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[quote name='Didymus' post='1189952' date='Feb 9 2007, 02:05 PM']
please do. It's true, I dont always agree with what goes on in my country, but it's still my country. What are we suppose to do about income tax anyways? Definitely the least of our worries while abortion is still around, not to mention the countless Teri Shiavos whom are ignored by our politicians.

why didnt you address my other statement Truthseeker? How can this be facism if we elect these income taxers into office?
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Didymus,
Have you seen the entire film? Because if you have then you would be asking that question to TruthSeeker. Dude, take the time to view the entire film. Unless it's too boring for you.

[quote name='Groo the Wanderer' post='1189985' date='Feb 9 2007, 02:20 PM']
OH NO!
Another attack of the naked-in-the-basement, tinfoil-hat-wearing, looking-for-black-helicopters conspiracy buffs.... :shock: :shock:
carry on! :topsy:
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If you knew what I looked like, you'd eat your words. It's funny how people who care about their country are looked upon like 'crazy tin foil hat wearing' kooks. I won't disagree that there are those type of people out there, but come on.
More and more people are seeing the reality to what's actually going on behind the scenes.

[quote name='Didymus' post='1189925' date='Feb 9 2007, 01:57 PM']
any patriotic American is already well aware of most of this. It's just the way it works. Its not considered a forced tax because we ourselves elect the officials that tax us. If you dont like it, then try to get someone else in office. This is not facism.
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You'd be surprised to know the majority of Americans have NO CLUE whatsoever that there doesn't exist a law that requires us to pay an income tax.

If more and more people knew that, there would probably be a revolution.

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[quote name='Didymus' post='1189952' date='Feb 10 2007, 12:05 AM']
please do. It's true, I dont always agree with what goes on in my country, but it's still my country. What are we suppose to do about income tax anyways? Definitely the least of our worries while abortion is still around, not to mention the countless Teri Shiavos whom are ignored by our politicians.

why didnt you address my other statement Truthseeker? How can this be facism if we elect these income taxers into office?
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The day everybody understand that they vote for a bunch of scammers.You will make a big difference in who is in the Oval
Office.With a much better country and more money in you hardearned pocket:)
Its just sad that the people that call themselves patriotic,they are the people that resist the truth so badly:(
You have Hillary Clinton pretending to be a 'CHristian' and after church's out she bang the drum for abbortions
as loud as everyone if not louder!
But she's favourite to become the first woman president.Ridiculous absolutely crazy!
She's a mass murderer and deserve to burn.

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[quote name='Truthseeker777' post='1190009' date='Feb 9 2007, 04:37 PM']You have Hillary Clinton pretending to be a 'CHristian' and after church's out she bang the drum for abbortions as loud as everyone if not louder!
But she's favourite to become the first woman president.Ridiculous absolutely crazy!
She's a mass murderer.[/quote]

agreed!


[quote name='Urib2007' post='1189991' date='Feb 9 2007, 04:25 PM']
Didymus,
Have you seen the entire film?
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[quote]ok, I didnt even watch the whole thing. I only got through half of it. But you do realize this is nothing new, right? Income tax aside, this has been debated since Alexander Hamilton, a Federalist, became treasurer. If you want in on the political discussion in this country, why dont you try to read some history books instead of watching all the conspiracy garbage you find online.
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I'll finish it later. But I my answer probably wont change.

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Archaeology cat

[quote name='Urib2007' post='1189991' date='Feb 9 2007, 10:25 PM']
You'd be surprised to know the majority of Americans have NO CLUE whatsoever that there doesn't exist a law that requires us to pay an income tax.
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Okay, haven't watched the film because I honestly don't have time at the moment (just taking a quick break from my papers & PhD app), but I have a quick question/comment. Doesn't the 16th amendment to the Constitution give Congress the ability and right to impose income tax? It says "The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes, from whatever source derived, without apportionment among the several States, and without regard to any census or enumeration."

