Hospice Helps Dying Man Lose His Virginity

[Sojourner]

[quote name='CrossCuT' post='1179096' date='Jan 28 2007, 10:15 PM']
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But seriously, this kid is pretty sick.
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Yeah people in hospice are typically pretty sick

[CrossCuT]

[Veritas]

[quote name='Terra Firma' post='1179100' date='Jan 28 2007, 11:16 PM']
Yeah people in hospice are typically pretty sick
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This is probably really bad, but that is really funny.

[CrossCuT]

[LuchaporElRey21]

Good gravy. I am going to cry in a corner and lament the state of the world now. I can't believe a nun would do that. I hope her superior opens up a can of good, old nun whuppin' on her.

[brendan1104]

From the Requiem Mass:

Absolve, O Lord, the souls of all the faithful departed from every bond of sin. And by the help of Your grace may they be enabled to escape the avenging judgment. And enjoy the happiness of everlasting life.

Absólve, Dómine,ánimas ómnium fidélium defunctórum ab omni vínculo delictórum.
Et grátia tua illis succurréte, mereántur evádere judícium ultiónis. Et lucis ætérnæ
beatitúdine perfrui.

[Didymus]

yeah, welcome to the forsaken dark disgusting rediculously corrupt world of hospice. This is only the icing on the cake to the hospice stories ive heard. my sisters a cna and my moms an RN and they alone could spend hours telling of the rediculously horrendous world we live in where its becoming easier to kill off the old and ill when we dont call it 'euthanasia.' thats all hospice is, is an organization to hold the famly's hand as they try to get the family to commit to euthansia.

i hate hospice. and i will always devote my life to its ultimate destruction

[catholicinsd]

Is it bad to laugh at that? Cause I just did

[cathoholic_anonymous]

[quote]i hate hospice. and i will always devote my life to its ultimate destruction[/quote]

Don't. There are lots of good hospices out there. I used to volunteer at a children's hospice in Lancashire, which was a wonderful warm place. The children were too sick to be at home all the time - they needed twenty-four care. It's far better that they receive it in a place that is fitted up to look like an ordinary house, with individually decorated rooms and a special lodge where their families can stay, than in an ordinary, unstimulating hospital that reeks of disinfectant and the whole atmosphere is one of illness. Remember that Dame Ciceley Saunders founded the hospice movement in response to the threat posed by euthanasia. Not all hospices are true to her vision, which is very sad, but that is no reason to condemn the hospice movement as an idea.

I read Wallis's story in [i]The Guardian[/i] a week or so ago. [i]The Guardian[/i] did not say that there were sisters involved or even that the hospice was a religious one. But just to provide some sort of reassurance, the nuns at Oxford's Helen House are Anglican, not Catholic. As Helen House is just the children's version of Douglas House, where Wallis is being cared for, I don't expect the sisters at Douglas House are Catholic either. (I know about Helen House's Anglicanism from a friend who studies at Oxford. One of the sisters came to give a talk about the hospice's work in his college chapel.)

[MRSannie]

Yes, I agree with the above. I have worked intermittently for hospice (I am a PT and help sometimes with the family for transfers etc) and my own mother was a patient once. How DARE you condemn all Hospice--may God have mercy on your physical well-being and DO pray you don't end up needing it----the REAL condemnation is this case goes to the sexually-saturated society that LIES to all about human sexuality. Yes, the nun and the parents were terribly wrong to condone/facilitate that encounter, but what of the young man who all his life was led to believe that sex is the ultimate goal? Watch sappy chick flicks lately? Sheesh, TV? Even stupid billboards and ads? REmember, our general population is getting more warped by the minute--and what would we expect? 22 yr olds near death thinking about eternity? Ha! As he lays there day after day he is watching movies, listening to rap music, reading magazines, watching TV and let's see, what do you expect from a pig but a grunt?

But please don't condemn Hospice. Yes I am sure there are transgressions happening---but there is SO MUCH help, caring and conversion going on there too.

[cmotherofpirl]

[quote name='Didymus' post='1179144' date='Jan 29 2007, 01:24 AM']


i hate hospice. and i will always devote my life to its ultimate destruction
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That is a wrong and non-catholic attitude to take. As christians we are called to take care of the sick, and most hospice take wonderful care of their patients.

