cathoholic_anonymous Posted May 4, 2007 Share Posted May 4, 2007 Last year I was able to meet a bunch of CFR friars, but as yet there are no sisters in England. Could someone tell me more about them? Their website seems quite out of date in places and it doesn't give all that much information. (Don't worry, Annie - I'm not abandoning the Carmelite boat! I'm just curious about the Capuchin charism, as it's not something I know much about.) Gratitude in advance! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EJames Posted May 4, 2007 Share Posted May 4, 2007 [quote name='Cathoholic Anonymous' post='1264056' date='May 4 2007, 01:49 AM']Last year I was able to meet a bunch of CFR friars, but as yet there are no sisters in England. Could someone tell me more about them? Their website seems quite out of date in places and it doesn't give all that much information. (Don't worry, Annie - I'm not abandoning the Carmelite boat! I'm just curious about the Capuchin charism, as it's not something I know much about.) Gratitude in advance![/quote] have you seen there website? [url="http://www.franciscansisterscfr.com/"]http://www.franciscansisterscfr.com/[/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EJames Posted May 4, 2007 Share Posted May 4, 2007 [quote name='EJames' post='1264477' date='May 4 2007, 12:41 PM']have you seen there website? they rae bsically the same as the Friars in life and charism ..,active Franciscan Sisters, with a strong prayerlife. [url="http://www.franciscansisterscfr.com/"]http://www.franciscansisterscfr.com/[/url][/quote] Plus the -Capuchin Sisters in USA [url="http://ejvideo-place.blogspot.com/2007/02/capuchin-franciscan-sisters-of-nazareth.html"]http://ejvideo-place.blogspot.com/2007/02/...f-nazareth.html[/url] [url="http://www.penitents.org/capuchinsisters.html"]http://www.penitents.org/capuchinsisters.html[/url] The Capuchins as a reform of Franciscan Observants, was based on Contemplative, a return to eremetical life, extreme poverty, radical preaching of penance and repentance..the founder(s) lived in hermitages, and went out preaching... [url="http://www.capdox.com/page5.html"]http://www.capdox.com/page5.html[/url] [url="http://www.capdox.com/page3.html"]http://www.capdox.com/page3.html[/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cathoholic_anonymous Posted May 4, 2007 Author Share Posted May 4, 2007 Thank you for the info, EJames. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veritas Posted May 6, 2007 Share Posted May 6, 2007 + They are hard-core. I have a friend entering in the fall, and another, who spent three years there. They take their vow of poverty very seriously. Awesome sisters! They are receiving a lot of vocations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ora et Labora Posted May 7, 2007 Share Posted May 7, 2007 [quote name='Cathoholic Anonymous' post='1264056' date='May 4 2007, 05:49 AM']Last year I was able to meet a bunch of CFR friars, but as yet there are no sisters in England. Could someone tell me more about them? Their website seems quite out of date in places and it doesn't give all that much information. (Don't worry, Annie - I'm not abandoning the Carmelite boat! I'm just curious about the Capuchin charism, as it's not something I know much about.) Gratitude in advance![/quote] why are they fransiscans and capuchins?? what does capuchin mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EJames Posted May 7, 2007 Share Posted May 7, 2007 (edited) [quote name='Ora et Labora' post='1266528' date='May 6 2007, 07:39 PM']why are they fransiscans and capuchins?? what does capuchin mean?[/quote] a transliteration on Scapuccini (capuchini), or capuche, referring to the hood of the habit, which with the capuchin Reform had a long point, so that being outstanding the Italians called them Capuchini, in reference to there long hoods. Franciscans is the general term for those who PROFESS to follow Saint Francesco of Assisi as he followed our Lord. within the Franciscan family there have been numerous reforms/renewal, each one taking on a name, or bieng given a name more precisely, that sets that renewal movement apart, in this case capuchins., groups like the CFRs returned to a more authentic Interpretation of the later Capuchin Constitutions, and Papal Interpretations... though they did not go all the way back to its Original Reform Ideal, like the F.P.O. s and Frat. Min. Rinn. who would be a bit more close to that. - "Across the centuries the Franciscan charism has been preserved in various branches of the Order, with the First Order of friars continuing today in the Observants, Conventuals and the Capuchins. By the sixteenth century the Friars Minor(Franciscans) had grown into a large, complex institution. Friars seeking a more simple(poor) lifestyle were gradually formed into a distinct branch of the Order became known as the Capuchins. The first Capuchins were attracted to contemplative prayer in hermitages, which they combined with itinerant preaching. On 3 July 1528 Pope Clement VII gave them the Bull "Religionis zelus", with permission to live the Franciscan Rule according to the most strict observance, to live in hermitages, grow a long beard, wear a narrow habit with a pointed capuche, preach to the people and accept novices.and eventually all there friaries [b]outside cities,[/b] remaining