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[quote name='Mercy me' post='1182777' date='Feb 1 2007, 10:56 PM']
I think that they are very much in need of prayers.
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They don't deserve them

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Well, Jesus Christ thought they were worth dying for. Did they deserve it? No...but neither did I. God's mercy is beyond our imagination.

Let's each say a Hail Mary for their souls right now...

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[quote name='catholicinsd' post='1182767' date='Feb 1 2007, 10:42 PM']
The Phelps family is a bunch of self-hating homosexuals were molested by Fred Sr.
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Can you back that up?

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[quote name='notardillacid' post='1182790' date='Feb 1 2007, 11:10 PM']
Can you back that up?
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Research has been done in that area. His esstranged children have also said it.

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[quote name='catholicinsd' post='1182778' date='Feb 1 2007, 11:57 PM']
They don't deserve them
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Ironic thread title with a comment like that...

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Fred is just an insane man that uses violence and brainwashing to obtain followers. He's taken the worst elements of protestantism [calvanism, etc] and applied them in the most radical of interpretations.

Here's some history people should know:

Phelps lost his right to practice law due to extorting african americans, among other racially motivated behavior. Several of Phelps own children [his sons] have referred to his religion as a "carefully planned cult".

His view of women as wives is this:

[quote]A good left hook [boxing punch] makes for a right fine wife[/quote] Phelps endorses violence against women by their husbands.

[quote]Criminal Record

Phelps was first arrested in 1951 and found guilty of misdemeanor battery after attacking a Pasadena police officer. He has since been arrested for assault, battery, threats, trespassing, disorderly conduct, contempt of court, and several other charges; each time, he (along with Westboro and its other members) has filed suit against the city, the police, and the arresting officers. Though he has been able to avoid prison time, he has been convicted more than once:[40][41][42]

1994: Contempt of court[40]
1994: Two counts of assault (reduced to disorderly conduct on appeal)[41]
Phelps' 1993 convictions stemmed from a raid on the offices of his family's lawfirm, "Phelps Chartered," in which $37,000 worth of equipment was seized as evidence. Phelps later sued the city of Topeka for seizing the equipment and won $43,000 in damages. By the time an appeals court overturned the ruling, the statute of limitations had expired and Phelps was allowed to keep the money.[citation needed]

Phelps' 1995 conviction for assault and battery carried a five-year prison sentence, with a mandatory 18 months to be served before he became eligible for parole. Phelps fought to be allowed to remain free until his appeals process went through. Days away from being arrested and sent to prison, a judge ruled that Phelps had been denied a speedy trial and that he was not required to serve any time.[41][42]

In December 1996, in the wake of Fred Phelps' assault and battery conviction, two Topeka police officers came forward claiming that then-police chief Beavers had, in 1993, decreed a "no-arrest" policy that actively ignored complaints against Phelps and WBC members unless they were blatantly physically violent and/or witnessed by several persons.[citation needed] Beavers was quoted as saying:

"The Phelpses are not going to live in my house. Don't these officers know the Phelpses can sue us and take our houses? Commander, do you understand my order?"[/quote]

If you'd like a more indepth anaylisis check out [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Phelps"]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Phelps[/url]

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It is profoundly sorrowful that so many people today, when they hear the word "Christian," think of these people and people like them. As we know, Protestant fundamentalists barely make up a fraction of worldwide Christianity. The problem, I guess, is that they are very good at using the media... and the media them.

The results are not good.

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They are certainly in need of prayer. Phelps Sr. is addicted to hate. His biography, Addicted to Hate, is available in many places online. I pray that their addiction to hate would be broken, that they would see the evil they are causing to others and repent of it.

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