[quote name='Extra ecclesiam nulla salus' post='1178963' date='Jan 28 2007, 10:51 PM']
i may be reading it incorrectly, so if i am please correct me.
[b]Sister Frances, the founder of the hospice, described Wallis as "delightful, intelligent and aware young man."

"I know that some people will say 'You are a Christian foundation. What are you thinking about?' But we are here for all faiths and none," she said.[/b]

but by saying that it sounds like she knows what went down? am i incorrect in my assumptions?
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"He said he did not discuss his decision directly with Sister Frances, who founded the two hospices. "But I know she gave me her support."

Please remember when someone is a patient, they do not give up their individual rights, so if someone wanted to engage in sexual activity, you have no right to say a word, except maybe do it elsewhere. The sex took place in his parents home, not at the hospice.

[Didymus]

hold up C.A. and Fannie. (with all due respect to your work in the medical field). what about hospice in the case of cancer patients? how many hospices recommend against starving cancer patients (they of course dont claim starvation). I have never heard of a hospice that doesnt believe in the whole 'we dont want to feed the cancer' bs.

i stand by my previous statement. the medical world would be FAR better without hospice and I still will die standing firm against any and every hospice organization.

p.s. just to get the full grasp of how hospice has effected my life: i am ready and willing to defend physically and with necessary force anyone who tries to force hospice on me or my family. If ever a doctor or nurse ever recommends it for anyone in my family i will probably tell them, well never mind what I'll tell them, but I will NEVER never let them into my parents medical needs in the future, no matter what illness they may or may not contract in old age.

[quote name='cmotherofpirl' post='1179241' date='Jan 29 2007, 09:33 AM']
That is a wrong and non-catholic attitude to take. As christians we are called to take care of the sick, and most hospice take wonderful care of their patients.
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with all due respect cmom, if thats wrong and non-catholic then someone better go ahead and give me the 'do not rep the church' title

Edited January 29, 2007 by Didymus

[franciscanheart]

[quote name='Cathoholic Anonymous' post='1179206' date='Jan 29 2007, 06:05 AM']
Don't. There are lots of good hospices out there. I used to volunteer at a children's hospice in Lancashire, which was a wonderful warm place. The children were too sick to be at home all the time - they needed twenty-four care. It's far better that they receive it in a place that is fitted up to look like an ordinary house, with individually decorated rooms and a special lodge where their families can stay, than in an ordinary, unstimulating hospital that reeks of disinfectant and the whole atmosphere is one of illness. Remember that Dame Ciceley Saunders founded the hospice movement in response to the threat posed by euthanasia. Not all hospices are true to her vision, which is very sad, but that is no reason to condemn the hospice movement as an idea.

I read Wallis's story in [i]The Guardian[/i] a week or so ago. [i]The Guardian[/i] did not say that there were sisters involved or even that the hospice was a religious one. [b]But just to provide some sort of reassurance, the nuns at Oxford's Helen House are Anglican, not Catholic. As Helen House is just the children's version of Douglas House, where Wallis is being cared for, I don't expect the sisters at Douglas House are Catholic either.[/b] (I know about Helen House's Anglicanism from a friend who studies at Oxford. One of the sisters came to give a talk about the hospice's work in his college chapel.)
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Thank you! I was reading through to see if ANYONE had thought to look that up! My first thought was: Catholics aren't the only ones with nuns and clergy! I wonder if they're even Catholic...

And you've answered my question. I wonder if anyone else saw your response.

[cmotherofpirl]

If you have had a bad experience with a hospice I am sorry. My experience was exactly opposite.

I was not trying to imply you were non-catholic.

We are called to take care of the sick and dying. In general hospices are 1000x better than dying in a hospital.

[Didymus]

The best place to die is at home with your family without outsiders providing fake compassion so that they could collect the memorials on your deceased loved ones.

I'm glad to hear you have taken advantage of the feel-good atmosphere produced by hospice.

"Hospice used to be a volunteer service that was done out of great dedication and love," says Ron Panzer of the Michigan-based Hospice Patients Alliance. "Medical ethics has turned a corner so we're not trying to do everything for the patient, but we're trying to save money."
[url="http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/2001-08-20-hospice-care.htm"]http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/2001-0...ospice-care.htm[/url]