The "infilling" - Holy Spirit Activates Belief?

[Bruce S]

I'm reposting [without asking] a wonderful post from another site, so please forgive the transgression here. But this post really has some wonderful points for a topic.

[God Conquers]

Tongues is cool, when used proerly. It's certainly not necessary for faith or salvation tho.

[Bruce S]

You think the battles between Catholics and others on this board gets "rocky" from time to time?

Try being a Pentecostal on a mainline denomination discussion board!

One thing that really IS DIFFERENT, is that Protestants see no need to adhere to one doctrinal standard, so the discussion is really more like a discussion, instead of pendantic regurgitation sessions.

The Catholics here live in fear of being seen in public with differing opions.

Just a comment.

[PS: if you have ever attended Torah studies in a Synagogue, you would find it frightening....the Jewish mind thinks that God puts inconsistancies INSIDE of scripture, that definately make no sense, in order to baffle you, and keep your nose stuck inside study to figure out why. A Jewish classic, actually is a parallel one that we have used against YOU, and YOU back. That is the second commandment against graven images, and yet God instructing Cherubim on the Ark. If you want to really get into that little mind twister, get some Rabbi's discussing that little gem.

That is my GENTLE way of telling Catholics to get out a little and see what the other sandbox's are full of online....]

[cmotherofpirl]

Bruce protestants don't have a unified doctrinal standard to adhere to, so of course your discussions are only going to be opinon.

To have differing opinons on basic doctrine is to cease being Catholic.

[Paladin D]

The Catholics here live in fear of being seen in public with differing opions.

Oh really? I guess that Harry Potter thread doesn't exist...

(You should see the disagreements in there)

[willguy]

First off, I don't see what Bruce's second post here has to do with the price of apples in Denmark (something I stole from a teacher meaning anything to do with anything).

Secondly, on tounges. I think these verses get misinterpretted quite often. Several times, such as at Pentecost, the idea of "speaking in tounges" means "speaking in other human languages." While there are verses that they could mean speaking in a non-human language, these also speak of people interpretting. I have seen several people "pray in tounges," but no one ever interpret. Honestly, it just kind of bugs me. Pray in english (or whatever language you are comfortable praying in). Though I wouldn't doubt that many are sincere when they do it, others seem to be doing it for appearance or because everyone else is doing it.

Oh, and Pentecostals on a mainline Protestant boards don't hold a candle to Catholics on the same boards. They'll discuss with Pentecostals. Half the time they'll only spout off at Catholics. I've actually been told by a moderator of a site before that my views and opinions are not protected under the Terms of Service of the site because I am Catholic and basically, if they wanted to, they could delete my posts simply for defending Catholicism.

[phatcatholic]

I'm reposting [without asking] a wonderful post from another site, so please forgive the transgression here. But this post really has some wonderful points for a topic.

Tounges is important to me, and one of the VERY HARDEST doctrines to accept, do and use. It is so not like me, so....

What is the general thoughts here?

right off hand (w/o delving into the verses that were cited), my only area of contention w/ this article is the idea that Jesus was infilled w/ the Holy Spirit when he was baptized by John. it has always been my understanding that John's baptism is purely symbolic. afterall, it is often contrasted w/ the baptism that Jesus will provide for us all when he sends the Holy Spirit to be w/ his Church upon his resurrection and ascension into heaven. also, i understand why Jesus recieved the baptism of John, but i don't see why he would need an "infilling of the Holy Spirit."

just my thoughts.

pax christi,

phatcatholic

Edited January 25, 2004 by phatcatholic

[cmotherofpirl]

Jesus, being God, always had the Holy Spirit within Him. God is one nature with three Persons: God the Father, God the Son and the Holy Spirit. So Jesus didn't have to wait 30 years to recieve what he has had forever. THe only tthing Jesus has ever recieved was a human nature and body from His mum. THe divine Nature has always been.

John 1:1-3 In the beginning was the Word: and the Word was with God: and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by him: and without him was made nothing that was made.

[Bruce S]

I've actually been told by a moderator of a site before that my views and opinions are not protected under the Terms of Service of the site because I am Catholic and basically, if they wanted to, they could delete my posts simply for defending Catholicism.

Yep, wrong. I know the place, and disagree with that policy.

I too have been denied service on another large board, where the Catholic Church and Orthy's didn't want to engage, there it was wrong too.

That is one thing I actually admire about this board. Here ... basically, dissenters are allowed to voice an opinion, and with rare exceptions, they stand.