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[the lords sheep]

[quote name='fearundercontrol' post='1249282' date='Apr 19 2007, 02:56 PM']What do CMSWR and LCWR stand for??[/quote]

CMSWR is the Council of Major Superiors of Women Religious of the USA, and LCWR is the Leadership Conference of Women Religious.

Each group has different qualifications to belong, and while I believe there are a few communities who belong to both, for the most part the orders are in either one or the other. The biggest difference (at least as far as I know) is that ALL the CMSWR Sisters wear habits...

Have a great day!

In Jesus and Mary,
Lauren

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[quote name='jkaands' post='1243199' date='Apr 15 2007, 08:28 AM']. <<They turn them into places that are not hardly an image of how they were created to be. Ones that turn to a bunch of raiki, tai chi, ect...crazy stuff. >>
I swear the darnest stuff turns up on this forum...

Here's something about reiki:

[url="http://www.reiki.org/FAQ/WhatIsReiki.html"]http://www.reiki.org/FAQ/WhatIsReiki.html[/url]

I don't know anything about it directly--ie I haven't studied it or done it , but it doesn't sounds as if there's anything "crazy" about it.

As for tai chi, which I have done, this is an ancient well-respected mode of Chinese movement, exercise, meditation and relaxation, which is especially useful for older people and those recovering from physical trauma, stress, surgery, etc. Again, nothing 'crazy' about it![/quote]

I had a friend who became a "Reiki Master". She would place her hands above the person and "adjust their energy" to heal them. She was a good and loving person herself but...

in the Reiki method, there is no acknowlegement of God as the source of all things, and in my opinion, the techniques are an opening for the angel of darkness to enter a person through pride and self-will. It reminds me of magic (whether "white" or "black") in that it presumes that power comes from the individual - not from God. Pride was the damning sin of Lucifer, and I would avoid anything that opened up doors to this sin.

[Veritas]

[quote name='Incarnate Word Postulant' post='1239760' date='Apr 12 2007, 08:50 AM']It makes me sad to hear the negative comments about Sisters in the LCWR...thre are many communities who are faithful to the Church, habit or no habit. I try to understand but I just don't get why we have to use this phorum to put down every LCWR Sister. We can not see into the hearts of others. Let's leave that to God, instead let's strive for holiness, compassion and a radical living of the Gospel.[/quote]

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The fact is, the LCWR has made and continues to make CORPORATE statements (look through the website), in direct defiance of the teaching of the Pope and the Magisterium. There is no way, I would be a part of the LCWR or a LCWR affiliated community because I know where my allegience ultimately lies -to Christ and the Church HE established. I posit that a self-respecting religious community would remove themselves from supporting the LCWR and their anti-Catholic agendas. Furthermore, the LCWR since it's inception, has been in open defiance of the hierarchy. Not very pretty for a group of women vowing obedience. Now, I know there are individual exceptions within communities, but corporately, LCWR communities are showing a disgraceful amount of dissent. I realize that many of these sisters have good intentions, but frankly, it's just not enough.

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Edited April 21, 2007 by Veritas

[Veritas]

[quote name='jkaands' post='1241860' date='Apr 13 2007, 04:34 PM']There is nothing wrong whatsoever with the SMME, nashville Dominicans or DC's. But there are a lot of other good orders out there as well, many without either habits or a feminist agenda.[/quote]

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You forget that the habit was called for by the Holy Father.

[Veritas]

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Let me tell you about the non-habited LCWR sisters in my diocese:

They sponsor the "NEW WAYS" conference, which is totally heretical
They host the V-Monologues, which is an affront to modesty, decency, and women's dignity
They sponsor pro- GLBT events on their campuses and parishes
They support women's "ordination" on their campuses and parishes
They advocate abortion
They support contraception on their campuses
They persist in liturgical abuses like giving homilies
They supress Eucharistic Adoration
The speak-out publically against the bishop, pope, and magisterium
They incite dissent
They laugh in the face of their disobedience

Do these sound like good religious sisters to you?

