TruthSeeker777 Posted January 8, 2007 Share Posted January 8, 2007 [quote name='Era Might' post='1159058' date='Jan 8 2007, 11:53 PM'] Please don't paste long articles or text. Summarize what it says or abbreviate with ellipsis. Thank you. [/quote] THe Kids on this site need some guidance with music,they need information. Why complain about good CHRISTIAN help? Regardles of the length,you can't copy and paste pictures,it takes time. This person obviously have a brain, and is helping people. God Bless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FullTruth Posted January 8, 2007 Share Posted January 8, 2007 [quote name='Emile James' post='1158946' date='Jan 8 2007, 02:34 PM'] Grace and peace to you, regardless of overt satanic reference, its the not so open, false-light thats worse..for satan comes as an Angel of Light. most rap, Hip Hop, Metal, Rock heck,just plain Pop music of all kinds .etc etc. promote philosophies and ideas , Lifestyles and fantasy,contrary to Life hope peace, Truth in Lord Jesus Christ....rampant materialism,idol worship, false religion, hopelessness, false hope, out of control premarital sexual relations, greed,hatred of legitimate authority, stirring of The passions (Desert fathers kind),disobedience,lust,violence, darkness, escapism for its own sake, death,selfishness,dwelling on deprssion,ugliness, false Beauty....need i go on discern the Spirits... Philippians 4:8 Rejoice in the Lord always. I will say it again: Rejoice! 5Let your gentleness be evident to all. The Lord is near. 6Do not be anxious about anything, but in everything, by prayer and petition, with thanksgiving, present your requests to God. 7And the peace of God, which transcends all understanding, will guard your hearts and your minds in Christ Jesus. 8Finally, brothers, whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable—if anything is excellent or praiseworthy—think (dwell) on such things. 9Whatever you have learned or received or heard from me, or seen in me—put it into practice. And the God of peace will be with you. By His mercy, E-J. [img]http://home.it.net.au/~jgrapsas/Ikons/ladder.jpg[/img] [/quote] Bravo truth seeker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TruthSeeker777 Posted January 8, 2007 Share Posted January 8, 2007 Very insightful and great research. May Jesus bless you for your good intentions. I threw their albums away years ago after i read what they said about their involvement in the occult. God Bless i totally agree with you,much of classical music was into the occult. But we are talking about Heavy Metal at the moment:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didymus Posted January 8, 2007 Share Posted January 8, 2007 No one in this thread has denied your research yet though. The focus point is heavy metal as a genre. Writing an epical post cant prove an entire genre of music as evil just because of the bands that actually were trying to be as evil as possible. I still go back to my previous statement. DONT THROW THE BABY OUT WITH THE BATHWATER!!! [quote name='xTrishaxLynnx' post='1159035' date='Jan 8 2007, 03:28 PM'] [i]Sweeeeeeet [/i] dude So are ya hooked? [/quote] their lyrics are amazing! [b]Take this Oath - Killswitch Engage[/b] [i]Abandon the safety of mindless following, Abandon what holds us captive to suffering Pierce the blinders, behold The path that leads before you Let us forsake - forsake all the things That lead us to our demise Open your eyes, See the divine Open your eyes, See the... Destruction of innocence Watch it breathe it's last Open your eyes (behold the path before you), See the divine (forsake our demise) Open your eyes (behold the path before you), See the... Abandon the safety of mindless following To the grave we take this oath To leave this world behind Hear the words of the voice That lives inside Break free, this is your time Break free. To the grave Take this oath[/i] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thejUiCER Posted January 8, 2007 Share Posted January 8, 2007 Yea dude... Music, like all the different forms of media (tv, internet, radio, etc) are NEUTRAL THINGS. It can be used for good or evil. Perhaps the devil has been quicker they we have, but don't condemn the entire "Rock Genre" because of it. Beside when you make ambiguous statements all that does is make you look very narrowed minded. ps. we do appreciate your concern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fixxxer Posted January 8, 2007 Share Posted January 8, 2007 After thinking about it last night KISS' song god of thunder isnt about satan either. I'm pretty sure its about mythology Youve got something about you Youve got something I need [b]Daughter of aphrodite[/b] Hear my words and take heed I was born on [b]olympus[/b] To my father a son I was raised by the demons Trained to reign as the one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRMiller Posted January 8, 2007 Share Posted January 8, 2007 [quote name='the jUiCER' post='1159119' date='Jan 8 2007, 10:45 PM'] Yea dude... Music, like all the different forms of media (tv, internet, radio, etc) are NEUTRAL THINGS. It can be used for good or evil. Perhaps the devil has been quicker they we have, but don't condemn the entire "Rock Genre" because of it. Beside when you make ambiguous statements all that does is make you look very narrowed minded. ps. we do appreciate your concern. [/quote] I agree on its neutrality, usually. Really, I can find truth in a lot of songs, and I just change the words to suit me if I like the tune and most of what's being said. I turn the song into praise for Christ and reclaim it, as it were. But yeah, love rock. It's great moving to Liverpool, as such a Beatles fan, by the way, but off topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emile James Posted January 8, 2007 Share Posted January 8, 2007 (edited) THE point................ [img]http://farm1.static.flickr.com/131/350872674_1be85ad988.jpg[/img] athos Edited January 8, 2007 by Emile James Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Emile James Posted January 8, 2007 Share Posted January 8, 2007 (edited) [quote name='Urib2007' post='1159037' date='Jan 8 2007, 01:29 PM'] Not sure if anyone's a fan of The Rolling Stones, but here's some stuff I encountered for those who may like them. God Bless! [b]THE ROLLING STONES[/b] [ [b]Keith Richards[/b] long-time mistress (until the mid 80's), was [b]Anita Pallenberg[/b], a former heroin addict like himself. During the recording of the smash Stones' album "Emotional Rescue" in 1980,........etcetc [/quote] ------------------------------- Glory to Jesus the Christ! with respect, in dialogueing with young people on here..young being under 25, you might want to focus more on the modern music times and leave the 1960s to 1980s rock music "satan" fantasy scene...its all been said before by the Evang. Protestants when i was growing up a punk in the 80s.. Emile-James [img]http://sivinkit.net/archives/scratch.jpg[/img] Edited January 8, 2007 by Emile James Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thejUiCER Posted January 8, 2007 Share Posted January 8, 2007 [quote name='SRMiller' post='1159123' date='Jan 8 2007, 04:48 PM'] I agree on its neutrality, usually. Really, I can find truth in a lot of songs, and I just change the words to suit me if I like the tune and most of what's being said. I turn the song into praise for Christ and reclaim it, as it were. But yeah, love rock. It's great moving to Liverpool, as such a Beatles fan, by the way, but off topic. [/quote] ahah thats awesome, i thought i was the only one, who would change words of songs. Yess you are great!!! "You intended to harm me, but God intended it for good to accomplish what is now being done, the saving of many lives." -Gen50:20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRMiller Posted January 8, 2007 Share Posted January 8, 2007 [quote name='the jUiCER' post='1159160' date='Jan 8 2007, 11:08 PM'] ahah thats awesome, i thought i was the only one, who would change words of songs. Yess you are great!!! "You intended to harm me, but God intended it for good to accomplish what is now being done, the saving of many lives." -Gen50:20 [/quote] I thought I was the only one, too! Excellent! Great verse, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heavenseeker Posted January 8, 2007 Share Posted January 8, 2007 The truth of it is that the majority of roc kisnt as bad as what you say it is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seven77 Posted January 8, 2007 Share Posted January 8, 2007 to be sure, of course alot of metal IS satanic, but that doesn't mean all groups, etc are. some of those posted images and lyrics are indeed horrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xTrishaxLynnx Posted January 8, 2007 Share Posted January 8, 2007 So are you all (meaning those who have been raining blows on certain bands) opposed to using rock/metal in general to bring those who are fans of the genres closer to God? I think that salvation of souls is the main goal. Now, I don't believe the ends justify the means and that you should sin in order to achieve this goal, but I don't believe that listening to these types of music is sinful in itself. It [i][b]is[/b] [/i] music, whether it happens to give [i][b]you[/b][/i] a headache or not, and it's not impossible for it to be used for the greater Glory of God. [u][b]Ask Him In [/b][/u] by [b]Petra[/b] Words and music by Bob Hartman Now that you've heard the music Where do you go from here You see music only takes you to the place Where you're ready to hear We could sing and tell you we love you And you could say it wasn't true But how can you say that about a man Who died for you (Chorus) Jesus is holding out His love to you But He made it so that you have to choose How can you walk away empty again When you know that you've got nothing to lose You could probably think of a reason To wait until another day But the spirit is speaking, telling you Today is the day Jesus gave His life as a ransom Was crucified and laid in a grave But He rose again and made a new way For man to be saved Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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