Brother Adam Posted April 12, 2007 Share Posted April 12, 2007 [quote name='Budge' post='1240066' date='Apr 12 2007, 04:47 PM']Anyone who witnesses to Catholics, has to pray for protection night and day including curses sent by knowing Satanists. I know the curses have no power over me in Jesus Christ.[/quote] Wait, wait, wait. I just want to be sure I have this right, now Catholics are Satanists? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FullTruth Posted April 12, 2007 Author Share Posted April 12, 2007 [quote name='Brother Adam' post='1240100' date='Apr 12 2007, 03:31 PM']Wait, wait, wait. I just want to be sure I have this right, now Catholics are Satanists?[/quote] I wouldn't be surprised there are some professing Catholics who are Satanists, as there are some professing Protestants who are Satanists, and some professing buddhists who are Satanists, ect, ect, ect. If know who your enemies are, wouldn't you inflitrate and spy on their activities, just to ensure they are kept in line, and know exactly what they are doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmotherofpirl Posted April 12, 2007 Share Posted April 12, 2007 [quote name='Budge' post='1240066' date='Apr 12 2007, 02:47 PM']"Anyone who witnesses to Catholics, has to pray for protection night and day"[/quote] Budge that is funniest thing you have ever typed.... Are you praying for Satan for help, or God not to smite you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Budge Posted April 12, 2007 Share Posted April 12, 2007 (edited) Yes that was a typo... oops... No Im not saying Catholics are Satanists, but guess what kids, on ezboard, known Satanists go around trolling FOR CATHOLICISM. They fight the Bible Christians tooth and nail. There's one notorious one on ezboard that likes to use variations of the word Cherub for her user names, who has pretended to be a Catholic for years. I find it VERY INTERSTING how many Satanists and occultists on message boards always take up for the Catholic side. Sometimes theyll fake being evangelicals but they always get it wrong, and mix in lies and STILL take the Catholic side... Edited April 12, 2007 by Budge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Budge Posted April 12, 2007 Share Posted April 12, 2007 [quote]Budge that is funniest thing you have ever typed.... Are you praying for Satan for help, or God not to smite you?[/quote] What is wrong with praying for protection? I know Catholics are NOT taught spiritual warfare, many liberal ones in the pews dont even believe demons are real. I believe in spritiual warfare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest T-Bone Posted April 12, 2007 Share Posted April 12, 2007 [quote]There's one notorious one on ezboard that likes to use variations of the word Cherub for her user names, who has pretended to be a Catholic for years[/quote] So, someone pretending to be a Catholic disproves the Catholic religion? I like that theory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Budge Posted April 12, 2007 Share Posted April 12, 2007 [quote]take no pleasure of seeing them come against me, and sending their attacks back on them.[/quote] So Christians are to take "revenge"? If you send a curse back on someone else, you have just committed the act of witchcraft YOURSELF. See this is the stuff Im talking about... Thats why I said I had negative discernment about you some time ago. It worries me because these Catholics are confused enough and I have mr. Latter Rain, "fight" the demons adding more confusion to this board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin (Wiccan) Posted April 12, 2007 Share Posted April 12, 2007 Before I take the time to provide a point-by-point rebuttal to your "evidence," if it comes to that, I do want to say a few things. So you're a Libertarian--cool. Be one. Concentrate on doing what is right rather than bowing to any political party, and you're well on your way. "Occult influence"? Hogwash. The things you list as "occult influence" are the vain imaginations of those who wouldn't know something truly occultic if it bit them on the rear end. If you want to discuss the specifics you've posted in the OP, I have the knowledge and experience to discuss them: I am a Wiccan High Priest and Magus, and have practiced for eighteen years. Frankly, from your assertions, I'm beginning to think you use the word "Pagan" and "Occult" not as they actually mean, but simply as keywords for "Budge doesn't like them." If you would like to discuss these issues in greater depth, I await your convenience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Adam Posted April 12, 2007 Share Posted April 12, 2007 [quote name='Budge' post='1240416' date='Apr 12 2007, 10:03 PM']Yes that was a typo... oops... No Im not saying Catholics are Satanists, but guess what kids, on ezboard, known Satanists go around trolling FOR CATHOLICISM. They fight the Bible Christians tooth and nail. There's one notorious one on ezboard that likes to use variations of the word Cherub for her user names, who has pretended to be a Catholic for years. I find it VERY INTERSTING how many Satanists and occultists on message boards always take up for the Catholic side. Sometimes theyll fake being evangelicals but they always get it wrong, and mix in lies and STILL take the Catholic side...