Ziggamafu Posted February 4, 2007 Share Posted February 4, 2007 I've seen some cool scapulars that use chains instead of cord / string. Would that be cool per the Confraternity's guide lines? Anybody know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted February 4, 2007 Share Posted February 4, 2007 According to the Carmelites, the scapular must be made of cloth and worn over the shoulders by cloth or a cord or a chain. So I'd say you're fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziggamafu Posted February 5, 2007 Author Share Posted February 5, 2007 (edited) [quote name='Dave' post='1184813' date='Feb 4 2007, 07:34 PM'] According to the Carmelites, the scapular must be made of cloth and worn over the shoulders by cloth or a cord or a chain. So I'd say you're fine. [/quote] Check [url="http://fleurdelismedia.com/rosaryshop/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=188"]this one out.[/url] [img]http://fleurdelismedia.com/rosaryshop/images/newscapular.jpg[/img] Pretty convenient, huh? I suppose if chain is good enough for the Carmelites, it's good enough for me! So I can use the one I linked to above to enroll into the Confraternity? Can any priest do it or does he have to be a Carmelite? Thanks! Edited February 5, 2007 by Ziggamafu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted February 5, 2007 Share Posted February 5, 2007 Ok, I didn't know you were referring to a scapular medal. In order to be enrolled in the confraternity, you have to have a real scapular. Only after enrollment can you replace the scapular with a scapular medal -- for a just reason, of course. Also, after you get enrolled with the scapular, you don't have to get new ones blessed by a priest because they automatically become blessed once you start wearing them. However, if you get a scapular medal, then it has to be blessed. Each new scapular medal has to be blessed, actually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziggamafu Posted February 5, 2007 Author Share Posted February 5, 2007 [quote name='Dave' post='1184856' date='Feb 4 2007, 08:51 PM'] Ok, I didn't know you were referring to a scapular medal. In order to be enrolled in the confraternity, you have to have a real scapular. Only after enrollment can you replace the scapular with a scapular medal -- for a just reason, of course. Also, after you get enrolled with the scapular, you don't have to get new ones blessed by a priest because they automatically become blessed once you start wearing them. However, if you get a scapular medal, then it has to be blessed. Each new scapular medal has to be blessed, actually. [/quote] i was hoping that since the medal has the wool on the back it would pass... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted February 5, 2007 Share Posted February 5, 2007 When I first saw your post with the scapular medal pictures, it didn't load completely, so I'm afraid I didn't see the part of the medal with the wool on it. Hmmmm ... now I'm afraid I don't know what the answer would be. Any Church Scholars out there who can help? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resurrexi Posted February 5, 2007 Share Posted February 5, 2007 Seriously, I think people care too much about trivial things like scapulars. Does it really matter if your scapular is perfect or not? I think people should spend more time worrying about the Dogmata and Doctrines, the Sacraments, the Commandments, and the Lord's Prayer and the Angelical Salutation rather than trivial things like scapulars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted February 5, 2007 Share Posted February 5, 2007 [quote name='StThomasMore' post='1185527' date='Feb 5 2007, 03:59 PM'] Seriously, I think people care too much about trivial things like scapulars. Does it really matter if your scapular is perfect or not? I think people should spend more time worrying about the Dogmata and Doctrines, the Sacraments, the Commandments, and the Lord's Prayer and the Angelical Salutation rather than trivial things like scapulars. [/quote] If someone wants to get enrolled in the scapular confraternity, then isn't it important that they have the right materials? It's the Church who made the decisions on how one goes about getting enrolled in the scapular, not us. And who said those who care about scapulars don't care about dogmata, doctrine, sacraments, commandments, etc.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resurrexi Posted February 5, 2007 Share Posted February 5, 2007 [quote name='Dave' post='1185532' date='Feb 5 2007, 02:04 PM'] If someone wants to get enrolled in the scapular confraternity, then isn't it important that they have the right materials? It's the Church who made the decisions on how one goes about getting enrolled in the scapular, not us. And who said those who care about scapulars don't care about dogmata, doctrine, sacraments, commandments, etc.? [/quote] I'm just saying there are always two or three threads going on Phatmass about scapulars and I think it's kind of petty and ridiculous when there are so many more important matters to discuss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homeschoolmom Posted February 5, 2007 Share Posted February 5, 2007 There's plenty of room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sojourner Posted February 5, 2007 Share Posted February 5, 2007 [quote name='StThomasMore' post='1185564' date='Feb 5 2007, 03:12 PM'] I'm just saying there are always two or three threads going on Phatmass about scapulars and I think it's kind of petty and ridiculous when there are so many more important matters to discuss. [/quote] pfft I just about spit my Vitamin Water when I saw this coming from you, of all people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resurrexi Posted February 5, 2007 Share Posted February 5, 2007 [quote name='Terra Firma' post='1185570' date='Feb 5 2007, 03:28 PM'] pfft I just about spit my Vitamin Water when I saw this coming from you, of all people. [/quote] How are my threads petty? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight of the Holy Rosary Posted February 5, 2007 Share Posted February 5, 2007 (edited) Our Lady seems to think Scapulars are of significant importance *edit for spelling Edited February 5, 2007 by Knight of the Holy Rosary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziggamafu Posted February 5, 2007 Author Share Posted February 5, 2007 [quote name='StThomasMore' post='1185624' date='Feb 5 2007, 06:44 PM'] How are my threads petty? [/quote] I have a couple of other threads that should bear a stronger relevance to the aspects of Catholicism you seem most interested in. I would love your input. However, as an item of both Catholic culture (tradition) and sacramental significance (very much a part of the Deposit) I would say scapulars are not something to be mocked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resurrexi Posted February 5, 2007 Share Posted February 5, 2007 [quote name='Ziggamafu' post='1185650' date='Feb 5 2007, 05:09 PM'] I have a couple of other threads that should bear a stronger relevance to the aspects of Catholicism you seem most interested in. I would love your input. However, as an item of both Catholic culture (tradition) and sacramental significance (very much a part of the Deposit) I would say scapulars are not something to be mocked. [/quote] Scapulars are certainly not parto of the Deposit of Faith. [quote name='The 1917 Catholic Encyclopedia article 'Orthodoxy'']Orthodoxy (orthodoxeia) signifies right belief or purity of faith. Right belief is not merely subjective, as resting on personal knowledge and convictions, but is in accordance with the teaching and direction of an absolute extrinsic authority. This authority is the Church founded by Christ, and guided by the Holy Ghost. He, therefore, is orthodox, whose faith coincides with the teachings of the Catholic Church. As [b]divine revelation forms the deposit of faith[/b] entrusted to the Church for man's salvation, it also, with the truths clearly deduced from it, forms the object and content of orthodoxy.[/quote] Scapulars are, however, sacramentals. I personally hate how in 'folk Catholicism' it is believed that the Brown Scapular is believed to be a get-out-of-hell-free card. Becuase of this I don't feel as close to the scapular as I do to other sacramentals such as the Rosary which are not so greatly misunderstood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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