Paladin Posted March 13, 2007 Share Posted March 13, 2007 [quote name='NewReformation' post='1213163' date='Mar 13 2007, 06:46 PM']I don't understand this thread.[/quote]Join the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Budge Posted March 14, 2007 Share Posted March 14, 2007 Sure there are Masons in the Prot churches, after all they are helping the apostasty along, with interfaithism for all. The Catholic church itself is totally infused with Freemasonary. Google P2 and Vatican. [url="http://www.cephasministry.com/freemasonry_knights_of_malta.html"]FREEMASONRY IN CATHOLICISM[/url] The Knights of Malta is just on another branch of Freemasonry as well as Knights of Columbus which requires oath taking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted March 14, 2007 Share Posted March 14, 2007 [quote name='Budge' post='1213228' date='Mar 13 2007, 08:57 PM']The Knights of Malta is just on another branch of Freemasonry as well as Knights of Columbus which requires oath taking.[/quote] Budge, that is a baldfaced lie, and you know it! The Knights of Columbus, especially, were formed partly to steer Catholics AWAY from Freemasonry! So they require oath-taking ... are judges, presidents, and other public officials Freemasons just because they happen to take oaths? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Socrates Posted March 14, 2007 Share Posted March 14, 2007 [quote name='Dave' post='1213236' date='Mar 13 2007, 08:06 PM']Budge, that is a baldfaced lie, and you know it! The Knights of Columbus, especially, were formed partly to steer Catholics AWAY from Freemasonry! So they require oath-taking ... are judges, presidents, and other public officials Freemasons just because they happen to take oaths?[/quote] C'mon Dave, how can you possibly question the credibility of Budge? And of course the Catholic Church is Masonic - [i]It says so on some guy's website[/i]! That is why the Church forbids membership in the Masons - it's one of their dirty little Papist tricks. Budge, on the other hand, can always be trusted, as All Knowledge hath been given unto her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Budge Posted March 14, 2007 Share Posted March 14, 2007 [img]http://www.cephasministry.com/masonic_structure_of_inverted.jpg[/img] The York Rite right on chart above includes the Knights of Malta. [img]http://www.smom-za.org/images/smomgm78_03.jpg[/img] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmotherofpirl Posted March 14, 2007 Share Posted March 14, 2007 [quote name='Budge' post='1213228' date='Mar 13 2007, 09:57 PM']Sure there are Masons in the Prot churches, after all they are helping the apostasty along, with interfaithism for all. The Catholic church itself is totally infused with Freemasonary. Google P2 and Vatican. [url="http://www.cephasministry.com/freemasonry_knights_of_malta.html"]FREEMASONRY IN CATHOLICISM[/url] The Knights of Malta is just on another branch of Freemasonry as well as Knights of Columbus which requires oath taking.[/quote] Remember Phatmass has Knights of Columbus here as members, and they will assure you that those are outright lies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Budge Posted March 14, 2007 Share Posted March 14, 2007 Dont KNights of Columbus have secret oaths? What is the difference between a fourth degree Knight of Columbus and the rest? Jesus taught let your "yes" be a yes and your "no" be a no. {Ill find the verse later} Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted March 14, 2007 Share Posted March 14, 2007 I'm a Knight of Columbus, and I can say that the only thing secret is the actual ceremonies -- for any degree. So Budge, would that mean elected officials sin by taking oaths -- including our president? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Budge Posted March 14, 2007 Share Posted March 14, 2007 [quote]I can say that the only thing secret is the actual ceremonies -- for any degree.[/quote] Why the need for secrecy? Luk 12:3 Therefore whatsoever ye have spoken in darkness shall be heard in the light; and that which ye have spoken in the ear in closets shall be proclaimed upon the housetops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmotherofpirl Posted March 14, 2007 Share Posted March 14, 2007 [quote name='Budge' post='1213442' date='Mar 14 2007, 10:23 AM']Why the need for secrecy? Luk 12:3 Therefore whatsoever ye have spoken in darkness shall be heard in the light; and that which ye have spoken in the ear in closets shall be proclaimed upon the housetops.[/quote] What is wrong with secrets? Luke is obviously not referring to this, he is referring to the proclamation of the Gospel. Jesus kept secrets as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Budge Posted March 14, 2007 Share Posted March 14, 2007 Are Christians supposed to keep secrets? Jesus was talking about things that only those with "eyes" {spiritual born again people} would be able to see. It is interesting that the fourth degree Knights of Columbus member must have secrets he cannot share even with his own wife. Exactly like the Masons, "secret" ceremonies that cannot be shared with anyone. The Mason swears upon their life I wonder what the Knights of Columbus member swears upon, what is their penalty for divulging the "secrets"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewReformation Posted March 14, 2007 Share Posted March 14, 2007 [quote name='Budge' post='1213481' date='Mar 14 2007, 10:21 AM']The Mason swears upon their life I wonder what the Knights of Columbus member swears upon, what is their penalty for divulging the "secrets"?[/quote] They have to read your posts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Budge Posted March 14, 2007 Share Posted March 14, 2007 So now youre taking up for the Knights of Columbus? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewReformation Posted March 14, 2007 Share Posted March 14, 2007 [quote name='Budge' post='1213549' date='Mar 14 2007, 11:34 AM']So now youre taking up for the Knights of Columbus?[/quote] No, nice try though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Budge Posted March 14, 2007 Share Posted March 14, 2007 So why are you upset at me then? I dont support secretive fraternal organizations. I believe they are not suited to Christians. Do you agree or disagree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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