Are We Catholics Ready To Save The World - Stop Global Warming?

[tate4242]

the remainder of the e-mail to Prime Minister Stephen Harper:

[url="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Tate4CentralNova/message/622"]http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Tate4CentralNova/message/622[/url]

[quote]Although your accepting this offer would probably be difficult for you considering that I plan to run for office in the next federal election, at the least I wanted to give you this option. I am seeking 24 official co-applicants for my submission for the Virgin Earth anti-global warming award. Sir, I would certainly love to have you as one of them.

I plan to also extend this invitation to His Holiness Pope Benedict. After you read my application it will be obvious why I wish to have both you and the Catholic pontiff involved. The most effective remedy for global warming will be expensive.

I have also asked biologist Mr. Carl Cantrell to become an official co-applicant. A friend of mine sent me a link into one of Mr. Cantrell’s writings about a month ago. Last week I read his proposed solution to global warming and it is obvious that he has covered this subject brilliantly and far more in depth than my own writings.

[url="http://hauns.com/~DCQu4E5g/globwarm.html"]http://hauns.com/~DCQu4E5g/globwarm.html[/url]
Global Warming II by Carl Cantrell

“[b]So how is our problem of continental drying causing global warming? It all has to do with vegetation and sun light.[/b] When sun light hits a plant, it causes a process which we call photosynthesis where the energy from the sun light creates oxygen for us to breath, water for us to drink, and is stored as sugar for plants and animals to use. [b]When the same sun light hits the soil, all of its energy turns into heat and is radiated back into the atmosphere, carried away by running surface water such as rain fall, is carried away to other areas by our winds, and diffuses down into the soil towards the earth's crust. All of this warms our planet increasing its average temperature[/b].”

“[size=4]Therefore, the less vegetation you have on the planet, the more sunlight is being turned into heat and the warmer the planet becomes. This is very critical because warmer and dryer winds dry out other land areas faster decreasing the vegetation on those land areas. Less humidity in the air also reflects less sun light back out into space so that more sun light strikes the earth and more heat is generated[/size].”….

“[size=4]The truth is that you can do more to decrease global warming by just reducing the average temperature for the Sahara Desert by one or two degrees than if we humans completely quit using fossil fuels and returned to the cave[/size]….”

“[size=4]So, how would you start working to resolve this problem? Easy, cool the deserts and get some vegetation growing on them as soon as possible[/size]….”

“[size=4]We need to start working on this as soon as possible because, if the planet reaches a point to where it is warming faster than our technology can possibly stop or reverse this warming trend, then our planet is lost and all life will cease to exist on this planet within a relatively short period of time. We will need to start with the largest and hottest deserts because cooling them will have the greatest benefit in the least time[/size].”

Mr. Minister, you can read the text of my own introductory submission here at this link: [url="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Tate4CentralNova/message/1"]http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Tate4CentralNova/message/1[/url] “Anti-Armageddon Paradigm Shift Monetary Policy Theory – The Introduction.”

Thank you for your consideration of this matter Mr. Prime Minister.

Warm regards.

Dennis Tate

p.s. Mr. Prime Minister, the best explanation that I have personally ever read on how such a massive project could be financed was written by three economists, Harold Chorney, John Hotson, and Mario Seccareccia. It can be viewed here:
[url="http://www.michaeljournal.org/appenB.htm"]http://www.michaeljournal.org/appenB.htm[/url][/quote]

Edited December 29, 2007 by tate4242

[Nathan]

I'm ready to help save the world from the new environmentalist/global warmist religion.

[goldbug16]

This is what I think of global warming:

[tate4242]

[quote name='Winchester' post='1414929' date='Nov 5 2007, 03:13 PM']We cannot stop global warming. We can reduce our pollution and the small role we play in thist natural trend, but we can't stop any more than we started it.[/quote]

I must vehemently disgree with your idea that humnity cannot stop global warming:


And the LORD said, Behold, the people [is] one, and they have all one language; and this they begin to do: [size=4]and now nothing will be restrained from them, which they have imagined to do[/size].

Can we imagine building dozens or even hundreds of desalinization plants? No problem...

