Thy Geekdom Come Posted April 12, 2007 Share Posted April 12, 2007 [quote name='Budge' post='1239792' date='Apr 12 2007, 08:56 AM']The inverse is true as well, simply saying Catholicism is true does not make it so.[/quote] True, but we have shown repeatedly that Catholicism is the faith of Jesus Christ and you have not shown otherwise. God bless, Micah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Budge Posted April 12, 2007 Author Share Posted April 12, 2007 Ive posted as much scripture as I can on this board. I cant MAKE You "see" just plant seeds. Jhn 12:48 He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest T-Bone Posted April 12, 2007 Share Posted April 12, 2007 Budge- You are the one rejected the bride of Christ, the one true Church. I urge you to reject your prideful ways, humble yourself, and come home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Budge Posted April 13, 2007 Author Share Posted April 13, 2007 You mean well but sorry its not going to happen... I'm already in the ekkelsia and thats where I should be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Socrates Posted April 13, 2007 Share Posted April 13, 2007 [quote name='Budge' post='1240518' date='Apr 12 2007, 07:52 PM']You mean well but sorry its not going to happen... I'm already in the ekkelsia and thats where I should be.[/quote] "Ekkelsia" - now is that one of them big, fancy, highfallootin' Greek words Bible-beleivin' Christians is supposed to reject as "vain Babble"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmotherofpirl Posted April 13, 2007 Share Posted April 13, 2007 [quote name='Budge' post='1240424' date='Apr 12 2007, 08:10 PM']Ive posted as much scripture as I can on this board. I cant MAKE You "see" just plant seeds. Jhn 12:48 He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.[/quote] lol, even the devil quotes scripture.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Budge Posted April 13, 2007 Author Share Posted April 13, 2007 [quote]"Ekkelsia" - now is that one of them big, fancy, highfallootin' Greek words Bible-beleivin' Christians is supposed to reject as "vain Babble"? rolleyes.gif[/quote] Its actually in the BIble... and it isnt a made up word with the MYSTICAL attached... {Imagine that!} Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Socrates Posted April 13, 2007 Share Posted April 13, 2007 [quote name='Budge' post='1240541' date='Apr 12 2007, 08:10 PM']Its actually in the BIble... and it isnt a made up word with the MYSTICAL attached... {Imagine that!} [/quote] So we're not allowed to use any words not in the Bible? Where's it say that in the Bible? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thy Geekdom Come Posted April 13, 2007 Share Posted April 13, 2007 [quote name='Budge' post='1240424' date='Apr 12 2007, 06:10 PM']Ive posted as much scripture as I can on this board. I cant MAKE You "see" just plant seeds. Jhn 12:48 He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.[/quote] Budge, claiming that we're just being stubborn against the overwhelming force of your arguments and then quoting a Scripture that could just as easily apply to you is nothing more than keeping your mind closed to significant and meaningful arguments against you. The first sign of falsehood is that you defend it by accusing the other person rather than by addressing objections. [quote name='Budge' post='1240518' date='Apr 12 2007, 07:52 PM']You mean well but sorry its not going to happen... I'm already in the ekkelsia and thats where I should be.[/quote] Good, then since you've been called out, maybe you can call us out by answering our objections instead of dodging them. [quote name='Budge' post='1240541' date='Apr 12 2007, 08:10 PM']Its actually in the BIble... and it isnt a made up word with the MYSTICAL attached... {Imagine that!} [/quote] Anamnesis is not a made up word. It's the word used in the original Greek of the Gospel of Luke, chapter 22, verse 19: "kai labon arton eucaristhsas eklasen kai edoken autois legon, touto estin to soma mou to uper umon didomenon: touto poieite eis ten emen [b]anamnesin[/b]" So, it's also actually in the Bible. God bless, Micah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Budge Posted April 13, 2007 Author Share Posted April 13, 2007 You LEFT MYSTICAL out... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmotherofpirl Posted April 13, 2007 Share Posted April 13, 2007 [quote name='Budge' post='1241338' date='Apr 13 2007, 10:24 AM']You LEFT MYSTICAL out... [/quote] thats called an adjective..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thy Geekdom Come Posted April 13, 2007 Share Posted April 13, 2007 [quote name='Budge' post='1241338' date='Apr 13 2007, 08:24 AM']You LEFT MYSTICAL out... [/quote] Do I need to read your sentence back to you? You said made-up words with the word mystical attached. That means that the word mystical is attached to (anamnesis) you called made up. Don't try to shift focus. It's not made up. It's in the Bible just as much as ekklesia is in the Bible. Mystical is an adjective we use to help clarify what we mean by anamnesis. God bless, Micah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Budge Posted April 14, 2007 Author Share Posted April 14, 2007 [quote]364. anamnesis Search for G364 in KJVSL anamnhsiV anamnesis an-am'-nay-sis from 363; recollection:--remembrance (again). See Greek 363[/quote] I was wrong to say the word itself was made up...{should have been more specific, in what I meant} but the phrase mystical anamnesis, is DEFINITELY made up and the meaning even has been changed. There it is an REMEMBERANCE. They used it to make excuses for transubstiation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thy Geekdom Come Posted April 14, 2007 Share Posted April 14, 2007 [quote name='Budge' post='1243123' date='Apr 14 2007, 04:26 PM']I was wrong to say the word itself was made up...{should have been more specific, in what I meant} but the phrase mystical anamnesis, is DEFINITELY made up and the meaning even has been changed. There it is an REMEMBERANCE. They used it to make excuses for transubstiation.[/quote] Transubstantiation is related to anamnesis, but they are not the same thing. Anyway, as I've said, "mystical" is only added to the word "anamnesis" to help clarify it, not to confuse people. Anamnesis can mean a simple remembrance, but the nuance of it in ancient Greek was more than simple rememberence, but rather a sort of re-presentation in which someone could cooperate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Budge Posted April 14, 2007 Author Share Posted April 14, 2007 [quote]Transubstantiation is related to anamnesis, but they are not the same thing. Anyway, as I've said, "mystical" is only added to the word "anamnesis" to help clarify it, not to confuse people. Anamnesis can mean a simple remembrance, but the nuance of it in ancient Greek was more than simple rememberence, but rather a sort of re-presentation in which someone could cooperate.[/quote] My BIble Greek translator translates it as just rememberance and that translator gets very specific listing more then one word for definitions in many cases. Do you have anything to back up that "nuance" a link you can show me from a NON-Catholic translation of the Greek? As for clarifying things by adding MYSTICAL in front of them, come on the New Agers can make hash of the English language by overuse of that word. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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