There's Nothing Wrong With Paying Tax...or Is There?

[Laudate_Dominum]

my solution is to eat my anxieties away.. ok, back to the tacos, so very tasty and good for you,.

[Didymus]

[quote name='Truthseeker777' post='1192048' date='Feb 11 2007, 11:21 PM']
Ceaser was a criminal and murderer he is frying,
the corrupt American leaders will join him soon.[/quote]

this is getting rediculous

[cmotherofpirl]

[quote name='Truthseeker777' post='1192048' date='Feb 12 2007, 12:21 AM']
Ceaser was a criminal and murderer he is frying,
the corrupt American leaders will join him soon.

I am worried about the world!
Look at the bigger picture.
[/quote]
Caesar was a legitimate ruler, and I quoted the Bible.
Funny, you gave the impression at some point you were a christian. If you were a christian you would not be judging the state of someone's soul and declaring they are going to fry. Sounds a bit judgemental to me.

Would it occur to you that we are worried about the world as well? You can either affect the world where you live in a local way [ feeding and clothing the poor etc] or can run for legitimate office and affect the world in a bigger way. Which one are you actively pursuing, instead of posting silly vids on the net?

[Urib2007]

[quote name='cmotherofpirl' post='1192302' date='Feb 12 2007, 06:55 AM']
Caesar was a legitimate ruler, and I quoted the Bible.
Funny, you gave the impression at some point you were a christian. If you were a christian you would not be judging the state of someone's soul and declaring they are going to fry. Sounds a bit judgemental to me.

Would it occur to you that we are worried about the world as well? You can either affect the world where you live in a local way [ feeding and clothing the poor etc] or can run for legitimate office and affect the world in a bigger way. Which one are you actively pursuing, instead of posting silly vids on the net?
[/quote]

How on earth is the video [b]I[/b] posted silly? Most likely you haven't seen it.
The video is an eye opener. The majority of Americans have no clue if there is a law that states they have to pay income tax.
Posting videos like this does help because it allows other people to see what's really going on with their hard earned money.
If I had free copies of this film, I'd go out and distribute them all over, but since I don't have the money right now to do it, I can't. (Although I'm saving up for a DVD burner)
I know many of you on here are worried about the world as I am too. That is why I am posting videos on this forum to educate about certain topics people may not know about.

[Didymus]

As I mentioned before, all of the actual important facts and concerns posed by this vid can all be found in mainstream college history books. It has been debated for a while, so you can get the info without the hokey doomsday atmosphere given by the movie.

[Urib2007]

[quote name='MissScripture' post='1192246' date='Feb 12 2007, 12:05 AM']
So, what do you suggest we do to pay for the running of our government? The money has to come from somewhere. If you're going to go around pointing fingers and whining about problems, at least offer solutions.
[/quote]

You obviously didn't view the film, Miss Scripture. I'm not whining or pointing fingers in any way. Where did you get that from?

The "income tax" isn't used for public services. It is a racket that puts money directly into the pockets of international banking elite.

Local property taxes are used to fund public schools and education. Gas tax is used to maintain and fix roads. Sales tax used for other things. But the "federal income tax", the one that the IRS insist we file every year, doesn't go to public works. It goes to paying off a "debt" that we can mathematically never fully pay, thus creating a money slavery system that the USA has been under since the illegal and unconstitutional "federal reserve act" of 1913.

[Didymus]

I finally watched the whole thing. Here's some random thoughts and things I've found:

-If the government did not borrow money, and instead made its own, inflation would go crazy. This is 101 material here. The federal government is a debtor and a creditor just like everyone else.

-The clip with the reporter is edited:
'managed by a small group of people'[division]'responsible for coming up'
you can tell if you watch the numbers sliding by on the bottom of the screen. This is a blatantly doctored peice of propaganda dude.

-The paper we call money is money because the people recognize it as having value. The belief in ousting the gold standard is not American. Everyone is doing it.

-They didnt even site where they learned that Bush is tapping private phone calls! nor did they tell us where they heard of 'Echelon.'

