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[Azriel]

Boy, you weren't around here at Christmas time - were ya???

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[cmotherofpirl]

[quote name='Sacred Music Man' post='1207479' date='Mar 3 2007, 09:51 PM']Cmom, you have gone through 3 avatars now (in this day). I liked the second one. And where do Irish people get the idea that EVERYONE is Irish? hahaha. I have Welsh and Scottish roots apparently...[/quote]
rotfl which one was the second one?

[cmotherofpirl]

[quote name='Sacred Music Man' post='1207479' date='Mar 3 2007, 09:51 PM']Cmom, you have gone through 3 avatars now (in this day). I liked the second one. And where do Irish people get the idea that EVERYONE is Irish? hahaha. I have Welsh and Scottish roots apparently...[/quote]


Sigh, I guess only the lucky ones are irish
But considering your "coolness" there must be irish in ya somewhere....

[Apotheoun]

[quote name='Azriel' post='1207496' date='Mar 3 2007, 07:17 PM']Boy, you weren't around here at Christmas time - were ya???

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I was here, I just wasn't posting at that time.

Now, speaking as a former Protestant, I don't really pay much attention to what they think about such things anymore; just as I don't pay attention to Jehovah's Witnesses when they condemn celebrating birthdays.

[Apotheoun]

The snake avatar was fine. It was just an avatar after all.

[Budge]

IF someone uses a Pentagram avatar, are some of you going to be ok with that?

Just wondering.

I was glad that cmother, did listen to my concerns.

[quote]sn't everyone Irish???[/quote]hehehe ive heard that, I used to claim I was Irish until I sat down and figured out it was only ONE great-grandparent out of 8.

Guess lot of people do claim to be.l...

Thanks Urib for sharing the info you have on this.
Considering that Satan is related to serpents I dont think ay Christian would want a snake avatar!
[quote]
I'm a born again Christian (non denominational). I just follow Yeshua and
the Bible. I also used to be a Catholic (18 years).
Someone actually thought I was you in the past because of some of my
postings.[/quote]

Hehehehe, that happens sometimes.

Praise God you were saved out of Catholic church.

I was a cradle Catholic, and then became Unitarian Universalist at age 18 and was that for most of my young adult hood, I was into Theosophy too..humanism, paganism, UUs mix religions and satanic philosophies together all at once. Came out of the UU, back to Catholic [what I knew] but wasnt saved yet. Realized the similiarties of what I was taught in the UU what the Catholic Church was teaching via its interfaith movement and mroe. Studying BIble and came to salvation {there is enough even in the Catholic Church bad Bible translations to bring a person to true salvation] and I started asking questions about why what I was taught in the Catholic church didnt match the Bible I was reading.

So when I warn the catholics here of the occult, I was in it first hand.

[quote]
Just because it's used in the occult, doesn't mean that it is by nature an occult symbol. The swastika is most famous because it was the symbol of nazi Germany, however, it was a popular American Indian symbol first. It is still used in some American Indian traditions as well. Remember, it is not the symbol, or the action, or the words said, but the intent behind it that is important.[/quote]Sure the swatiska is all over the world, it is related to SUN WORSHIP, which to be honest with you is one of the false premises of false religion throughout the world...worship of creation instead of Creator. Even the Tibetan Buddhists use the swastika. I have studied all the religions of the world and on one thing they stand apart from true Christianity is this SUN WORSHIP. SUN WORSHIP FORMS THE CORE COMPONENT OF MYSTERY BABYLON.
I did a thread here acouple years ago on that maybe Ill dig it up and bump it.
[quote]


You're working so hard to delve out the wolf in sheep's clothing that you're trying to slay sheep to find it.[/quote]

No I'm warning people of stuff I knew of first hand.

Witches love that symbol. I am sure cmother just didnt know.

[Urib2007]

[quote name='Revprodeji' post='1207437' date='Mar 3 2007, 05:33 PM']Budge are you gonna tell me that mine is satanic also? You know that "t" shaped thing in your avatar is an ancient Persian/babylon torture.[/quote]

Well, I do like most of your pictures on your avatar. However, there's one that is occultic. It's called a mobius.