They are the Sisters of Saint Joseph of Carondelet
The Sisters of Saint Benedict of Saint Benedict Monastery in Maplewood, MN
The Sisters of Saint Benedict of the College of Saint Benedict
The Franciscan Sisters of Perpetual Adoration in LaCrosse, WI
The Franciscan Sisters of Little Falls
Others

In my extensive experience, faithful LCWR sisters are the EXCEPTION, not, the rule. This is a horrific sadness and a travesty. But let us call things by their proper names. Innocent young women should not be ignorant of the agendas of these communities and that is why I am naming them above. They are well-developed, extensive, and heretical. Again, they have "good intentions" in their disobedience, but this is not enough. Ill-formed consciences are not an excuse when one does not do the proper work to form them. Ultimately, we must defer to the teachings of the Church! Let us pray for a return to authentic religious life in the vein of CMSWR communities.

In an English interview given in 2003, Pope Benedict, then Josef Cardinal Ratzinger, Prefect of the Congregation of Divine Faith, stated the greatest danger to the Church today: Becoming merely a social institution. In other words, it is good to provide the corporal works of mercy, but it is not enough to merit the carte blanche acceptance of the LCWR and its members.

Edited April 21, 2007 by Veritas

[Veritas]

[quote name='jkaands' post='1243199' date='Apr 14 2007, 07:28 PM']. <<They turn them into places that are not hardly an image of how they were created to be. Ones that turn to a bunch of raiki, tai chi, ect...crazy stuff. >>
I swear the darnest stuff turns up on this forum...

Here's something about reiki:

[url="http://www.reiki.org/FAQ/WhatIsReiki.html"]http://www.reiki.org/FAQ/WhatIsReiki.html[/url]

I don't know anything about it directly--ie I haven't studied it or done it , but it doesn't sounds as if there's anything "crazy" about it.

As for tai chi, which I have done, this is an ancient well-respected mode of Chinese movement, exercise, meditation and relaxation, which is especially useful for older people and those recovering from physical trauma, stress, surgery, etc. Again, nothing 'crazy' about it![/quote]

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They are playing with paganism and the occult. You will see below, why it is not acceptable. This holds true for Reiki and tai chi for the same reasons.

Q: Is the practice of reiki morally wrong? A relative is starting to become involved and I am concerned for her.


A: Reiki is not a Christian religious practice. It is from Japanese Buddhism and involves non-Christian religious principles (e.g., moving around one's life energy or ki-the ki in reiki). The practice of reiki is not consonant with Catholic spirituality.


~ [url="http://www.catholic.com/thisrock/2001/0107qq.asp"]http://www.catholic.com/thisrock/2001/0107qq.asp[/url]

Further:
More Evasive Than Informative

Your "Quick Questions" answers are usually delightfully informative, but some answers in the July-August 2001 issue were simply "non-answers"—more evasive than informative.

Examples: 1) Reiki "involves non-Christian religious principles" such as manipulating life energy and is "not consonant with Christian spirituality." That is a non-answer. (The real answer is far more complex).

2) The answer to the yoga question (for exercise, yes; for Hindu spirituality, no) states, again in reference to bodily energy manipulation, that it is "not appropriate for Catholics." This too is a non-answer, leaving a dangling "Why not?"

Fr. John H. Hampsch, C.M.F.
Los Angeles, California

Editor’s reply: We thought the incompatibility of Catholic thought and the idea of manipulating "life energy" was obvious, but the details can be spelled out.

Christian anthropology holds that man is a union of body and soul such that the soul is the essential form of the body (a point infallibly defined by the Council of Vienna). The soul is a substantial form, not a type of energy. The Catechism points out that "it is because of its spiritual soul that the body made of matter becomes a living, human body" (CCC 365). From a spiritual perspective, it is the soul that is the life-principle of the body, not something else.