[url="http://hauns.com/~DCQu4E5g/globwarm.html"]http://hauns.com/~DCQu4E5g/globwarm.html[/url]

[quote]So, how would you start working to resolve this problem? Easy, cool the deserts and get some vegetation growing on them as soon as possible.[/quote]

[quote][size=5]Then we build desalination plants along the coast near these water sheds and pipe water to the tops or ridges of the water sheds[/size]. Next, we use sprinkler systems to disperse the water along the tops of the ridges of the water sheds so that it will run down the faces of the hills towards the dry stream beds, down the stream beds to dry river beds, and back out towards the sea. We need to use sprinklers because we also want plenty of water to evaporate into the air cooling it and increasing the humidity.[/quote]

[tate4242]

[quote name='Nathan' post='1439532' date='Dec 29 2007, 12:48 PM']I'm ready to help save the world from the new environmentalist/global warmist religion.[/quote]

I admit that some people are trying to turn environmentlism into a religion. Phil on my yahoo group
stated essentilly this same thing...and yes, this is true....but frankly people are facing HUGE PROBLEMS if the polar ice caps are indeed melting rapidly...and we should do all in our power to address this problem.

[url="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Tate4CentralNova/message/623"]http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Tate4CentralNova/message/623[/url]
People are prepared/Hit Forward. Re: Fwd: COMMENTS ABOUT GLOBAL WARMING.

[quote]Yes, I agree that probably some influential folks are
attempting to use the fear of global warming to scare
people into accepting greater control by themselves.

[size=4]On the other hand I personally am responsible to
the people of Central Nova, many of whom like myself
if we see a one meter rise in ocean levels during
high tides, the
road that we drive on to go to work would
be flooded. Hundreds
of people in this area would actually lose their homes
if oceans rise by one meter over the next
decade. If Mr. Velikovsky is correct and if we
are experiencing a polar shift, then something needs to
be done about this, and FAST[/size]....

[size=4]Whether or not humans are causing global warming is
not the number one question, we need to know
what the most immediate results will be, I PERSONaLLY
DO BELIEVE THaT RISING OCEaN LEVELS WILL
PROBaBLY OCCUR, and whether human activity is
the number one cause or not, if there is a solution
that humans could perhaps set in motion, then
of course we should do it[/size].

[size=5]Joseph advised people to grow more food and store it,
I and Mr. Carl Cantrell are advising people to build
desalinization plants and pump off
the extra fresh water into the deserts, for about a hundred
possible major positive benefits.[/size]

I believe that my message that I sent out to the Prime Minister
yesterday is worth hitting forward with. I think that everybody
should have the opportunity to read Mr. Cantrell's article.

[url="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Tate4CentralNova/message/588"]http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Tate4CentralNova/message/588[/url]

Prime Minister Stephen Harper. Proposed Global Warming Remedy from Dennis Tate

People are prepared and ready to get involved in something
big but they will be destroyed if they lack the knowledge
of the real reasons why ocean levels are probably rising.[/quote]

[tate4242]

[quote name='goldbug16' post='1439542' date='Dec 29 2007, 12:59 PM']This is what I think of global warming:
:lol_pound:[/quote]

Hi Goldbug:

..but at least you are reading and thinking about this subject and your courtesy to comment makes this whole thread look more interesting...which is a very good start...

[url="http://hauns.com/~DCQu4E5g/globwarm.html"]http://hauns.com/~DCQu4E5g/globwarm.html[/url]

[quote][size=4]If you study history and anthropology, you find out that there really is global warming but it is not a recent occurrence and has little, if anything, to do with the burning of fossil fuels[/size]. For a long time, they have been trying to find really great and ancient civilizations because they assumed they had to be in moist climates with plenty of surface water. After all, these great civilizations were agrarian civilizations which depended heavily on farming and requires large amounts of surface water.

What they have been finding over the last few decades is that where these great agrarian societies used to be is so dry today that a goat herder couldn't live there today.......[/quote]

[jeffpugh]

How's about a global update here...

I'm in Canada... the southernish part of Ontario. I have lots of snow out in my yard. still. it's been there since the November fall. I think we're okay, cause the cars are still pumping waste into the atmosphere, and I still have snow. I don't like the waste idea, but it's still cold. Thanks,

A Canuck.

[tate4242]

[quote name='Sacred Music Man' post='1439622' date='Dec 29 2007, 02:22 PM']How's about a global update here...