-The last part of this video had little to do with America, but with the world


There is WAY too much of this film that states facts that it cannot prove and takes an authoritative position that in cannot support.

[quote name='Urib2007' post='1192342' date='Feb 12 2007, 10:28 AM']
It goes to paying off a "debt" that we can mathematically never fully pay, thus creating a money slavery system that the USA has been under since the illegal and unconstitutional "federal reserve act" of 1913.
[/quote]


It started with the War of Independence. Without the national debt gives the federal government something to pay off to obtain good credit thus helping the economy.

[Urib2007]

[size=3]"The Power of tax is the power to destroy." - Supreme Court Chief Justice John Marshall[/size]

[size=5]A PARTIAL LIST OF TAXES AMERICANS ARE FORCED TO PAY[/size]

Accounts Receivable Tax
Automobile Registration Tax
Building Permit Tax
Capital Gains Tax
CDL License Tax
Cigarrette Tax
Corporate Income Tax
Court Fines (indirect taxes)
Dog License Tax
Estate Tax
Federal Unemployment Tax (FUTA)
Fishing License Tax
Food License Tax
Fuel Permit Tax
Gasoline Tax (42 cents for gallon)
Hunting License Tax
Inheritance Tax Interest Expense (Tax on your money)
Inventory Tax
IRS Interest Charges (Tax on Top of Tax)
Liquor Tax
IRS Penalties (Tax on top of tax)
Local Income Tax
Luxury Taxes
Marriage License Tax
Medicare Tax
Parking Meters
Property Tax
Real Estate Tax
Septic Permit Tax
Social Security Tax
Service Charge Taxes
Road Usage Taxes (Truckers)
Sales Taxes
Recreational Vehicle Tax
Road toll booth Taxes
School Tax
State Income Tax
State unemployment Tax (SUTA)
Telephone Federal Excise Tax
Telephone Federal Universal Service Fee Tax
Telephone Federal State & Local Surcharge Taxes
Telephone Minimum Usage Surcharge Tax
Telephone Recurring and Non recurring charges tax
Telephone State and Local tax
Telephone Usage Charge Tax
Toll Bridge Taxes
Toll Tunnel Taxes
Traffic Fines
Trailer Registration Tax
Utility Taxes
Vehicle License Registration Tax
Vehicle Sales Tax
Watercraft Registration Tax
Well Permit Tax
Workers Compensation Tax

and then there's

[size=5]FEDERAL INCOME TAX![/size]


"We've been told we need the federal income tax to fund government, which is ridiculous. If that's true how did we fund government from 1776 to 1913?"
- Peter Gibbons (Tax Attorney)


"The main purpose of the income tax is not to raise revenue, but to re-distribute wealth and to control society." - G. Edware Griffin (author)

"A lot of people might say, 'Well, gee if there wasn't an income tax, what would happen to education?'

Education is paid for by local property taxes.

How are we going to build and maintain our highways?

Tax on Gasoline pays for America's highways.

The amount of money we spend on defence is equal to the amount of corporate income tax which is legal and constitutional."

- Bob Schulz
[i]We the People Foundation[/i]

[color="#000099"]"Congress tried to enact an income tax in 1894, the Supreme Court said that it is UNCONSTITUTIONAL. When the Supreme Court says something is unconstitutional, it's unconstitutional.

They tried again in 1913, the Supreme Court said the 16th Amendment conferred no new power of taxation, so if they didn't have it then, they don't have it!

There is NO CONSTITUTIONAL BASIS FOR TAX ON THE WAGES OF AMERICANS LIVING AND WORKING IN THE 50 STATES OF THE UNION"
- Peter Gibbons (Tax Attorney)[/color]

[KnightofChrist]

So dont pay taxes! And dont get your refund! And dont use money!

But we know you do use money and you do pay taxes. Unless your in prison and get to use the net, or mommy and daddys computer is used.

Edited February 12, 2007 by KnightofChrist

[KnightofChrist]

Heres something else I dont understand the people that drew up the constitution, were masons and therefor evil they built evil things made evil symbols, but the constitution is not evil and is good.

How is that?

Please do explain.