[/quote] I don't believe you, if they do, they are a troll just like you. If a Satanist is pretending to be a Catholic, then they are just a wolf in sheeps clothing. The grand prize for a Satanist is getting their hands on the Eucharist for their black masses. It says something that a Satanist has an automatic aversion to the mass and that they know what the Eucharist is (the body, blood, soul, and divinity of Christ). But then, as a troll, you already knew that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FullTruth Posted April 12, 2007 Author Share Posted April 12, 2007 [quote name='Justin (Wiccan)' post='1240429' date='Apr 12 2007, 08:13 PM']Before I take the time to provide a point-by-point rebuttal to your "evidence," if it comes to that, I do want to say a few things. So you're a Libertarian--cool. Be one. Concentrate on doing what is right rather than bowing to any political party, and you're well on your way. "Occult influence"? Hogwash. The things you list as "occult influence" are the vain imaginations of those who wouldn't know something truly occultic if it bit them on the rear end. If you want to discuss the specifics you've posted in the OP, I have the knowledge and experience to discuss them: I am a Wiccan High Priest and Magus, and have practiced for eighteen years. Frankly, from your assertions, I'm beginning to think you use the word "Pagan" and "Occult" not as they actually mean, but simply as keywords for "Budge doesn't like them." If you would like to discuss these issues in greater depth, I await your convenience.[/quote] Not that I will believe half of what you say, Justin, Do discuss the state of the world in greater detail? My first question, what do you know about Nephilim? How about Queen Hephzibah? What do you know about the Mystery of Babylon? That's about it for now Justin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kujo Posted April 13, 2007 Share Posted April 13, 2007 [quote name='Budge' post='1240419' date='Apr 12 2007, 08:06 PM']What is wrong with praying for protection? I know Catholics are NOT taught spiritual warfare, many liberal ones in the pews dont even believe demons are real. I believe in spritiual warfare.[/quote] And here you have it folks...Budge's usual condescending, ignorant, generalized comment. Where in the Bible does it instruct us to be judgemental and crappy to our brother and sister? It must be in one of those trashy "The Word" or "The Message" or "The Monstrosity" or "The Perversion and Removal of Theological Depth of the Sacred Word of God" translations. Grow up, Budge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin (Wiccan) Posted April 13, 2007 Share Posted April 13, 2007 [quote name='FullTruth' post='1240474' date='Apr 12 2007, 08:56 PM']Not that I will believe half of what you say, Justin,[/quote] Of course not--after all, "everybody knows" that [url="http://earthstar.paganandchristianmoot.co.uk/apologia/apologia-1n.html"]Wiccans lie to cover their heinous activities[/url]. [quote]My first question, what do you know about Nephilim? How about Queen Hephzibah? What do you know about the Mystery of Babylon?[/quote] I know sufficient about all three for my purposes. I also know that a lot of hogwash has been propagated about all three, in both Christian and non-Christian circles. I am not here to discuss falsehoods, save to dispel them with truth. Will you hear the truth, or will you continue in the fantasies that you have heard from others? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akalyte Posted April 13, 2007 Share Posted April 13, 2007 (edited) [quote name='Budge' post='1240419' date='Apr 12 2007, 07:06 PM']What is wrong with praying for protection? I know Catholics are NOT taught spiritual warfare, many liberal ones in the pews dont even believe demons are real. I believe in spritiual warfare.