I'm in Canada... the southernish part of Ontario. I have lots of snow out in my yard. still. it's been there since the November fall. I think we're okay, cause the cars are still pumping waste into the atmosphere, and I still have snow. I don't like the waste idea, but it's still cold. Thanks,

A Canuck.[/quote]

Good point...Yes, I got an extremely encouraging message on my yahoo group today along this line as well:

[url="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Tate4CentralNova/message/1947"]http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Tate4CentralNova/message/1947[/url]

[b]Global Warming? New Data Shows Ice Is Back[/b]

[quote]Global Warming? New Data Shows Ice Is Back

Are the world's ice caps melting because of climate change, or are
the reports just a lot of scare mongering by the advocates of the
global warming theory?


Scare mongering appears to be the case, according to reports from the
U.S. National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) that
reveal that almost all the allegedly "lost" ice has come back. A NOAA
report shows that ice levels which had shrunk from 5 million square
miles in January 2007 to just 1.5 million square miles in October,
are almost back to their original levels.


Moreover, a Feb. 18 report in the London Daily Express showed that
there is nearly a third more ice in Antarctica than usual,
challenging the global warming crusaders and buttressing arguments of
skeptics who deny that the world is undergoing global warming.


The Daily express recalls the photograph of polar bears clinging on
to a melting iceberg which has been widely hailed as proof of the
need to fight climate change and has been used by former Vice
President Al Gore during his "Inconvenient Truth" lectures about
mankind's alleged impact on the global climate.


Gore fails to mention that the photograph was taken in the month of
August when melting is normal. Or that the polar bear population has
soared in recent years.[/quote]

Ok, there certainly is another side to this question...but on the other hand National Geographic has published a statement that the average surface temperature of Mars is up by 1.17 degrees farenheit from 1975 to 1995 and Isaiah does predict that somehow the light of the sun would be seven fold in the day that YHWH binds up the wound of his people....It seems to me that we should seriously consider the Carl Cantrell remedy for global warming because how can we possibly go wrong by causing "the deserts to blossom like a rose" with our technology???

[Theoketos]

I am the next Captain Planet.

[jeffpugh]

Intersting, Tate. Thanks for the link. We SHOULD be using our technology for good, but as for the "deserts blooming" there are things called Christmas Cacti. They bloom.

Oh wait... are you talking about going to mars?

[tate4242]

[quote name='Theoketos' post='1466238' date='Feb 20 2008, 01:23 PM']I am the next Captain Planet.[/quote]

....frankly...this has tremendous potential...the world sorely needs a "Captain Planet!!!"

King David allowed spittle to drip down on his beard, feigned madness, in order to give a certain impression when in a place where his life was hanging by a thread. How theatrical would you or I be willing to be to attempt to make this planet a vastly better, safer, more prosperous place to live in?

There is a fascinating Jewish prophecy about a person who comes along in the latter days who assists them to construct their Jerusalem Third Temple...and frankly perhaps Catholics should propose a television program designed for the Israeli audience where Catholics, and Protestants, put forward their theatrical best to act out the role of "Moshiach ben Ephrayim or Messiah son of Joseph" or the latter day King Cyrus type:

[url="http://britam.org/messiah.html"]http://britam.org/messiah.html[/url]

[quote]Our Sacred Sages had a tradition that in the beginning [of the End Times] there would arise a Messiah [i.e. Anointed Saviour] from the house of Joseph who will reign over the Ten Tribes. He will wage wars and all of Israel will be gathered together under his banner. [This will continue] until later on, a descendant of David will appear and he will reign over them....
<<A transformation will take place. The Ten Tribes and the stick of Joseph will draw themselves closer unto the stick of Judah, and this too, will be through the agency of a Prophet and by miracles>>.
The Commentary of "Malbim" on Ezekiel 37:15[/quote]

In Israel....a program entitled "Israel Idol" just might not perhaps have the best ring to it...especially with the Ultra Orthodox or Chassidic community...but seeing us North American types doing our level best to attempt to assist the Jews to have their ultimate expression of religious freedom...their Third Temple restored and observants Levites offering kosher sacrifices therein...The Israelis would indeed appreciate our attempts to help them in this....

Isaiah states that the Cyrus type mentioned in Isaiah 42 - 46 will be from the north...as well as a "bird of prey from the east"...(define east???)....and Isaiah chapter 45 states that he does not really know YHWH...which is the ultimate excuse to perhaps not be a member of whatever group a listener happens to be a member of....

