Hannity And Fr. Etenauer

[isilzha]

[url="http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,258291,00.html"]Fr. Jonathan weighs in[/url]

[isilzha]

[url="http://spirit-and-life.blogspot.com/2007/03/hannity-liberal.html"]Fr. Euteneuer responds to all the commotion[/url]

[Maggyie]

I feel like Fr. Jonathan kind of punted.

[Mercy me]

[quote name='Nathan' post='1212288' date='Mar 11 2007, 08:02 PM']You're damned right I am. Richard John Neuhaus, George Weigel, Robert Novak, Peggy Noonan, (in recent years) Joseph Fessio... they're all the same. Their views warrant criticism. Just because they're more orthodox than liberal Catholics does not mean that they don't hold heretical views. All of them do; it's called Americanism and Zionism.[/quote]

As an citizen of the United States I take offense to your comments. May I suggest that you take a look at what is happening in your own yard. You might want to be careful throwing all those stones.

[rkwright]

Fr. J's response was weak and a bit disheartening. He makes the point that Fr. E should have been a bit more civil in his approach. Fine (maybe...) but Fr. J never once stood up for the Church teaching. He never once said 'Fr. E could have been nicer, but he is right.' Something tells me Fr. J was maybe 'prompted' to write that article a certain way to ensure Fox doesn't lose its Catholic conservative viewers? Maybe I'm jumping to conclusions but thats what it seemed like to me. Granted I don't know much about Fr. J...

I also read Fr. Eutenauers resposne. Incredible. This man is truly a light in this world. He reminds me of a John the Baptist; calling out the public officals for their wrongs.

[kujo]

I used to like Sean Hannity...

Now I think he's a...well, I don't think it would be wise for me to post the adjectives I feel at this time.

Perhaps this picture will be sufficient..

[img]http://members.shaw.ca/statistic/pictures/Donkey-4.jpg[/img]

[CrossCuT]

[quote name='kujo' post='1212720' date='Mar 12 2007, 08:07 PM']I used to like Sean Hannity...

Now I think he's a...well, I don't think it would be wise for me to post the adjectives I feel at this time.

Perhaps this picture will be sufficient..

[img]http://members.shaw.ca/statistic/pictures/Donkey-4.jpg[/img][/quote]
[size=1]I think that is a perfect picture.

All he did was yell.
The priest didnt even get a chance to say anything without being cut off.
I dont like Mr. Hannity either.
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[kujo]

[quote name='CrossCuT' post='1212848' date='Mar 12 2007, 11:47 PM'][size=1]I think that is a perfect picture.

All he did was yell.
The priest didnt even get a chance to say anything without being cut off.
I dont like Mr. Hannity either.
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Unfortunately, this is the sort of journalism that we have in our country now--there's no real investigation, just the rabid reciting of the same talking points by talking heads.

[rkwright]

This was Fr. Eutenauer's response to Fr. Morris's letter...

Dear Father Jonathan,

Your letter to Sean Hannity indicates that you did not know that I asked to speak to him in private about this matter in 2004 otherwise you may have tempered your remarks about my supposed lack of charity in dealing with a high profile Catholic who dissents from clearly-defined and reiterated Church teachings. [See “Fr. Euteneuer asks to meet with Hannity about birth control” on sidebar.] You also seemed to be unaware of the fact that Sean was the one who invited me on his program and who then promptly “[threw] civility to the wind,” refused to display “cultivated intelligence” on the issues and jeopardized another person’s “reputation and dignity.” May I also point out that you did not employ with me the same standard of “fraternal correction” that you expected me to employ with Mr. Hannity. I at least made the attempt to speak to him about this issue in private without success; you, in contrast, went immediately to the internet to take me to task. I do not intend to understand your motives; I can only evaluate what I see in your actions.

The question that comes to mind is an obvious one: if you are a Fox analyst on Catholic matters, wouldn’t you have been the one to have had those “private conversations” on birth control with Mr. Hannity? How about discussions on his abortion exceptions? When you told Sean “in person” that you “disagreed with him,” was it on the issue of birth control? If you had done that, I applaud you, but your powers of persuasion may need a little honing—Sean has only gotten more vocal on this issue over time. If you did not speak to him about his public dissent, then I ask you, “Why?” While we are on the subject, have you also analyzed and disagreed with Bill O’Reilly’s perfectly horrible disdain for the Holy Father and the Church that you represent?