[Didymus]

[quote name='Urib2007' post='1192394' date='Feb 12 2007, 11:44 AM']
When the Supreme Court says something is unconstitutional, it's unconstitutional.[/quote]

yeah, just like when they said it's unconstitutional to protect the child in the womb.

Are you even an American?

[Phoenix Reborn]

[quote name='Didymus' post='1192516' date='Feb 12 2007, 11:54 AM']
yeah, just like when they said it's unconstitutional to protect the child in the womb.

Are you even an American?
[/quote]

Nope, she's not American. Same with Truthseeker777.

[cmotherofpirl]

[quote name='Urib2007' post='1192394' date='Feb 12 2007, 12:44 PM']
[size=3]"The Power of tax is the power to destroy." - Supreme Court Chief Justice John Marshall[/size]

[size=5]A PARTIAL LIST OF TAXES AMERICANS ARE FORCED TO PAY[/size]

Accounts Receivable Tax
Automobile Registration Tax
Building Permit Tax
Capital Gains Tax
CDL License Tax
Cigarrette Tax
Corporate Income Tax
Court Fines (indirect taxes)
Dog License Tax
Estate Tax
Federal Unemployment Tax (FUTA)
Fishing License Tax
Food License Tax
Fuel Permit Tax
Gasoline Tax (42 cents for gallon)
Hunting License Tax
Inheritance Tax Interest Expense (Tax on your money)
Inventory Tax
IRS Interest Charges (Tax on Top of Tax)
Liquor Tax
IRS Penalties (Tax on top of tax)
Local Income Tax
Luxury Taxes
Marriage License Tax
Medicare Tax
Parking Meters
Property Tax
Real Estate Tax
Septic Permit Tax
Social Security Tax
Service Charge Taxes
Road Usage Taxes (Truckers)
Sales Taxes
Recreational Vehicle Tax
Road toll booth Taxes
School Tax
State Income Tax
State unemployment Tax (SUTA)
Telephone Federal Excise Tax
Telephone Federal Universal Service Fee Tax
Telephone Federal State & Local Surcharge Taxes
Telephone Minimum Usage Surcharge Tax
Telephone Recurring and Non recurring charges tax
Telephone State and Local tax
Telephone Usage Charge Tax
Toll Bridge Taxes
Toll Tunnel Taxes
Traffic Fines
Trailer Registration Tax
Utility Taxes
Vehicle License Registration Tax
Vehicle Sales Tax
Watercraft Registration Tax
Well Permit Tax
Workers Compensation Tax

and then there's

[size=5]FEDERAL INCOME TAX![/size]
"We've been told we need the federal income tax to fund government, which is ridiculous. If that's true how did we fund government from 1776 to 1913?"
- Peter Gibbons (Tax Attorney)
"The main purpose of the income tax is not to raise revenue, but to re-distribute wealth and to control society." - G. Edware Griffin (author)

"A lot of people might say, 'Well, gee if there wasn't an income tax, what would happen to education?'

Education is paid for by local property taxes.

How are we going to build and maintain our highways?

Tax on Gasoline pays for America's highways.

The amount of money we spend on defence is equal to the amount of corporate income tax which is legal and constitutional."

- Bob Schulz
[i]We the People Foundation[/i]

[color="#000099"]"Congress tried to enact an income tax in 1894, the Supreme Court said that it is UNCONSTITUTIONAL. When the Supreme Court says something is unconstitutional, it's unconstitutional.

They tried again in 1913, the Supreme Court said the 16th Amendment conferred no new power of taxation, so if they didn't have it then, they don't have it!

There is NO CONSTITUTIONAL BASIS FOR TAX ON THE WAGES OF AMERICANS LIVING AND WORKING IN THE 50 STATES OF THE UNION"
- Peter Gibbons (Tax Attorney)[/color]
[/quote]
lol, I pay 4 of the above : and you got so many things wrong. Why don't you post a list of taxes Brits pay and we can enjoy that one too.

[Didymus]

Is a parking meter really considered a tax?

[cmotherofpirl]

See what I mean by gettting things wrong??