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Symbols are used throughout the occult. Harpers' Encyclopedia of Mystical & Paranormal Experience (p.594) says, [b]"Symbols are important to all esoteric teachings, for they contain secret wisdom accessible only to the initiated."
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Thomas Nelson Publishers (publishers of the NKJV) claim, on the inside-cover, the symbol, ". . .is an ancient symbol for the Trinity." But Acts 17:29, clearly FORBIDS such symbology: ". . . we ought NOT to think that the Godhead is like unto gold, or silver, or stone, GRAVEN BY ART and man's device."

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And why does The Aquarian Conspiracy, a key New Age "handbook", bear a similar symbol? New Agers freely admit it represents three inter-woven "6"s or "666".

Constance Cumbey, author of [i]The Hidden Dangers of the Rainbow[/i] and a notable authority on the New Age Movement, said, "On the cover of the [i]Aquarian Conspiracy[/i] is a Mobius, it is really used by them as triple six (666). The emblem on the cover of the New King James Bible is said to be an ancient symbol of the Trinity. The old symbol had gnostic origins. It was more gnostic than Christian. I was rather alarmed when I noticed the emblem..." (The New Age Movement, Southwest Radio Church, 1982 p.11)

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The Triqueta is used as the centerpiece for the logo for [b]The Institute of Transpersonal Psychology[/b] (ITP). The ITP is a new age school following the Jungian Psychology [occultist Carl Jung]. One of their stated goals is ". . . to reach the recognition of divinity within"(www.itp.edu/about/tp.html) (see Genesis 3:5, "...ye shall be as gods...")

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The same symbol (with a circle) is displayed by the rock group Led Zeppelin. Members of Led Zeppelin are deeply involved in satanism and the occult. Guitarist Jimmy Page, so consumed with satanism, actually purchased satanist Aleister Crowley's mansion. Most believe the symbol is from the teachings of Aleister Crowley and represents 666.

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The following picture is "The Hierophant" taken from the Tarot card set designed by satanist Aleister Crowley. The "Hierophant" is a priest in the occult and Eleusinian. Notice the "three circles" at the top of the wand or rod in the Hierphant's hand.

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One of the most occultic television shows ever aired is [b]"Charmed"[/b]. "Charmed" details the spells and occultic practices of three witches. The "NKJV symbol" is the show's primary symbol of witchcraft and is splattered throughout the series. Notice the "NKJV symbol" displayed on "The Book of Shadows". The Book of Shadows is commonly used in withcraft and satanism:

[b]Book of Shadows:[/b] Also called a grimoire, this journal kept either by individual witches or satanists or by a coven or group, records the activities of the group and the incantations used. (Jerry Johnston, The Edge of Evil: The Rise of Satanism on North America, p. 269)

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The image above is from the rock group Deicide's album "Once Upon the Cross". It is a triquetra (the NKJV logo) with pentagrams and upside down crosses. The group Deicide members are very serious Satanists. Lead Singer Glen Benton has an upside down cross branded on his forehead. The inside cover of the album "Once Upon the Cross" has the Lord Jesus Christ, sliced up the middle, with his insides removed. The name Deicide means the death of God.

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The triquetra (the NKJV logo) is also the logo for the Rap / Metal band [b]P.O.D[/b].

The book "[i]Blood on the Doorposts"[/i] by former Satanists, Bill and Sharon Schnoebelen, also documents the "trio of sixes (666)" in the "NKJV symbol" and goes so far as claim it is "symbolic of the anti-christ":

"A disguised interlocked trio of sixes, symbolic of the anti-christ. Also symbolizes the triple goddess of Wicca (three interlocked vesica pisces together). Commonly used in Catholic liturgical iconography, and has recently found its way into the logo of the New King James Bible." (Bill and Sharon Schnoebelen, Blood on the Doorposts, p. 150)

Dr. Cathy Burns writes in her book, [i]Masonic and Occult Symbols Illustrated,[/i] concerning the "NKJV symbol":