We have been told that we will not see his face until we say "blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord"...historically we thought that this depended entirely on Jews...but from the perspective of us Christians...did Ezekiel come in the name of the Lord?? Yes he did. Was Ezekiel blessed and inspired by YHWH.....Yes he was... So will his predictions given in Chapters 40 - 48 of his book be fulfilled or not??? Yes they will.... So should serious Catholics and Protestants stand up for the right of the Jewish people to rebuild their Jerusalem Third Temple?

I believe so!!!!

Could somebody do this while dressed up in a silly costume with the letters MBE? on it?

Yes, (Moshiach ben Ephrayim...maybe?????!)....

Actually, I have already began to submit my audition for this role:
[url="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Tate4CentralNova/message/11"]http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Tate4CentralNova/message/11[/url]
[b]Dennis Tate supports Jerusalem Third Temple/ [/b]

I just can't argue effectively with this article by Mr. Carl Cantrell on this subject:
[url="http://hauns.com/~DCQu4E5g/Temple.html"]http://hauns.com/~DCQu4E5g/Temple.html[/url]


[quote]The Temple

One of the hottest topics on the planet is whether the Israeli's or Jews should be given control of the Temple Mount and be permitted to build the third Jewish Temple. I have realized that this discussion is a no brainer and will discuss this from the perspective of the Jews, Biblical Christians, Muslims, Liberal Christians, Atheists, Pagans, and the Occult, including satanists, witches, and those who generally practice Black Magic.


Orthodox Jews And Biblical Christians

It should be obvious that anyone who truly reads and believes the ancient Jewish scriptures often referred to as the Bible or any part of it should believe that the Jewish Temple must be rebuilt. This is because those ancient scriptures make it very clear that the Messiah will come to Jerusalem, take control of the Jewish Temple on the Temple Mount, and set up His kingdom. In order for their Messiah to come, the Jews must build the Temple on the Temple Mount with no other structures present.

Only those Jews and Christians who profess a belief in their religion and don't truly believe or even just doubt the coming of their Messiah should resist the building of the Jewish Temple for fear that they will be proved wrong. Therefore, for either Jews or professing Christians to resist the building of the Jewish Temple on the Temple Mount is them saying that they do not really believe what they profess to believe. It shows that their faith is either not real or is very weak.


Muslims

Most people from other religions don't realize that the Muslims have a prophesy from Muhammad stating that Jesus will come, not as a Son of God or diety, but as a man, to Jerusalem, seize control of the Jewish Temple on the Temple Mount, set up his kingdom, and give the order for all Muslims to kill off all non-Muslims. This is supposed to bring about ever lasting paradise for Islam. In other words, for the Islamic Messiah to come, the Jewish Temple must be built on the Temple Mount with no other structures.

Any and all Muslims who resist the building of the Jewish Temple on the Temple Mount are saying, with their actions, that they don't really believe the prophesy of Muhammad and are calling Muhammad a liar. According to the Koran, any one who claims to be a Muslim but does not believe Muhammad is a hypocrite, is to be put to death, and will burn in Hell.

So why do all the Muslims refuse to give the Temple Mount to Israel and permit Israel to build the Temple in exact opposition to Islamic prophesy? Do they not believe Muhammad and Islam? Do they not believe their Messiah will come? Do they not want their Messiah to come?

If I were a Muslim and truly believed Islam and Muhammad, I would personally take a bulldozer on the Temple Mount, level everything on it, give the Mount to the Jews, and say, "Build your Temple so my Messiah can come." To do anything else, in Islam, is to be a hypocrite......[/quote]

[tate4242]

Personally I believe that this Islamic prophecy holds a possible key to bringing a vastly decreased level of hostility to the Middle East....

(the joys of dial up...it looked at first as if the previous post had not gone through and I practically wrote all of it again!)...silly me!!!

