Let The Demonization

[FullTruth]

[quote name='Revprodeji' post='1246547' date='Apr 16 2007, 10:38 PM']Friend,

I would ask that you seek help. Not because I think anything is wrong with you, but because I desire that you have a soul that is free from the burden I worry you draw to yourself. Certain people are more "open" to spiritual attack, but often in the case of exorcisms and posession that person needs to open the door themselves. I worry that you are doing that. The classic christian example of faith is man walking up a latter towards the divine, aided by the angels and saints , but being pulled and distracted by the demons. I worry friend that your focus on the demons might cause your foot to slip as you are chasing God. Chasing God and associating with demons are not mutual friends. I know you feel you are doing good, and you are fighting them. But they are an evil that knows all our moves, has all the experience and if they have your focus you are resorted to nothing but a tool. And God loves you more to let them do that.[/quote]
I will definitely consider what you have said.

Things are not always as they appear to be. One of my more wise friend said to me, be patient with yourself and with the Lord.

I'm still have much to learn about spiritual warfare, and I am glad I am starting to learn a great deal about it now, through that book I sent to you. I could be decieved, and I want to learn how to be free from deceptive spirits.

There will come a time friend, as according to scripture and the will of God I will close windows of heaven, so that it will not rain for 3 and a 1/2 years while I engage in the greatest spiritual battle that I will have to fight. All I have to do now is find my old mentor, and tell him, even though we both sinned greatly before the Lord, his ministry with me has not ended.

I wonder, should I have GodChaser or AWitness as my name.

[cmotherofpirl]

[quote name='FullTruth' post='1246618' date='Apr 16 2007, 11:35 PM']I will definitely consider what you have said.

Things are not always as they appear to be. One of my more wise friend said to me, be patient with yourself and with the Lord.

I'm still have much to learn about spiritual warfare, and I am glad I am starting to learn a great deal about it now, through that book I sent to you. I could be decieved, and I want to learn how to be free from deceptive spirits.

There will come a time friend, as according to scripture and the will of God I will close windows of heaven, so that it will not rain for 3 and a 1/2 years while I engage in the greatest spiritual battle that I will have to fight. All I have to do now is find my old mentor, and tell him, even though we both sinned greatly before the Lord, his ministry with me has not ended.

I wonder, should I have GodChaser or AWitness as my name.[/quote]
Please check out stuff you discover on the internet with people who have a scientific background before you commit to believing it.

[FullTruth]

[quote name='cmotherofpirl' post='1246634' date='Apr 16 2007, 11:42 PM']Please check out stuff you discover on the internet with people who have a scientific background before you commit to believing it.[/quote]
Sure will cmom.

I'm glad you didn't freak about the other thing though. That didn't come from the Internet, it came from God to me in the third year of my conversion, way before I learned any of this stuff. Someone recently re-confirmed it when he said one of the two witnesses would have the annointing of Elija, which God told me he had already given that to me in the third year of my conversion. God is such a great and wonderful master!

Too Budge, that is the real reason I believe in Post-Trib.

Pre-Tribs would have you believe if you are left behind you're going to hell. I know I go through half of the reign of the Anti-Christ, and it will be one big spiritual battle. I wonder when he turns his eyes to me and my mentor what I shall do, just say - kill us, or will we combat him. Time will tell.

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I stress that as well. Check the sources of what you read. Much of the spiritual warfare books are very sensational and written more in a desire to sell books than to present a viable christian option.

I know its not catholic, but Greg Boyd's "God at War" and "Satan and the Problem of Evil" are very good academic books relating to the issue of spiritual warfare. But friend. I must ask, why focus on this? In the grand christian theme of things it is the worst thing to give attention to

[Guest SonOfAPirl]

The Rh, or Rhesus factor, of your blood depends on whether you have the Rh-D surface antigen. Those lacking the antigen are referred to as Rh negative.
As for blood types, same thing. If you have A, you have the A antigen, B, B antigen, AB, you have both, and o, you have neither.
So would you say that those with type o blood, that they are demons because they have no surface antigens?
My ex girlfriend is type o-, and she's close to being a demon, but if you're going by blood type, then wouldn't you be a demon if you are A+, B+, or AB+, since you HAVE the antigen?