"Marilyn Ferguson, a New Ager, used the symbol of the triquetra (another name for the triskele) on her book [i]The Aquarian Conspiracy[/i]. This is a variation for the number 666. Other books and material have a similar design printed on them, such as books from David Spangler, the person who lauds Lucifer, and The Witch's Grimoire. As most people know, the number 666 is the number of the beast (see Revelation 13:18) and is evil, yet the occultists and New Agers love this number and consider it to be sacred.
As stated earlier, many organizations, such as the World Future Society and the Trilateral Commission, incorporate this symbol into their logo. I think it is quite interesting to see that this same symbol appears on the cover of the New King James Bible as well!"(Dr. Cathy Burns, Masonic and Occult Symbols Illustrated, pp. 242-243)

Edited March 4, 2007 by Urib2007

[TruthSeeker777]

As Christians we should care and be aware of satans devices.
It is our duty to make an effort regarding knowledge.
Using a satanic symbol knowingly or unkowingly can give satan a foothold in your life.
satan doesn't care if you [b]'didn't know[/b]',and an excuse like that won't save you either
If you are ignorant to knowledge,you are in trouble
So next time you think 'who cares',
Think about this verse:
[b]Hosea 4:6
My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children.[/b]

[Urib2007]

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Martin Luther, priest who set in motion the Protestant Reformation, was a Rosicrucian.
In fact, in an article on the internet entitled "Calvinism," John Paul Jones quoted Masonic scholar Manly P. Hall, 33 degree Mason, as affirming that Protestant reformer Martin Luther was a Rosicrucian initiate.

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If the petals of the flower are connected, an occult pentacle results.

[Farsight one]

[quote name='Budge' post='1207549' date='Mar 3 2007, 10:14 PM']Considering that Satan is related to serpents I dont think ay Christian would want a snake avatar!
Hehehehe, that happens sometimes.[/quote]Well if this isn't "guilty by association", I don't know what it is. Because satan appeared once in the form of a serpent, we should avoid all serpents? Satan is also the most beautiful of God's angels. Should we avoid those as well? And, since the serpent was most likely green, we should avoid the color green. You're being ridiculous. Or do you actually believe that a symbol can be intrensically evil?


[quote]Sure the swatiska is all over the world, it is related to SUN WORSHIP, which to be honest with you is one of the false premises of false religion throughout the world...worship of creation instead of Creator. Even the Tibetan Buddhists use the swastika. I have studied all the religions of the world and on one thing they stand apart from true Christianity is this SUN WORSHIP. SUN WORSHIP FORMS THE CORE COMPONENT OF MYSTERY BABYLON.
I did a thread here acouple years ago on that maybe Ill dig it up and bump it.
No I'm warning people of stuff I knew of first hand.[/quote] Once again, no symbol is intrensically evil - only what it CAN stand for.

As for the mobius - it was a symbol for the trinity first, before witches. Witches use crosses too. Are you going to call a cross occultic?

[Apotheoun]

[quote name='Budge' post='1207549' date='Mar 3 2007, 08:14 PM']IF someone uses a Pentagram avatar, are some of you going to be ok with that?

Just wondering.[/quote]
I'm not going to freak out over any avatar. I mean come on, we are just talking about an avatar at an internet forum. So, if someone wants to use a five pointed star as their avatar it's fine with me.

Most symbols have multiple meanings anyway, so there is no sense in overreacting to an avatar.

Get a grip and take a chill pill.

[Laudate_Dominum]

and eat some meat loaf or chicken or something.

[CatholicCid]

Can't see a snake... Is it like one of those things you have to stare at till you get it

[ardillacid]

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The triquetra (the NKJV logo) is also the logo for the Rap / Metal band [b]P.O.D[/b].[/quote]
If you had ever listened to POD you would not be using them for an example in your argument

[Budge]

Just so this thread doesnt confuse anyone...

when Cmother changed her avatar, it changed my pic on the first post.

It was a snake in a circle..