prose Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 Please explain your views. We had a very interesting discussion about this recently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmotherofpirl Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 define good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prose Posted January 24, 2007 Author Share Posted January 24, 2007 That is the point of the poll. What exactly is the definition.... will people that YOU consider good be in hell? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ovenbird03 Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 Christ said that only God is good...so in that case, no there will be no good people in Hell. If good means someone who hasn't murdered anyone..then yes there will be 'good' people in Hell. Context is everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thessalonian Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 [quote name='prose' post='1174315' date='Jan 23 2007, 07:39 PM'] That is the point of the poll. What exactly is the definition.... will people that YOU consider good be in hell? [/quote] Now you defined it. Yes, there will be people whom I THOUGHT were good who will be in hell. There will be some who were good for a time. No there will not be good people in hell. I guess I would define good as being in a state of grace, i.e. a friend of God, i.e. regenerate. Those who persevere in such a state will be eternally good. Matt 5 45: so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven; for he makes his sun rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the just and on the unjust. Matthew, chapter 12 Chapter 35: The good man out of his good treasure brings forth good, and the evil man out of his evil treasure brings forth evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proud2BCatholic139 Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 You can be a good person, but one can have a mortal sin they don't want to confess because they are too stubborn, but we can not judge one person's mortal state in where they are going because we are not God. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resurrexi Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 (edited) There will be no good people in hell, for any person who is good will die in a state of Sanctifying Grace. Edited January 24, 2007 by StThomasMore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight of the Holy Rosary Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 (edited) If they are in a state of grace Edited January 24, 2007 by Knight of the Holy Rosary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proud2BCatholic139 Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 You can be a good person but miss Mass every Sunday because you don't feel like going. I believe there are more things to do than to be good in getting to Heaven. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmotherofpirl Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 [quote name='Proud2BCatholic139' post='1174373' date='Jan 23 2007, 09:32 PM'] You can be a good person but miss Mass every Sunday because you don't feel like going. I believe there are more things to do than to be good in getting to Heaven. [/quote] If you miss Mass every Sunday you are committing mortal sin. THat is not a way to get to heaven. Don't worry about being "good", work on HOLY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proud2BCatholic139 Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 I know, I was making a valid point that JUST being good will not get you to Heaven. I guess I worded it wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightofChrist Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 As Bishop Sheen was said... When we go to heaven, many of the people we thought we'd see we will not, and the some of the ones we thought we would not, we will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totus Tuus Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 (edited) [quote name='cmotherofpirl' post='1174314' date='Jan 23 2007, 07:38 PM'] define good. [/quote] My thoughts exactly [quote name='Proud2BCatholic139' post='1174336' date='Jan 23 2007, 08:08 PM'] because we are not God. [/quote] [quote name='StThomasMore' post='1174341' date='Jan 23 2007, 08:11 PM'] There will be no good people in hell, for any person who is good will die in a state of Sanctifying Grace. [/quote] If prose's definition of "good" means a person in sanctifying grace, then StThomasMore is right. We cannot know [i]who[/i] (as in specific persons) will be in hell, but we can know, according to the teachings of Holy Mother Church, that persons with mortal sins for which they were not invincibly ignorant will not be capable of entering heaven. Edited January 24, 2007 by Totus Tuus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LouisvilleFan Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 I refuse to speculate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Extra ecclesiam nulla salus Posted January 25, 2007 Share Posted January 25, 2007 most people i know i would consider good people, not because they are right about everything but because they are decent human beings who are caring, and nice and who do things for others. they are good people. According to the Church they may be destined for hell becasue of their refusal to accept the Church, and to submit themselves to the Pope. BUt they are good decent people all the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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