the property of the benefactors; ------------- Matteo da Bascio (+ 1552) was a priest and preacher of the Franciscan Observant province of the Marches of Ancona. His earnest desire was to be able to live the Franciscan Rule according to the most strict observance. In 1525 he left his friary at Montefalcone and went to Rome and asked permission from Clement VII (1523-1534) to be able to carry out his wish, and to wear a habit with a pointed capuche according to the model St. Francis himself had shown him in a vision. Matteo was protected by the Duchess of Camerino, Caterina Cibo, who was a niece of the Pope. During the Provincial Chapter in Jesi, Giovanni da Fano, Minister Provincial, ordered Matteo to go to the friary of Fano, where he placed him under guard, until the Duchess of Camerino demanded his freedom. Soon other Brothers went to join him. Ludovico and Raffaele da Fossombrone asked the Minister Provincial to let them live in a hermitage with Matteo. The Minister refused. Therefore these brothers found refuge in the Conventual friary of Cingoli. When Paolo da Chioggia joined the group, they began to live in Fossombrone, under the protection of the Duchess of Camerino and the obedience of the Friars Minor Conventuals. In 1529 a set of new Constitutions were formed, called the Constitutions of Albacina. This legislation prescribed two hours of meditation daily; the divine office at night; penitential practices in food accompanied with begging for the daily needs of the friars; one habit with a short mantle for the sick and aged; no procurators;all there friaries outside cities, remaining the property of the benefactors; poor churches; itinerant preaching without remuneration; few books. When the first friars went to preach in Camerino in 1534, the locals called them "Scapuccini" and "Romiti". They soon became known as Friars Minor Capuchins." Edited May 7, 2007 by EJames Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ora et Labora Posted May 7, 2007 Share Posted May 7, 2007 oh cool!! thank you! : Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cathoholic_anonymous Posted May 7, 2007 Author Share Posted May 7, 2007 As an interesting aside, a type of coffee was named [i]cappucino[/i] after the colour of the friars' hoods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ora et Labora Posted May 7, 2007 Share Posted May 7, 2007 ooh! haha! i never thought of that. so, are there any other branches of Franciscans? I know about the ones in Alabama though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the lords sheep Posted May 7, 2007 Share Posted May 7, 2007 The CFR Sisters are awesome. They are still a very small community (their 4th Sister just made final vows... counting the postulants there are 19 in total). They are not identical to the CFR Friars, but they are a parallel community, meaning they have very similar prayer life, apostalates, and constitutions. Their founder is Fr. Andrew Apostoli, one of the founders of the CFR Friars. They do a lot of different ministries, and aid the friars in their ministry to the poor and on the parish missions. They joke that their fourth knot on their cord around their waist is for flexibility, because they have to be prepared for whatever is coming that day. Even though they are an active community, there is still a lot of time spent in prayer every day. They meals are always (except on their day of prayer on Friday) "talking meals." They have a lot of fun together as a community. When I was there I was laughing constantly. Someone above said they take their vow of poverty very seriously. This is really true... they sleep in sleeping bags on wooden frames. It is to promote solidarity with the poor and the homeless whom they are serving. If you have any specific questions other than this, let me know, and I'll try to answer (or I'll call the friars or Sisters and ask... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ora et Labora Posted May 7, 2007 Share Posted May 7, 2007 yah! they sound awesome! ok, where are they're convents are the US?? is they're habit brown? do they say the divine office? are any of the CFR sisters cloistered? : Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThyHolyLove Posted May 7, 2007 Share Posted May 7, 2007 [quote][/quote]ok, where are they're convents are the US?? is they're habit brown? do they say the divine office? are any of the CFR sisters cloistered?[quote][/quote] Their convents in the US are all in the Bronx in New York. Their habit is gray so that they don't stand out. Yes, they say the Divine Office. I think they do Office of Readings, Morning Prayer, Evening Prayer and Night Prayer. No, none of the CFR sisters are cloistered. Their mission is evangelization and to work with the poor and homeless. They are a very on the go community! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ora et Labora Posted May 7, 2007 Share Posted May 7, 2007 oh i see. what does CFR stand for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortnun Posted May 7, 2007 Share Posted May 7, 2007 [quote name='Ora et Labora' post='1267197' date='May 7 2007, 05:18 PM']oh i see. what does CFR stand for? [/quote] Community of Franciscans of the Renewal (I think...someone else please confirm.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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