Consequently, there is no spiritual "life energy" animating the body. Any energy used as part of the body’s operations—such as the electricity in our nervous systems—is material in nature, not spiritual. The various forms of Hinduism and Buddhism that posit the existence of a life energy (ki or kundalini) interpret that energy as spiritual. Since this is contrary to Christian theology, it is inappropriate for Christians to participate in activities based on this belief.

~ [url="http://www.catholic.com/thisrock/2001/0110ltrs.asp"]http://www.catholic.com/thisrock/2001/0110ltrs.asp[/url]

Edited April 21, 2007 by Veritas

[EJames]

[quote name='johnnydigit' post='1243782' date='Apr 14 2007, 08:34 PM']k so i'm new here, but is it me or are there mostly girls here? anyone know the statistics for girls vs. guys in discernment?

anywho, some interesting stats - recently i heard that of all the available exorcists in the US (i forget the total. 20 something?), 100% of them are over the age of 70. <insert sarcastic joke here>. one of the reasons is it takes many, many years and tons of training to become a qualified exorcist.
also there are like 100 something exorcists working directly for Rome worldwide. i heard the preceding from one of them..[/quote]

interesting, there are 2 great books written by the chief Exorcist in Rome- Fr.Gabriele Amorth , very interesting books,look up in Amazon
I know in Canada, we have 2 in the whole country, one Bishop of the Capital saying we no longer need such Priests(after the LAST one retired) in the modern age...amazing!
The Franciscani though, such as the [url="http://ejvideo-place.blogspot.com/2007/02/frati-minori-rinnovati-at-naplesnapoli.html"]Frati Minori Rinnovati[/url]- linked also below-, are charged in Palermo and Naples, Italy, with formation, training, teaching, conferences for future/current Exorcists in Italy.they obviously have St padre Pio as Patron. the Frati Francescani Minori Rinnovati Priests are also principal Exorcists in those Diocese.and they are all young, as well the last Conference in Palermo was well attended by many young Priests sent by their Bishops.
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Edited April 21, 2007 by EJames

[Veritas]

[quote name='Veritas' post='1251375' date='Apr 21 2007, 09:58 AM']+

You forget that the habit was called for by the Holy Father.

Perhaps a helpful discussion: [url="http://forums.catholic.com/showthread.php?t=40391&page=5"]http://forums.catholic.com/showthread.php?t=40391&page=5[/url][/quote]

[Sanvean]

[quote name='EJames' post='1251477' date='Apr 21 2007, 11:53 AM']I know in Canada, we have 2 in the whole country, one Bishop of the Capital saying we no longer need such Priests(after the LAST one retired) in the modern age...amazing![/quote]

Are you certain about that? A priest I know once told me that, even here in Canada, every Diocese has an exorcist, and he was quite good friends with the exorcist for our Diocese.

[Veritas]

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Oh, and yes there are classes for exorcists in Rome. They are either at Santa Croce or at one of the schools near San Giovanni in Laterano, but I can't remember which off the top of my head. Oh, one other point of interest -the Pope's main exorcist has said that the Enemy fears Latin.

[Veritas]

[quote name='csj' post='1237725' date='Apr 10 2007, 12:34 PM']Just curious, why? Don't you think it's beautiful to have different types of religious congregations available so we can all find our place to live our gospel call? Why would the LCWR make you want to cry?[/quote]

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Because corporately and often individually, they are disobedient dissidents inciting rebellion against the Church.

[b]For example, the infamous Joan Chittister gave the KEYNOTE address for the 2006 LCWR assembly.[/b]

[url="http://www.lcwr.org/lcwrannualassembly/previousassemblies.htm"]http://www.lcwr.org/lcwrannualassembly/pre...sassemblies.htm[/url]

Does that sound like a responsible, prudent, or wise council of religious women? I think not.

Edited April 21, 2007 by Veritas

[cathoholic_anonymous]

The biggest Catholic bookshop in our diocese has several copies of a book by Joan Chittister in stock. I am going to write to the manageress of the shop to warn her. It's possible that the book was ordered in without the manageress realising exactly what it is.

Then again, it is also possible that the biggest Catholic bookshop in our diocese supports Joan Chittister...help.