[/quote] [url="http://www.oswc.org/"]http://www.oswc.org/[/url] You KNOW? Catholics are NOT taught spiritual warfare? are you sure you know that? We are now standing in the face of the greatest historical confrontation humanity has gone through. I do not think the wide circles of the American society, or wide circles of the Christian community, realize this fully. We are now facing the final confrontation between the Church and the anti-Church, of the Gospel versus the anti-Gospel. This confrontation lies within the plans of divine Providence; it is a trial which the whole Church…must take up." - Pope John Paul II, then Karol Cardinal Wojtyla, September 1976 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "There are two equal and opposite errors into which our race can fall about demons. One is to disbelieve in their existence. The other is to believe and to feel an excessive and unhealthy interest in them." - C.S. Lewis, The Screwtape Letters I claim the full victory that my Lord Jesus Christ won on the Cross for me. Having disarmed the powers and authorities, He made a public spectacle of them, triumphing over them by the cross" (Col. 2:15) His victory for me is my victory. In the name of the Lord Jesus Christ I renounce all the workings of Satan in my life in all its forms, whether brought into my life by my actions or by others. I break all attachments, ground, curses, spells, and rights Satan may have in my life whether such ground was gained through my actions or through others. Strengthened by the intercession of the Immaculate Virgin Mary, Mother of God, of Blessed Michael the Archangel, of the Blessed Apostles Peter and Paul, and all the Saints and Angels of Heaven, and powerful in the holy authority of the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, I ask you Lord to command Satan and all his minions, whomever they may be, to get out of my life and stay out. With that authority I now take back the ground in my life gained by Satan through my sins. I reclaim this ground and my life for Christ. I now dedicate myself to the Lord Jesus Christ; I belong to Him alone. Amen. [url="http://www.catholicwarriors.com/pages/warfare_prayers.htm"]http://www.catholicwarriors.com/pages/warfare_prayers.htm[/url] What the Church Says The "Catechism of the Catholic Church" deals with this subject in the section on the first commandment (You Shall Have No Other Gods Before Me) under the title "Divination and Magic." 2115. God can reveal the future to his prophets or to other saints. Still, a sound Christian attitude consists in putting oneself confidently into the hands of Providence for whatever concerns the future, and giving up all unhealthy curiosity about it. Improvidence, however, can constitute a lack of responsibility. 2116. All forms of divination are to be rejected: recourse to Satan or demons, conjuring up the dead or other practices falsely supposed to 'unveil' the future.[Cf. Deut 18:10 ; Jer 29:8 .] Consulting horoscopes, astrology, palm reading, interpretation of omens and lots, the phenomena of clairvoyance, and recourse to mediums all conceal a desire for power over time, history, and, in the last analysis, other human beings, as well as a wish to conciliate hidden powers. They contradict the honor, respect, and loving fear that we owe to God alone. 2117. All practices of magic or sorcery, by which one attempts to tame occult powers, so as to place them at one's service and have a supernatural power over others - even if this were for the sake of restoring their health - are gravely contrary to the virtue of religion. These practices are even more to be condemned when accompanied by the intention of harming someone, or when they have recourse to the intervention of demons. Wearing charms is also reprehensible. Spiritism often implies divination or magical practices; the Church for her part warns the faithful against it. Recourse to so-called traditional cures does not justify either the invocation of evil powers or the exploitation of another's credulity. Budge, you need to pray for a decrease in pride, because it's really showing... Edited April 13, 2007 by Akalyte Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Budge Posted April 13, 2007 Share Posted April 13, 2007 No youre not taught spiritual wafare. In fact if you got an evil spirit to deal with your church teaches you that you are to go look for a priest {an exorcist} that's if you can find one that doesnt refer you to a psychiatrist first. You are NOT taught how to cast out demons on an individual level, and the biblical insturctions for doing so are simply ignored and considered as only being for the "experts" or for the priest to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest T-Bone Posted April 13, 2007 Share Posted April 13, 2007 Budge, you just keep digging yourself deeper and deeper. No amount of lies will get you out of this hole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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