Oh yeah, by the way dude, I'm a phlebotomist and lab tech at a blood plasma center, and we have many people of each blood type and RhD factor. I can tell you that blood type and Rhesus D factors have nothing to do with how evil a person is. It's all about heredity. If anything, I'd be less worried about how evil a person is and more concerned about what would happen if a man who is Rh+ and a woman who is Rh- have a baby.

here are some links for you to read

[url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_type"]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_type[/url]
[url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rh_factor"]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rh_factor[/url]
[url="http://www.kidshealth.org/parent/pregnancy_newborn/pregnancy/rh.html"]http://www.kidshealth.org/parent/pregnancy...egnancy/rh.html[/url]

Enjoy and God Bless!

[cmotherofpirl]

[zdog042]

[quote name='Cathoholic Anonymous' post='1246277' date='Apr 16 2007, 07:30 PM']No matter which of Revprodeji's four criteria FullTruth meets, that is a remarkably strange thing to say. If he's misinformed (unlikey) he will feel that his misinformation has somehow been validated by your interest. If he's playing a joke, he will laugh harder. If he's suffering from a mental illness, your interest will fuel his belief in his delusions. If he is demon-possessed, this will provoke the devils.

Personally I think he's unwell. I also think we've heard as much as we need to hear about the nephilim. I vote that this thread be closed. It's not serving any purpose now.[/quote]

I guess I don't think it is such a weird thing to say. I want to know things, especially if what Revprodeji says is true and this is an old thing to say, I should know about it, where it came from, what surrounds it, so I am not taken by suprise by what people say. I am not wanting to know everything about it, just the basics so . I still don't know what sources were used. I guess I'll have to go to the source then.

Rev...don't make me whine....please show me your sources.....?

[FullTruth]

[quote name='Revprodeji' post='1246659' date='Apr 16 2007, 11:56 PM']I stress that as well. Check the sources of what you read. Much of the spiritual warfare books are very sensational and written more in a desire to sell books than to present a viable christian option.

I know its not catholic, but Greg Boyd's "God at War" and "Satan and the Problem of Evil" are very good academic books relating to the issue of spiritual warfare. But friend. I must ask, why focus on this? In the grand christian theme of things it is the worst thing to give attention to[/quote]
Actually,

The book I was reading wasn't very sensational, and more down to earth. It was written in the early 1900s, because the writter noticed some things Christians were practicing which resembled witchcraft.

I'm trying to learn it so I will have more competencies when it concerns on how to acknowledge what is of God, and what is not of God and I need to come against it in the name of Jesus Christ.

It doesn't concern anything about Nephilim, but general helping someone understand the true operations of God and how to prevent any deceptive spirit from coming to you. Who knows, after reading that, I may find that the things I learned from before were from demonic spirits, and I will take care of them, once and for all.

That is why I have become strict in bible reading, and following it's example right now, because the spirit of God and the word will always agree with each other. So instead of praying hardships away, I find something in scripture that will deal with the situation. If it isn't in the Bible, I won't follow allow it in my life.

Like the 7-day cleansing and 1-day fast against Pornography I just went through up to last Sunday. 16 days lust free! WOOT! Eat that devil! Nine-years of praying to God asking him to get rid of it for me, and then one week of obedience to his word, and then he is faithful.

I always knew God would do it eventually. I don't think you can be one of the two witnesses without a complete armour of God, and a competely circumsized heart.

[jckinsman]

[quote name='FullTruth' post='1246722' date='Apr 16 2007, 11:18 PM']Actually,

The book I was reading wasn't very sensational, and more down to earth. It was written in the early 1900s, because the writter noticed some things Christians were practicing which resembled witchcraft.

