willguy Posted January 29, 2004 Share Posted January 29, 2004 Does the Eucharist "wear out"? Meaning, like, after you eat it, does the amount of Christ in you decrease with time (obviously the physical aspects of it u ndergo normal physical processes, but I'm talking about the non-accidents of the Eucharist)? If someone takes the Eucharist just once in their whole life, do they have the same amount of Christ in them as someone who takes it daily? Am I making any sense or am I just completely off my rocker? (Don't answer that last one). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiritual_Arsonist Posted January 29, 2004 Share Posted January 29, 2004 I do not think it matters how often one recieves Christ in the Eucharist. Christ Sacramentally remains in us as long as the species maintain the matter of bread/wine. After that, the species cease to exist. It depends on the disposition of the soul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phatcatholic Posted January 29, 2004 Share Posted January 29, 2004 Father William Most says it lasts around 15 minutes. give me some time and i'll find u the article i'm referring to. lets see, i know its around here somewhere........ (phatcatholic sifts thru the 50 million articles he's read since he joined phatmass....) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laudate_Dominum Posted January 29, 2004 Share Posted January 29, 2004 (edited) I've heard the 15 minutes figure in places too. This has to do with the substance/accidents way of thinking about the Eucharist. The idea is that when the accidents of bread are gone, Christ's Eucharistic Presence is gone. But Jesus is present within you always! So long as you don't commit serious sin and forfeit this Gift. Many of the great mystics were vividly aware of Christ's presence in their hearts (I'm talking about a profound, tangible experience of this presence) at all times. So I would say that while the accidents of bread dissolve within you pretty quick, Jesus is joined to you in the Eucharist and this presence does not go away except by sin. But certainly I'm not trying to take away from the fact that when you recieve the Eucharist, that first 15 minutes (I'd say 20 or 30) is the time of deepest union. It's like when spouses consummate their union, it doesn't mean they aren't united or don't love each other except when they are doing the conjugal act. That's an analogy of the Eucharist, it's kind of a renewal of the covenant bonds like love-making is a renewal of the wedding vows. This is why the practice of a long thanksgiving after Mass is so appropriate and so often stressed by the great mystics and spiritual writers of the Church. Peace. Edited January 29, 2004 by Laudate_Dominum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phatcatholic Posted January 29, 2004 Share Posted January 29, 2004 I've heard the 15 minutes figure in places too. This has to do with the substance/accidents way of thinking about the Eucharist. The idea is that when the accidents of bread are gone, Christ's Eucharistic Presence is gone. But Jesus is present within you always! So long as you don't commit serious sin and forfeit this Gift. Many of the great mystics were vividly aware of Christ's presence in their hearts (I'm talking about a profound, tangible experience of this presence) at all times. So I would say that while the accidents of bread dissolve within you pretty quick, Jesus is joined to you in the Eucharist and this presence does not go away except by sin. But certainly I'm not trying to take away from the fact that when you recieve the Eucharist, that first 15 minutes (I'd say 20 or 30) is the time of deepest union. It's like when spouses consummate their union, it doesn't mean they aren't united or don't love each other except when they are doing the conjugal act. That's an analogy of the Eucharist, it's kind of a renewal of the covenant bonds like love-making is a renewal of the wedding vows. This is why the practice of a long thanksgiving after Mass is so appropriate and so often stressed by the great mystics and spiritual writers of the Church. Peace. dude, ur amesome, i'm glad u came to phatmass :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theoketos Posted January 30, 2004 Share Posted January 30, 2004 It is an amazing event. A substantial change takes place, in where the bread and the wine, no longer exist, but in their place, our humbled Savior. The Creator, who from a word created from nothing the universe and you all, is in the Eucharist, He is communicable. We are in communion with Him. He is with us always until the end of time! His body is given up for us as a total and free gift of self! And on to forever praising Him for only eternity could we finish... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_rev Posted February 22, 2004 Share Posted February 22, 2004 On Ewtn when they have thsoe two guys answering questions. They said the Eucharist remains in you for 15 minutes physically but forever spiritually. The question was if it would be permissiable to smoke right after mass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cathgirl Posted February 22, 2004 Share Posted February 22, 2004 Was that on Web of Faith??? I love that show!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iacobus Posted February 22, 2004 Share Posted February 22, 2004 Web of Faith is the best show I have seen in years. I always forget to watch it but when I rember I love it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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