And seeing as Amendments are voted on by each state's legislature after that, this would seem to be a legal power that we the people have given to our government through voting for such a thing. We vote for our representatives, who then enact laws for us. I do think more people need to get involved in voting, and voting responsibly, though, especially in light of some laws that are passed by those we elect.

If this isn't about income tax, then sorry for butting in. :)

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KnightofChrist

Is money evil, if taxes are evil?

I would advise movie theatre
managers to hand out vomit bags. You may end up
needing one??

Wow just the kind of thing I wanna go see... not

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Phoenix Reborn

[quote name='Truthseeker777' post='1189933' date='Feb 9 2007, 02:00 PM']
(And geuss what 'D' There is people living outside America too if you haven't noticed.
Good Godfearing,Christians that look at you guys being duped and trying to open your eyes
to what is being done to such an Awesome country!!!
You need to seriuosly wake up man,i'll be praying for you:)
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Look, Urib and Truthseeker, what does 'The Antichrist is already Born...' and that thing about aliens being demon-spawn have to do anything about your...quest to open our eyes about America? I mean, at first Urib was just the person who hated Mary, Mother of the Church and wanted to prove her wrong, and went against rock music. Truthseeker, you were just the guy that always agreed with your friends and posted links to anti-Catholic websites. What's with the change all of a sudden? We all know the problems of America. We're not listening to the conspiracy theories you find on the internet. Our eyes are already open, you just won't believe us. If you really wanna open our eyes, then stop saying they're closed. Stop saying we're blind or stupid, or hiding the truth just because the mods keep blanking out your anti-Catholic websites. If you really wish to help us, just pray that America's corruptness leaves, and all wrongs turn to rights, instead of trying to make us listen to stuff you found on the internet.

Peace.

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[quote name='Archaeology cat' post='1190570' date='Feb 10 2007, 06:40 AM']
Okay, haven't watched the film because I honestly don't have time at the moment (just taking a quick break from my papers & PhD app), but I have a quick question/comment. Doesn't the 16th amendment to the Constitution give Congress the ability and right to impose income tax? It says "The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes, from whatever source derived, without apportionment among the several States, and without regard to any census or enumeration."

And seeing as Amendments are voted on by each state's legislature after that, this would seem to be a legal power that we the people have given to our government through voting for such a thing. We vote for our representatives, who then enact laws for us. I do think more people need to get involved in voting, and voting responsibly, though, especially in light of some laws that are passed by those we elect.

If this isn't about income tax, then sorry for butting in. :)
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Thanks! Alot of the vid seems to tell us that there is no law which says the government can do this, and I briefly thought about the amendment that brought it to be.

Urib, is this not the law they are refering to?

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cmotherofpirl

Don't you think you should be worried our your own country, after all you have to deal with the EU,

and if you read the bible there is a line about "rendering to Caesar what is Caesar's"

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[quote name='Didymus' post='1190589' date='Feb 10 2007, 03:14 PM']
Thanks! Alot of the vid seems to tell us that there is no law which says the government can do this, and I briefly thought about the amendment that brought it to be.

Urib, is this not the law they are refering to?
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Glad I remembered something from my high school government class. :)

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Hmmm... I wonder why the IRS never told anyone this "law" then. I highly doubt Aaron Russo spent all his time and effort to make this documentary without researching the correct information. If indeed there was a law to pay income tax, why wouldn't the IRS tell him and many others in the first place? Seriously what is up with you guys? Watch the film for crying out loud.

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TruthSeeker777

[quote name='cmotherofpirl' post='1190650' date='Feb 10 2007, 07:16 PM']
Don't you think you should be worried our your own country, after all you have to deal with the EU,

and if you read the bible there is a line about "rendering to Caesar what is Caesar's"
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Ceaser was a criminal and murderer he is frying,
the corrupt American leaders will join him soon.

I am worried about the world!
Look at the bigger picture.

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MissScripture

So, what do you suggest we do to pay for the running of our government? The money has to come from somewhere. If you're going to go around pointing fingers and whining about problems, at least offer solutions.

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