I'm trying to learn it so I will have more competencies when it concerns on how to acknowledge what is of God, and what is not of God and I need to come against it in the name of Jesus Christ.

It doesn't concern anything about Nephilim, but general helping someone understand the true operations of God and how to prevent any deceptive spirit from coming to you. Who knows, after reading that, I may find that the things I learned from before were from demonic spirits, and I will take care of them, once and for all.

That is why I have become strict in bible reading, and following it's example right now, because the spirit of God and the word will always agree with each other. So instead of praying hardships away, I find something in scripture that will deal with the situation. If it isn't in the Bible, I won't follow allow it in my life.

Like the 7-day cleansing and 1-day fast against Pornography I just went through up to last Sunday. 16 days lust free! WOOT! Eat that devil! Nine-years of praying to God asking him to get rid of it for me, and then one week of obedience to his word, and then he is faithful.

I always knew God would do it eventually. I don't think you can be one of the two witnesses without a complete armour of God, and a competely circumsized heart.[/quote]

Praise God,That you are fighting that battle against Pornography! It is truly an Evil! I read somewhere that you could feed the ENTIRE world on what the United States alone spends on Pornography! Congratulations! I have to admit FT,I did not know what YHWH was! Curious as I was I looked it up............You have said some pretty odd things, maybe misunderstood........But odd! I was wondering if you actually go to that church or you just subscibe to that way of thinking?????? After reading all of the stuff on YHWH, My first thoughts were sadness ! When will it ever end? The splitting and division of Gods People? You can never ask a catholic (who truly knows his faith,through Gods grace) To believe what you( or I should say your "church") are saying. For you are asking us to believe" less" then what we already know to be true! Without any Authority my Freind, there can never be unity,without unity there can never be Christ! After all, HE did call us to unity. Free will allows for mistakes(that is why I love holy mother church)Mt 18:17-18 col 1:18 Jn 10:16 Jn15:16 Mt 28:18-20 1 tim 3:15 Mt 16:18 Mt 16:19 Mal 2:7. 1 cor 11:2 2 thess 2:15 2 thess 3:6 Hey lets not forget about Jn21;25 2 tim2:2 2 Pet 1:20 etc......
....I know.......you may not understand all that catholics do and think.There has to be some verses in that bible of yours that you are puzzled by. Maybe not....Eh????? I do not know your walk! But I do know this, what I read, tells me alot about the way you think! Many blessings! JC

Edited April 17, 2007 by jckinsman

[FullTruth]

[quote name='jckinsman' post='1247223' date='Apr 17 2007, 04:32 PM']Praise God,That you are fighting that battle against Pornography! It is truly an Evil! I read somewhere that you could feed the ENTIRE world on what the United States alone spends on Pornography! Congratulations! I have to admit FT,I did not know what YHWH was! Curious as I was I looked it up............You have said some pretty odd things, maybe misunderstood........But odd! I was wondering if you actually go to that church or you just subscibe to that way of thinking?????? After reading all of the stuff on YHWH, My first thoughts were sadness ! When will it ever end? The splitting and division of Gods People? You can never ask a catholic (who truly knows his faith,through Gods grace) To believe what you( or I should say your "church") are saying. For you are asking us to believe" less" then what we already know to be true! Without any Authority my Freind, there can never be unity,without unity there can never be Christ! After all, HE did call us to unity. Free will allows for mistakes(that is why I love holy mother church)Mt 18:17-18 col 1:18 Jn 10:16 Jn15:16 Mt 28:18-20 1 tim 3:15 Mt 16:18 Mt 16:19 Mal 2:7. 1 cor 11:2 2 thess 2:15 2 thess 3:6 Hey lets not forget about Jn21;25 2 tim2:2 2 Pet 1:20 etc......
....I know.......you may not understand all that catholics do and think.There has to be some verses in that bible of yours that you are puzzled by. Maybe not....Eh????? I do not know your walk! But I do know this, what I read, tells me alot about the way you think! Many blessings! JC[/quote]
Thanks for the vote of confidence about my struggle. The credit should go all to God because it was his word that gave me the revelation as to what I needed to do to get rid of it. I think there will be a book on that testimony eventually, but not right now.

