating another man who allegedly agreed to the arrangement over the Internet. Armin Meiwes, a 42-year-old computer expert, had no "base motives" in the crime, a state court ruled, sparing him a murder conviction. Explaining the verdict, the presiding judge said Meiwes' intention was not evil but "the fulfillment of his fantasy." His primary motive was "the wish to make another man part of himself," Judge Volker Muetze said. "Meiwes reached this bonding experience through the consumption of the flesh." Prosecutors had sought a life sentence, calling Meiwes a "human butcher" who acted simply to "satisfy a sexual impulse." They said they would appeal. The defense argued that since the victim volunteered to be killed and eaten, the crime should be classified a mercy killing, which carries a five-year maximum penalty. Before the verdict, Meiwes looked calm, chatting with his attorney and occasionally grinning for cameras allowed inside the courtroom. After the sentence was read, he shook his lawyer's hand and nodded curtly to the photographers. When his trial opened Dec. 3 in the central city of Kassel, Meiwes confessed in detail to killing Bernd Juergen Brandes, 43, in March 2001 at Meiwes' home in the town of Rotenburg. Brandes traveled from Berlin in reply to an Internet advertisement seeking a young man for "slaughter and consumption." Meiwes testified that Brandes wanted to be stabbed to death after drinking a bottle of cold medicine to lose consciousness. "Bernd came to me of his own free will to end his life," Meiwes said in his closing statement in court Monday. "For him, it was a nice death." Still, he said he regretted the killing. "I had my big kick and I don't need to do it again," he said. "I regret it all very much, but I can't undo it." A video he made of the act was shown to the court during a closed session. A doctor testified that Brandes died from loss of blood and that the medication, along with a half-bottle of liquor and 20 sleeping pills he took beforehand, could not have lessened his pain. Several experts have testified that Meiwes was fit to stand trial and was not mentally ill. Police tracked down and arrested him in December 2002 after a student in Austria alerted them to a message Meiwes had posted on the Internet. "If I hadn't been so stupid as to keep looking on the Internet, I would have taken my secret to the grave," Meiwes said in his closing statement. Edited January 30, 2004 by Anna Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
traichuoi Posted January 30, 2004 Share Posted January 30, 2004 gasp he put out an ad? crazy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna Posted January 30, 2004 Author Share Posted January 30, 2004 What's even crazier is that he had over 200 people respond and volunteer! And even crazier, he only gets 8 1/2 years in prison! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
traichuoi Posted January 30, 2004 Share Posted January 30, 2004 "If I hadn't been so stupid as to keep looking on the Internet, I would have taken my secret to the grave," Meiwes said in his closing statement. i didn't understand this last statement... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellenita Posted January 30, 2004 Share Posted January 30, 2004 It was reported earlier in the case that he was looking for another person on the internet after he had killed the first person.....though he is now reported as saying that he wouldn't do it again. The most worrying thing for me is that doctors have not found him mentally ill - how do you process the information that someone perfectly sane wanted to do this? And how disturbed are those people who responded to the add? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hopeful1 Posted January 30, 2004 Share Posted January 30, 2004 It was reported earlier in the case that he was looking for another person on the internet after he had killed the first person.....though he is now reported as saying that he wouldn't do it again. The most worrying thing for me is that doctors have not found him mentally ill - how do you process the information that someone perfectly sane wanted to do this? And how disturbed are those people who responded to the add? ok, THEY NEED TO PUT AWAY PEOPLE LIKE THIS!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
traichuoi Posted January 30, 2004 Share Posted January 30, 2004 longer than 8.5 years though! they should also feed him alot of meat while in prison so he develops a distaste for it...maybe that could be part of counseling... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellenita Posted January 30, 2004 Share Posted January 30, 2004 (edited) hopeful1, you don't mean me do you? (I hope! ) Edited January 30, 2004 by Ellenita Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted January 30, 2004 Share Posted January 30, 2004 So I assume you are all more than willing to pay to keep these people in prison. What about rehabilitation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna Posted January 30, 2004 Author Share Posted January 30, 2004 Yep, I would pay to keep a nut like that in a cage! I mean, after all...he EATS PEOPLE!!!! Hello????? Rehab? Take two alka selzter, and call me in the morning?! Of course, I'm saying all of this stuff tongue in cheek. (My own tongue, of course!!!) Pax Christi. <>< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna Posted January 30, 2004 Author Share Posted January 30, 2004 And how disturbed are those people who responded to the add? Not only did over 200 respond, desiring to be killen and then eaten, but others also responded saying that they had either fantasized about or had already done the same thing, and still others responded stating that they would like to watch it take place. There are a lot of very disturbed people wandering around out there... Do you think it a coincidence that this man's neighbor is a professed satan worshipper? "....self-avowed Satanist Ulla von Bernus who claimed to "cast death spells with 90% reliability." http://www.4law.co.il/cann1c.htm. It's all too weird. It's just plain evil. Pax Christi. <>< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sojourner Posted January 30, 2004 Share Posted January 30, 2004 Yeah, I've been reading about this case for a while -- sick sick stuff, that's for sure. But given the nature of the testimony -- that the victim was willing and even eager for this to happen -- I'm not entirely surprised to see the sentence at only 8.5 years. The depth of the depravity we are capable of is positively frightening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilroy the Ninja Posted January 30, 2004 Share Posted January 30, 2004 ok this guy is sick. my only question is this.... How does one develop a distaste for meat if you eat it all the time? What if you really like it? Ok, that's all... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IcePrincessKRS Posted January 30, 2004 Share Posted January 30, 2004 I'm guessing the thinking behind that is if you are forced to eat large quantities of something at a time, eventually you will get sick of it and not eat it anymore. When I was pregnant for the first few months all I ate was a prepared food made from milk curdled by the action of cultures and bagels mainly, and right now I still have to force myself to eat them. I just can't enjoy it like I used to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyperdulia again Posted January 30, 2004 Share Posted January 30, 2004 am i the only one brave enough to admit they laughed...yup..i laughed...i'm still chuckling a bit..my mamma laughed when i sent her the link to this topic...maybe it's just us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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