Edited March 2, 2008 by tate4242

[tate4242]

If you have an interest in possible methods to make life safer for Israelis and Palestinians and everybody else on the earth in the process...you might find this possible angle to be of interest:

[url="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Tate4CentralNova/message/3"]http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Tate4CentralNova/message/3[/url]
[b]Tate proposal to decrease hostility in Middle East. Re[/b]


[quote]I have given a lot of thought over the past few years as to how Jewish control of the Temple Mount area could be arranged....how the Arab nations could be convinced to agree to this happening short of their being virtually wiped out militarily....the best most promising theory on how this may be arranged is the putting forward of a forty year plan to shoot massive epic reality films centered in Jerusalem...and at the end of this forty year period Israel has complete control of the Temple Mount area....Your Third Temple has been built.....every stone in the ancient Temple has been "thrown down" and then reassembled elsewhere as a museum/historical site.... The Dome of the Rock on the other hand should be dismantled with the utmost care and again reassembled elsewhere as a historical site..... It was originally a gift to the Jewish people from an Arab prince who had tremendous respect for Moshe and all things Jewish....it could be given back to the Arab nations quite gracefully especially if doing so paved the way for the rebuilding of the Third TEmple....

I think that one half of Jerusalem must be rented/leased for the filming of the capture of one half of Jerusalem spoken of by Zechariah....

The rental/leasing of Jerusalem among other royalties, concessions and box office sales will help finance the REbuilding of the Third Temple leaving Israel with no outstanding debt despite the magnitude of the entire project......

Considering that China will by 2010 have perhaps as many as 170,000,000 men who will have virtually no hope of ever finding a wife due to China's habit of aborting ninety percent of female babies....I believe that larger and larger troops of reality film actors posing as soldiers from many time periods and places....can be lured to the Valley of Megiddo....partly due to the efforts of female actors....who may perhaps ....[/quote]

Edited March 2, 2008 by tate4242

[tate4242]

[quote name='Sacred Music Man' post='1466286' date='Feb 20 2008, 03:04 PM']Intersting, Tate. Thanks for the link. We SHOULD be using our technology for good, but as for the "deserts blooming" there are things called Christmas Cacti. They bloom. :)

Oh wait... are you talking about going to mars? :P[/quote]

Speaking of Mars, I've came to the conclusion that there are actually four major causes of
global warming.

1. Desertification
2. A natural warming trend linked to a stage in the life cycle of our sun. Average temperatures on the
surface of Mars rose by 1.17 degrees Farenheit in the two decades from 1975 to 1995.
3. Green house gas emissions.
4. A possible polar shift/fluctuation in the magnetic poles.

Isn't it nice to read that prophecy is not set in stone and the future can be altered?

[url="http://www.near-death.com/experiences/research32.html"]http://www.near-death.com/experiences/research32.html[/url]


[quote][b][size=5]The goal of apocalyptic prophecy is to warn people to prevent it from happening. The reason prophecies are given to humanity is to change current trends and change enough people so that the prophecy will be diverted[/size].[/b] Well-known prophecies that were foretold to occur around the millennium have not happened. Skeptics point out that this proves these prophecies to be false. But a better understanding of prophecy reveals that either (1) or (2) is true:

(1) The prophecy was successful in permanently diverting the outcome by the raising of the world's consciousness.


(2) Because the prophecy gives an exact date, the prophecy may still be valid and the date may be wrong.[/quote]



[quote]"People get mad at me for saying it, but God is very unhappy with what we're doing. When I came back from the experience I was almost out of my mind trying to convert people. God wanted a worldwide conversion thousands of years ago. God pulled out all the stops 2,000 years ago with Jesus. From God's view, that was the definitive moment in human history. And the impact of the prophets and teachers and the Messiah has been a big disappointment to God because people have by and large rejected it. I was told that God wants this conversion. And if we don't get with the program fairly soon, He is going to have to intervene in some ways that from a human point of view are going to seem cataclysmic. [b]God is really tired of what we're doing to one another and the planet and to His Creation. We were put in this world to be stewards and live in harmony with His creation and one another and we don't realize the important spiritual consequences of what we do when we raise a child in a faithless society[/b]."[/quote]

[jeffpugh]

Interesting thoughts about the temple mount. I saw on some protestant TV station some ad about a news story about Jews getting a huge load of stone and a giant menorah for rebuilding the temple... a few things ran through my mind at that moment...

1) Where they goona build it? The temple mount has a big mosque on it!
2) I don't think they have the priesthood anymore. The priestly line has moved on to the Christian tradition (being Catholic and Orthodox), aka the apostles and their successors. A new covenant has begun. A new sacrifice had occurred and is perpetuated throughout time through this priesthood *BY THE GRACE OF GOD
3) I heard somewhere that it's not known how many candle spots there were on the original menorah. Something about not copying the holy object (at least for Hanukkah)

Just some thoughts. Number one's a biggy.