Editing My Lyrics

[Akalyte]

I decided im not going to edit my lyrics for anyone..If ya think its too harsh, you should read how some of the saints talked and wrote. If you think love is all mushy and soft your dead wrong. Especially now a days people need a cold slap in the face not a table spoon of honey. The bible says a Father does not love his child if he doesnt discipline him. i'm not saying im a father, but i believe there is a time and a season for everything. Some examples

St. John the Baptist calls the Pharisees a "race of vipers"; Jesus Christ, Our Divine Saviour, hurls at them the epithets "hypocrites, whitened sepulchres, a perverse and adulterous generation," without thinking for this reason that He sullies the sanctity of His benevolent speech. St. Paul criticizes the schismatic Cretians as "always liars, evil beasts, slothful bellies." The same Apostle calls Elymas the magician a "Seducer, full of guile and deceit, a child of the devil, an enemy of all justice."

The pacific St. Thomas of Acquin [Aquinas] forgets the calm of his cold syllogisms when he hurls his violent apostrophe against William of St. Amour and his disciples: "Enemies of God" he cries out, "ministers of the devil, members of antichrist, ignorami, perverts, reprobates!" Never did the illustrious Louis Veuillot speak so boldly. The seraphic St. Bonaventure, so full of sweetness, overwhelms his adversary Gerard with such epithets as "impudent, calumniator, spirit of malice, impious, shameless, ignorant, impostor, malefactor, perfidious, ingrate!"

[ReinnieR]

[quote name='Akalyte' post='1234161' date='Apr 7 2007, 10:54 PM']I decided im not going to edit my lyrics for anyone..If ya think its too harsh, you should read how some of the saints talked and wrote. If you think love is all mushy and soft your dead wrong. Especially now a days people need a cold slap in the face not a table spoon of honey. The bible says a Father does not love his child if he doesnt discipline him. i'm not saying im a father, but i believe there is a time and a season for everything. Some examples

St. John the Baptist calls the Pharisees a "race of vipers"; Jesus Christ, Our Divine Saviour, hurls at them the epithets "hypocrites, whitened sepulchres, a perverse and adulterous generation," without thinking for this reason that He sullies the sanctity of His benevolent speech. St. Paul criticizes the schismatic Cretians as "always liars, evil beasts, slothful bellies." The same Apostle calls Elymas the magician a "Seducer, full of guile and deceit, a child of the devil, an enemy of all justice."

The pacific St. Thomas of Acquin [Aquinas] forgets the calm of his cold syllogisms when he hurls his violent apostrophe against William of St. Amour and his disciples: "Enemies of God" he cries out, "ministers of the devil, members of antichrist, ignorami, perverts, reprobates!" Never did the illustrious Louis Veuillot speak so boldly. The seraphic St. Bonaventure, so full of sweetness, overwhelms his adversary Gerard with such epithets as "impudent, calumniator, spirit of malice, impious, shameless, ignorant, impostor, malefactor, perfidious, ingrate!"[/quote]
I love your lyrics man.

i don't think you're harsh at all.

[cplus]

You rawk! I totally agree with you.

[inDEED]

Honestly, here is my thought...

1. It all depends on where you feel that our Lord is calling your ministry.
2. Know that even though you may choose to that "cold slap" in your listener's face, you may, in turn, get a cold slap back.
3. Know also that, even though you've chosen to take an aggressive and direct approach to evangelatization, there are other methods out there that can be just as effective if not more.
4. Your pride must never overshadow your true purpose - proclaiming the Gospel.

My .02 cents...

[Akalyte]

I'm just following in the footsteps of the saints..I try to stray away from pride as much as possible. I think think today's world needs some discipline, it needs the cold hard truth. We need to be even bolder now a days. There are far too many enemies of God.

[dUSt]

If this is in reply to your song with Miko, I don't think the issue was with the content or the message. It was simply changing your "our" to a "my", making it more of a personal message. Miko's verses were very personal to his own journey, so my suggestions were only meant to make it mold better with his verses.

Also, as an artist, I would think that when you work with other people, especially when it is for that other person's album, you would expect to try and fit the theme or vision that they are going for in that song. If I was making a song about macaroni and coagulated milk, and wanted you to be on it, I wouldn't want you to rap about abortion. Extreme example, I know.

[inDEED]

I am *slightly* familiar with the incidence that dUSt is addressing...

However, I suppose my real point is just making sure that, as an artist with a specific intention in your music, if you're trying to reach any audience, you recognize that the material you're creating may not necessarily draw those that are "outside" - "in".

You may feel that your "cold slap" is what "needs" to be felt - but I gotta be honest with you bro, it kinda turns me off. And I'm a practicing Catholic.

I would really just like to see a project that tells me more about YOU as an emcee and YOUR walk - as opposed to a catechetical lesson.

Once again, bro - just my .02 cents.

[Akalyte]

[quote name='dUSt' post='1238678' date='Apr 11 2007, 11:13 AM']If this is in reply to your song with Miko, I don't think the issue was with the content or the message. It was simply changing your "our" to a "my", making it more of a personal message. Miko's verses were very personal to his own journey, so my suggestions were only meant to make it mold better with his verses.

Also, as an artist, I would think that when you work with other people, especially when it is for that other person's album, you would expect to try and fit the theme or vision that they are going for in that song. If I was making a song about macaroni and coagulated milk, and wanted you to be on it, I wouldn't want you to rap about abortion. Extreme example, I know.[/quote]

It had nothing to do with the track with miko. But i was working on a song about modesty with Zealous and he told me that some
of the things i said were harsh and those who heard the sample i gave him said it was harsh. Not only that i get complaints allover. I'm just saying i'm
not watering down my lyrics like liberals water down catholicism. Thanks for the responses..Indeed yeah i like to listen to those personal walk songs, but I dont want to rap about myself. I did couple songs about my conversion, thats as far as ill go.

