kujo Posted March 17, 2007 Share Posted March 17, 2007 In light of [url="http://www.foxnews.com/wires/2007Mar14/0,4670,MilitaryGays,00.html"]General Peter Pace's comments this week[/url], I think this is a valid question. I'm not asking about your opinion of homosexuality because, frankly, I'm sure that most of us rally around our Holy Mother Church's stance. I'm asking whether or not it is fair, in your opinion, to exclude them from defending our country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FullTruth Posted March 17, 2007 Share Posted March 17, 2007 Put them in the front ranks, and let them get killed off first. After all, they're not going to reproduce anyways. J/king - I'm not that cruel! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N/A Gone Posted March 17, 2007 Share Posted March 17, 2007 Im just commenting so i will remeber later. Im a soldier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kujo Posted March 17, 2007 Author Share Posted March 17, 2007 [quote name='Revprodeji' post='1214810' date='Mar 17 2007, 01:03 AM']Im just commenting so i will remeber later. Im a soldier[/quote] I look forward to hearing your perspective. Thank you for your service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kujo Posted March 17, 2007 Author Share Posted March 17, 2007 [quote name='FullTruth' post='1214808' date='Mar 17 2007, 01:01 AM']Put them in the front ranks, and let them get killed off first. After all, they're not going to reproduce anyways. J/king - I'm not that cruel![/quote] Come on, brother. Love thy neighbor... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FullTruth Posted March 17, 2007 Share Posted March 17, 2007 [quote name='kujo' post='1214815' date='Mar 17 2007, 01:14 AM']Come on, brother. Love thy neighbor...[/quote] I know, it was a little over the top. I was just joking. With all the trials I go through, sometimes I need to just use the gift of stupidity and red neckness to just relax. When you have homosexual friends, like I do, you know homosexuals are [b]ordinary people who are in sin and need Jesus Christ[/b], just like [b]I am an ordinary person who is in sin and needs Jesus Christ[/b]. I dislike how many 'Christian' bigots will look at a good looking girl lustfully, and then say - At least I like girls. It always reminds me of those who say this is the least of sins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kujo Posted March 17, 2007 Author Share Posted March 17, 2007 [quote name='FullTruth' post='1214829' date='Mar 17 2007, 01:39 AM']I know, it was a little over the top. I was just joking. With all the trials I go through, sometimes I need to just use the gift of stupidity and red neckness to just relax. When you have homosexual friends, like I do, you know homosexuals are [b]ordinary people who are in sin and need Jesus Christ[/b], just like [b]I am an ordinary person who is in sin and needs Jesus Christ[/b]. I dislike how many 'Christian' bigots will look at a good looking girl lustfully, and then say - At least I like girls. It always reminds me of those who say this is the least of sins.[/quote] I hear ya on the humor bro. Just wanna keep the bigotry down... We all have our own brand of sin to overcome. We all have our own cross to bear. But what the heck does it have to do with our ability to serve our country? What if they said that that people who took the Lord's name in vain couldn't serve? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FullTruth Posted March 17, 2007 Share Posted March 17, 2007 [quote name='kujo' post='1214833' date='Mar 17 2007, 01:45 AM']I hear ya on the humor bro. Just wanna keep the bigotry down... We all have our own brand of sin to overcome. We all have our own cross to bear. But what the heck does it have to do with our ability to serve our country? What if they said that that people who took the Lord's name in vain couldn't serve?[/quote] My opinion is let them serve. I'm a Libertarian, which means I want very little government influence on our lives. What right does the military or government have to say a Homosexual can't serve? I find this really hypocritical, since most other militaries in the world, pre-Christian, and post-Christian, had homosexuals in them. If someone wants to live and die for their country, the government should give them that right, no matter what they do behind closed doors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RezaMikhaeil Posted March 17, 2007 Share Posted March 17, 2007 Being a former soldier, I don't have a problem with homosexuals in the military but its a difficult situation. The Military has a "dont ask don't tell" policy for homosexuality, but still it's difficult. I believe under the constititution of a free america, homosexuals have rights but its a difficult situation and a fine line between them throwing their sexuality in people's faces and just simply being like most non-gay people that don't flaunt their sexuality. Reza Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fixxxer Posted March 17, 2007 Share Posted March 17, 2007 [quote name='FullTruth' post='1214808' date='Mar 16 2007, 11:01 PM']Put them in the front ranks, and let them get killed off first. After all, they're not going to reproduce anyways. J/king - I'm not that cruel![/quote] Larry the cable guy said to let women, men and gays train together. In the time of war send in the men first, then every 27 days or so send in a squad of pissed off women, then send in the gays to clean up and put curtains up everywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FullTruth Posted March 17, 2007 Share Posted March 17, 2007 [quote name='Fixxxer' post='1214849' date='Mar 17 2007, 03:12 AM']Larry the cable guy said to let women, men and gays train together. In the time of war send in the men first, then every 27 days or so send in a squad of pissed off women, then send in the gays to clean up and put curtains up everywhere. [/quote] Opps, I've taken a serious thread, and I've made a mockery of it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desertwoman Posted March 17, 2007 Share Posted March 17, 2007 I've been saying that for years the military should send in women during our level 5 times. Any man is aware of the warning signs and they know that no amount of ammo, napalm, or nuclear weapons can stop this threat, and the only means of winning is escape. But I do think that its alright for homosexuals to be allowed into the military. Right now, they really don't care if you are gay or not. But they would advise you not to tell anyone else that you are gay because they can not insure your safety from other troops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thessalonian Posted March 17, 2007 Share Posted March 17, 2007 First of all let's narrow the question a bit. One who is practicing homosexuality should not any more than one who is committing adultery, which the military does punish. One who struggles with SSA should be allowed to serve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kujo Posted March 17, 2007 Author Share Posted March 17, 2007 [quote name='thessalonian' post='1214930' date='Mar 17 2007, 11:27 AM']First of all let's narrow the question a bit. One who is practicing homosexuality should not any more than one who is committing adultery, which the military does punish. One who struggles with SSA should be allowed to serve.[/quote] Playing devil's advocate here... To the homosexual, their relationship is not adulterous so long as it is monogamous. I would agree with the implication that homosexual relationships, in the moral and religious sense, are adulterous; however, I don't see how we can justify this in the secular world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffpugh Posted March 17, 2007 Share Posted March 17, 2007 I gave a null vote because I am Canadian. I just wanted to see the opinions of people I do not think it matters. Just as long as they don't go all rainbow on everyone and be 'proud' of their attraction. Also one thing that bugs me is how some people who defend SSA says 'my friend has it and they can't help being that way. They are born that way. It's not what they want'. I say it is a sort of rebellion but I get weird looks (maybe temptation is a better word). When I say that, some get out the tear jerking stories of how those with SSA have been abused and brutally killed over the centuries. I do not deny that. But I do not believe that they should be allowed to commit sinful acts. I have no offense against the person whatsoever. It's funny how atheistic our society is because once you mention SIN and the DEVIL and HELL people get all offended. Anywho if I were to vote I would say 'who cares?' because it is not really anyone's right to know (Except God). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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