Sojourner Posted April 24, 2007 Author Share Posted April 24, 2007 [quote name='KnightofChrist' post='1254704' date='Apr 23 2007, 10:08 PM']The study found that one-quarter of the pay gap remains unexplained, which means they really don't know for sure, they seem to guess "the unexplained" 25% is sex dissemination. Which no doubt some of it is but 25%, maybe but perhaps not. I still believe most of this gap if not all can be explain by the "primal instincts" of men and women. This is still very much with us. As in family men typically take the leadership role, the same seems to be true in about every other part of civilization, where as women typically take a more submissive role in a family compared to the man, and that seems to also be true in the business world. Men are typically stronger, faster, and more aggressive than women. Which comes back to why women have babies and men do not, if women where as aggressive as men this would not be good for reproduction. Typically men come to anger quicker than do women, and can handle pressure better than do women. The business world is very much like nature its the survival of the fittest, the strongest in most cases wins and is rewarded, in this sense men are "built" for the business world where as women not as much.[/quote] well, part of the explained 75 percent was child-bearing. And I think you and I know very different women. I'll just leave it at that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullnaChinaShop Posted April 24, 2007 Share Posted April 24, 2007 That 25% is left unexplained (i.e. sexual discrimination) assumes not just that they have corrected for all the factors but also that they have accurately captured all of these factors. That both of these have been properly accunted for in their entirety is very dobtful given how many variables are at play in such a complex system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash Wednesday Posted April 24, 2007 Share Posted April 24, 2007 (edited) I never thought of the "heavy negotiator" issue but I think that's definitely a factor. Women that are assertive are viewed as female dog-y -- I guess there is a kneejerk psychological reaction there. I'm also wondering if in salary negotiations, one is paid by their skills and experience -- and maybe it's a bit harder for women to obtain things like extra experience/training/promotions and whatnot perhaps because of the child rearing issue. I think even in the west, generally it is the woman that has the maternity leave and is expected to handle most of the childcare, even if in theory the children have a nanny or sitter. Generally if something happens that needs a parent's attention and time away from work, it's probably more likely the woman would attend to it. Someone that can be in the office or attend seminars and the like without having the obligation to attend to child matters would probably have an edge in the office as well. So in theory the same position or role on paper, but one might be more "scaled back" in duties and skills than the other. In the eyes of an employer, a person who doesn't have to share their focus with anything but career and the company is probably "worth" more as far as pay goes. I'm not really so resentful about these things, though. I know some women are but when it comes to family stuff I'd like to think I'm somewhat traditional. I'm just speculating, though. Being an artist, my pay doesn't really differ from males. I feel blessed to be in a career where I can work out of the home. Edited April 24, 2007 by Ash Wednesday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XIX Posted April 24, 2007 Share Posted April 24, 2007 [quote name='Terra Firma' post='1254716' date='Apr 23 2007, 10:16 PM']And I think you and I know very different women.[/quote] It isn't easy being green. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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