The church sex abuse scandal was not just about homosexual and predatory priests. It was about clerical negligence and silence on issues that not only affect people’s souls but also ruin people’s lives. It is highly unusual that you or anyone else would want a priest to be silent on issues that affect the salvation of souls. We used to recognize “admonishing the sinner” as one of the Spiritual Works of Mercy, and I consider my admonishment of Mr. Hannity to have been done in that spirit. I might also add that in doing so I have fulfilled my duty as a priest which is a requirement for my salvation.

As a seminary rector, I would sincerely hope that you are not teaching by word or example the young men in your charge to be politically correct sissies who are afraid to roll up their sleeves and defend the Church in private and in public. We have tons of those types in the clergy already. I would advise you to drink deeply of the wisdom of the Number Two man at our Headquarters who has in no uncertain terms told all of us that high profile dissenters are a scourge and a danger to souls. [See item: “Bertone: Dissident Catholics More Worrying Than Atheists.” [url="http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2007/jan/07011003.html"]http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2007/jan/07011003.html[/url].]

I wish you fraternal blessings for your priestly work.

Sincerely,
Rev. Thomas J. Euteneuer
President
Human Life International


Found here [url="http://www.hli.org/article_open_letter_to_fr_morris.html"]http://www.hli.org/article_open_letter_to_fr_morris.html[/url]

[Maggyie]

Go Fr. Euteneuer!... but I think implying his fellow priest is a "politically correct sissy" was perhaps a bit harsh.

[aalpha1989]

i can't believe hannity was so rude to a priest....he was feeling defensive and was meaner to him than he was to some liberals on the program! yay for Fr. Euteneuer

[rkwright]

I'm on Hannity.com registered on thier forum. They are quick to silence any voice against Sean! All threads that have discussed this interview have been removed or locked down. I was warned for providing the link to hli.org! I used it to provide a 'cite' to show that Hannity had been contacted in private and BAM it gets taken out immediately.

Later someone posted the same link and the moderator stated this...

I JUST REMOVED that link from another post and left a warning and now you go and post the same link?
I'm sorry but GOOD CATHOLIC organizations don't go around making judgemental websites about other people and their faith. There is a whole lot more to Catholicism than being pro life. I'm staunchly pro life myself but there is a whole more to politics and choosing a good candidate other than their stance on abortion. Voting for a politician who may be pro choice does NOT make one a bad Catholic and anyone who says so should perhaps question their OWN faith.
And with that, because I can, I'm locking this thread.

[kujo]

Wonderful...now we've got priests trading verbal haymakers on their blogs.

[Ash Wednesday]

Good for Father Eutenauer. God bless this good and holy priest.

The whole "Judge not lest you be judged" has got to be the weakest thing to fall back on -- it really just means "I'm feeling really defensive right now and I can't think of anything else to say or any other way to refute what you've just said."

Hopefully Hannity will realize the point that Father Eutenauer is trying to make. It's pretty common to initially feel put off and offended when someone calls you on something but if you have any sense in your noggin, you seriously reflect on what they have said. I hope that Hannity does the same.

I wonder if Hannity has ever had a priest actually suggest he be denied communion? He seemed kinda shocked. I guess it's easy to somehow think that just because your whole family is Catholic and you went to Catholic schools, that somehow automatically makes you a "good Catholic" -- I imagine the idea of being denied communion is almost unheard of for a lot of cultural Catholics in recent times.

I guess Hannity and O'Reilly are living proof that it's not just political liberals that browse the cafeteria.

[Theoketos]

[quote name='Knight of the Holy Rosary' post='1211529' date='Mar 10 2007, 06:30 PM']I agree. In a nation where we call the murder of children 'choice', fornication 'free love', homosexual acts 'alternative lifestyles' and pornography 'freedom speech'... we may be able to defend ouselves from terrorism but there is [b]no[/b] defense against the wrath of Almighty God.[/quote]

I am using this quote in class today.