Do I go to a church that subscribes to what I am talking about. No. If Nephilim do exist, do you think they would want a church who is teaching things about them, and how to fight them? That's not going to happen ever. They are afraid of true believers who are willing to do anything to please God, renouncing everything, because above all else, I MUST BE SAVED! That is the cry of my heart continually. Whatever I need to get rid of, take it away from me, because I don't want to be without you.

I'm going through all the Bible right now, KJV. I'm reading 7 chapters a day on days I work, and 21+ chapters on days I am not working. Right now, I think I have a good handle on what is being said, because the holy spirit is guiding me to understand what is being said in God's word.

I've read certain passages out of the Catholic Bible, and they love putting extra influence in their scriptures, which I believe are adding to the meaning of the Bible, IMHO.

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[quote name='zdog042' post='1246720' date='Apr 16 2007, 11:18 PM']I guess I don't think it is such a weird thing to say. I want to know things, especially [b]if what Revprodeji says is true [/b]and this is an old thing to say, I should know about it, where it came from, what surrounds it, so I am not taken by suprise by what people say. I am not wanting to know everything about it, just the basics so . I still don't know what sources were used. I guess I'll have to go to the source then.

[b]Rev...don't make me whine....please show me your sources.....?[/b][/quote]



you know to much. I might have to kill you...

[Budge]

[url="http://www.khouse.org/articles/1997/22/"]CHRISTIAN STUDY OF NEPHILIM[/url]

I think FullGrace may have been affected by all these websites on line that reveal the Nephlilim many of them are full of mixture of truth and lies, and some definitely have an aura of evil meant to deceive even openly or more convertly...ie the nephilim researchers that pretend to be Christians or the occultists who are open about their dismissal of Jesus Christ saying EVERY RELIGION on earth has been invented by the Annakuki.

[cmotherofpirl]

[quote name='Budge' post='1247993' date='Apr 18 2007, 01:00 PM'][url="http://www.khouse.org/articles/1997/22/"]CHRISTIAN STUDY OF NEPHILIM[/url]

I think FullGrace may have been affected by all these websites on line that reveal the Nephlilim many of them are full of mixture of truth and lies, and some definitely have an aura of evil meant to deceive even openly or more convertly...ie the nephilim researchers that pretend to be Christians or the occultists who are open about their dismissal of Jesus Christ saying EVERY RELIGION on earth has been invented by the Annakuki.[/quote]
So they are in the same category as chick carp.

[prose]

[quote name='FullTruth' post='1246618' date='Apr 16 2007, 09:35 PM']I will definitely consider what you have said.

There will come a time friend, as according to scripture and the will of God I will close windows of heaven, so that it will not rain for 3 and a 1/2 years while I engage in the greatest spiritual battle that I will have to fight. All I have to do now is find my old mentor, and tell him, even though we both sinned greatly before the Lord, his ministry with me has not ended.[/quote]

Umm... Seriously. You need help.

And this thread I think is adding to your imbalance.

By the way, I do not have the blood type you refer to. I do, however, have my psychology degree, and you really seem to fit many, if not all, of hte symptoms of schizophrenia. I am sorry, but I also think that everyone responding the way they have in this thread is making things worse, not better for you.

[jckinsman]

You would KNOW where his is COMING from if you read the YHWH website! Its very INTERESTING! (Coupled with mania) >So I'am not sure if you can add to anything else that is going on in his head! Hopefully Christ will..............all things are possible through God! Keep praying! JC