Opinions On Birth Control Pills

[Didymus]

[quote name='Cathoholic Anonymous' post='1205936' date='Feb 28 2007, 06:19 PM']Catholic teaching does permit women to take the Pill for valid medical reasons. (Acne is not one of them.)[/quote]

i was saying catholic teaching aside. Most of the world doesnt care about catholic teaching. That's why I said that whenever someone brings that up - saying that it's ok because they are using it for an ok reason - I try to bring up the fact that it is deadly to the body, though not always to the soul.

[N/A Gone]

[quote]Catholic teaching does permit women to take the Pill for valid medical reasons. (Acne is not one of them.)[/quote]

Not to argue, but for the sake of clarity, where does it say this? can you site it please? also, what is a "valid" reason and what isnt? Im sure I can justifify something.

[prose]

It is medication. The Church does not specifically name medications. It is the intent that is the problem, not the pill itself.

But I think that the pill is often a band-aid and an easy fix for doctors who are too lazy to get to the root of the real problem.

[Thy Geekdom Come]

[quote name='cmotherofpirl' post='1205954' date='Feb 28 2007, 07:47 PM']I can also destroy a woman's sex drive, which is something all husbands should REALLY take into consideration.[/quote]
Well then, all husbands should definitely keep their wives away from you.

[Thy Geekdom Come]

[quote name='cmotherofpirl' post='1206261' date='Mar 1 2007, 12:06 PM']I posted a story in Open mic about frogs changing from he frogs to she frogs as a result of all the estrogen in the water from women taking the pills.[/quote]

Anyone else get reminded of Jurassic Park while reading this?

[xTrishaxLynnx]

[quote name='The Joey-O' post='1205610' date='Feb 27 2007, 09:41 PM']I agree, contraceptive, especially the pill, is wrong.

I'd like to hear people's opinion on what to do if a doctor attempts to perscibe birth control, say for painful periods or some other condition that they assume birth control is a cure-all for.[/quote]

If it's for painful periods, I would say "No, thanks. I'd rather deal with it." (and I have been offered the pill for this.)

I don't really trust doctors; at least not to the extent that most people do. Tons of people say "well my doctor said..." like that makes it some sort of infallible doctrine or something. Personally, if I do have a problem I can't deal with, I would rather talk to my chiropractor about it. Besides the fact that just getting an adjustment can help with tons of problems, she's given me so many natural remedies that have really helped. There is almost always a natural alternative.

I'm not saying that for some people the BCP isn't the only option at the time, but I think that if anything, it should only be used as a temporary relief of nearly impossible-to-deal-with symptoms while the cause and a better remedy for the problem are sought.

[quote name='Revprodeji' post='1205616' date='Feb 27 2007, 09:54 PM']Comparatively no. Antibiotics are used in extreme conditions, and their side effects (I assume you mean the killing of good bacteria) is handled in context[/quote]

When I did have to go on antibiotics for strep and pneumonia my chiropractor gave me a probiotic to help replace the good bacteria that would be killed.

[xTrishaxLynnx]

[quote name='Raphael' post='1206324' date='Mar 1 2007, 01:54 PM']Well then, all husbands should definitely keep their wives away from you.[/quote]



Cmom, they're never gonna let it go.

[MissScripture]

[quote name='xTrishaxLynnx' post='1206329' date='Mar 1 2007, 01:57 PM']If it's for painful periods, I would say "No, thanks. I'd rather deal with it." (and I have been offered the pill for this.)[/quote]
There again, it sounds like their not really looking for the root of the problem. And nothing is solved just by taking the pill. Masking the problem doesn't make it go away, and the pill fights against the body, rather than working with it.

[cmotherofpirl]

[quote name='xTrishaxLynnx' post='1206331' date='Mar 1 2007, 03:00 PM']

Cmom, they're never gonna let it go.[/quote]
[b]true, the boys have to play. If DUST had increased the font size or darkened it , maybe I could actually READ my posts and edit them.[/b]

[prose]

lol... I missed that too. I had to scroll up to see what you all were talking about

[Archaeology cat]

[quote name='Raphael' post='1206328' date='Mar 1 2007, 07:56 PM']Anyone else get reminded of Jurassic Park while reading this?[/quote]

I was. Though I thought we'd documented that frogs had that ability regardless. Maybe it's happening quicker now with more estrogen in the water?

[cathoholic_anonymous]

[quote]Have they figured out WHY this is going on? Or are they trying to?[/quote]

The specialist thinks that her heavy bleeding might be to do with the problems with eating she had a few years ago. She had glandular fever then and her appetite dropped markedly. It was like having a skeleton in the house. Even when she recovered from the fever, she couldn't bring herself to eat much. She was diagnosed as anorexic at one point (this was a misdiagnosis) because of her low weight.

Apparently, prolonged malnutrition can really mess up a woman's cycle. But her doctors are cautious about saying 'this is the cause', as they've never seen anything quite like Emma's case before. She has participated in a research study at a hospital in London, together with some other women who have similar problems, but the results were inconclusive.

Apart from the Pill, the doctors' other suggestion was to remove everything. She refused.

[MissScripture]

[quote name='Cathoholic Anonymous' post='1206791' date='Mar 2 2007, 05:29 AM']The specialist thinks that her heavy bleeding might be to do with the problems with eating she had a few years ago. She had glandular fever then and her appetite dropped markedly. It was like having a skeleton in the house. Even when she recovered from the fever, she couldn't bring herself to eat much. She was diagnosed as anorexic at one point (this was a misdiagnosis) because of her low weight.

Apparently, prolonged malnutrition can really mess up a woman's cycle. But her doctors are cautious about saying 'this is the cause', as they've never seen anything quite like Emma's case before. She has participated in a research study at a hospital in London, together with some other women who have similar problems, but the results were inconclusive.

Apart from the Pill, the doctors' other suggestion was to remove everything. She refused.[/quote]
Wow. Prayers for your sister, and that they find out what's wrong and how to make it right.

[Archaeology cat]

[quote name='Cathoholic Anonymous' post='1206791' date='Mar 2 2007, 11:29 AM']The specialist thinks that her heavy bleeding might be to do with the problems with eating she had a few years ago. She had glandular fever then and her appetite dropped markedly. It was like having a skeleton in the house. Even when she recovered from the fever, she couldn't bring herself to eat much. She was diagnosed as anorexic at one point (this was a misdiagnosis) because of her low weight.

Apparently, prolonged malnutrition can really mess up a woman's cycle. But her doctors are cautious about saying 'this is the cause', as they've never seen anything quite like Emma's case before. She has participated in a research study at a hospital in London, together with some other women who have similar problems, but the results were inconclusive.

Apart from the Pill, the doctors' other suggestion was to remove everything. She refused.[/quote]

Definitely praying. And I can see how malnutrition could easily affect that.

[Sojourner]

This was something I came 180 degrees on during the process of my conversion ... up until I started looking into Catholic teaching, there was really nothing I'd seen anywhere that discouraged taking the pill. I can't think of a single wedding I attended or participated in where the bride was NOT on the pill. Even among Christian girls who weren't (or said they weren't) having sex before marriage, it was part of pre-wedding planning -- go on the pill 6 months before you got married. Never questioned.

I never went on it because I didn't like the idea of messing around with my hormones ... but it didn't become a moral/theological conviction until I started studying Catholicism, and the Theology of the Body in particular.