[inDEED]

[quote name='Akalyte' post='1239015' date='Apr 11 2007, 02:40 PM']Indeed yeah i like to listen to those personal walk songs, but I dont want to rap about myself. I did couple songs about my conversion, thats as far as ill go.[/quote]

I completely respect your decision, bro. After all - it's your creation!:-)

All I'm saying is that, in my experiences with evangelazation & hip hop - it's the *personal* experience that draws me in. I can visit phatmass.com, pick up a catechism, read through Scripture, etc. if I want lessons from a straight-forward "doctrinal" perspective.

However, when I decide to put on my headphones and listen to what ANY emcee is offering - I want to hear YOUR experiences - something I can't get from phatmass.com, a catechism, or Scripture.

You know?

Either way - You are a VERY talented MUSICIAN - emcee, producer - the whole nine. It is obvious that you have the talent and skill to touch a lot of hearts & minds.

[dUSt]

[quote name='Akalyte' post='1239015' date='Apr 11 2007, 05:40 PM']It had nothing to do with the track with miko. But i was working on a song about modesty with Zealous and he told me that some
of the things i said were harsh and those who heard the sample i gave him said it was harsh. Not only that i get complaints allover. I'm just saying i'm
not watering down my lyrics like liberals water down catholicism. Thanks for the responses..Indeed yeah i like to listen to those personal walk songs, but I dont want to rap about myself. I did couple songs about my conversion, thats as far as ill go.[/quote]
Oh, yeah, I agree. Don't water down. haha

I do think you should do more personal songs though. Look at St Augustine's Confessions. Very personal, and has helped millions get closer to God.

Or... instead of writing about yourself, how about tell a story about someone else, or a made-up character? Anything that will help the listener relate a real person to their own life and experiences. It's all about being able to reach people in a way that they can relate to.

[the Apologist]

Man, you know i dig your style. Your style represents hard core Catholic hip hop. Trust me, you have an audience.... so no need to change up your style... Just make sure that your hard words ARE correct as i was in the opinion that i was not in agreement with the one line in the song with Zealous. But to insure that you need to run it by a priest i think.

But other than that, your stuff is tight. Dude, "Goodbye Good men" was ill!

For example... i've been told by people who i let listen to "Word of God" that is is off the chain! I mean, where else can you go to get so much doctrinal teachings? That's the beauty of rap; it is a great teaching tool.

Yeah some people can go read up on it themselves like inDEED says, but still some people do like to bump that in their car or headphones. Trust me, i know a lot of people who dig that.

Yeah, you know i like to do stories in my songs. But that is my style. I don't know if people like my stuff that much or not, but i know people like your stuff. It is VERY hard to write the way you do. Some people like to teach in their songs. Nas does that a lot, although he often teaches things are are errors. But still, that is why Nas is a legend, because he does it with such finesse Then there are those who like Jay-Z who in my opinion is a waste of time. All he does is talk about himself and brag and has a big ego; or he talks about nonsense-pimping, etc. Yet people like him a lot because they can party to his songs; his stuff is fun. I think it is all about style... that's all.

That's why i think our collaboration will be tight because i think we could bring the best of two worlds together- i like to do the story telling light stuff (though you know i can give "cold slaps" too) and you can get down with the doctrine which i personally love!

Oh and by the way, people say they like the story telling that i do... but as for the response from my last album, people seem to like the most "Barren Walls" and that is a straight up "cold slap" song. And i wrote that song with you in mind: "This is the Apologist flipping it Akalyte style fa ya head bro!"

h:idontknow: he he he... go figure!

[Dj 86]

For the record, I saw nothing wrong with the lyrics for "Victory". I really dig the og lyrics bro...I told you that.

[dUSt]

Yeah, I liked your lyrics on Victory too man. I was just trying to suggest something to make both you and Miko happy. haha

I'm not sure that I heard your lyrics to Zealous' song, do you mind posting them?

[Akalyte]

WWMD, what would Mary do? She wouldn’t wear them jeans
Low cut opposed to purity, occasion of sin surely for men cant you see?
That You got em tripping over their feet, to take a peak
you need to stop being Sigmund Freud’s freak

Girl you just achieved, a pervert’s vision and dream
Shining’s not about what you see on TV
Besides being dirty aint the best way to gleam
all that shines, aint always what it seems

you understand surely, I think you know I mean
you get together with the girls, who all act and think alike
your living life to the fullest, your gonna have some drinks tonight
your going clubbin’ dressed an outfit not fit for public

acting a fool and bad mouthing, very lady like
try some modesty and self respect
because your more than a sex symbol and object
a daughter of God, which means you need to stop it

Grow up, if you’re single, then join a convent
If your relationships fail and heartbreak is constant
It’s just a sign and alarm you need to drop it
If you’re a wife, trust me, your husband doesn’t want it
(respect that)




Straight up, beauty’s more than short skirts and make up
Revealing shirts, promiscuity and shaking butts
Why would you wanna be a reason, for the raise in lust
Asking questions like why do men behave like muts

Wake up, both sexes are confused now a days
Real men love Jesus, Real men don’t play
Real men don’t belong to “a game”
Real women look to Mother Mary, not Beyonce


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Edited April 14, 2007 by Akalyte

[Lounge Daddy]

this is why I dig it that my kids listen to your art, my man.
I listen
my wife and my brothers listen

[b]this is how the greatest Saints and Popes took the truth to our brothers and sisters.
up-front.
no toying around.
like St. John of the Cross - radical fanatical and with no apology[/b]

you are a great role model.
don't doubt, hard core is the best way to bring the Gospel.
esp in today's world.

God bless