Red Knight Posted January 8, 2007 Share Posted January 8, 2007 There are musicians that I find repulsive and that admit their message is anti-christian, Marilyn Manson is one of them. I read some interviews of the band Tool, and stopped listneing to them. ame thing with the Grateful Dead. I still listen to a lot of Megadeth, Metallica, and such. Did you know that Slayer's singer, Tom Araya, is Catholic? There is more to the story than a brief snippet of a lyric. There are definitely those in rock that are out to 'steal' your soul, most just want to sell a record or two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lterrebrood Posted January 8, 2007 Share Posted January 8, 2007 I think that it's good that people are trying to make others aware of this subject. I respect your opinion, but there are also completely opposite opinions that must also be respected. I think that songs habve more than one meaning and that they can't be looked at too extremely one way or another. Ah. I have more to say.. but must get back to class.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight of the Holy Rosary Posted January 8, 2007 Share Posted January 8, 2007 Does this music contribute anything good to society? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thejUiCER Posted January 8, 2007 Share Posted January 8, 2007 [quote name='Didymus' post='1158567' date='Jan 7 2007, 10:16 PM'] What a load of bull. You cant stereotype the entire genre. and I am darn right proud to be one of the contributors of the metalhead thread. Too much of this is based off of the judgement of people who dont even listen to this music, but they'll hear one word or phrase and believe the entire band is satanic. I'm not saying some of it is evil, but c'mon, most of the satanic stuff comes from fans. The big problem is is that satan sells. I'd bet some of you would think Metallica's 'No Remorse' is about the crucifixion, too. This is rediculous. The truth about rock music. Give me a break... [/quote] Didymus we are with you all the way. This post is ridiculous... “It’s better to light one candle than to curse the darkness.” ps "Hotel California" is about depicting drug/alcohol addiction, not satan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emile James Posted January 8, 2007 Share Posted January 8, 2007 (edited) Grace and peace to you, regardless of overt satanic reference, its the not so open, false-light thats worse..for satan comes as an Angel of Light. most rap, Hip Hop, Metal, Rock heck,just plain Pop music of all kinds .etc etc. promote philosophies and ideas , Lifestyles and fantasy,contrary to Life hope peace, Truth in Lord Jesus Christ....rampant materialism,idol worship, false religion, hopelessness, false hope, out of control premarital sexual relations, greed,hatred of legitimate authority, stirring of The passions (Desert fathers kind),disobedience,lust,violence, darkness, escapism for its own sake, death,selfishness,dwelling on deprssion,ugliness, false Beauty....need i go on discern the Spirits... Philippians 4:8 Rejoice in the Lord always. I will say it again: Rejoice! 5Let your gentleness be evident to all. The Lord is near. 6Do not be anxious about anything, but in everything, by prayer and petition, with thanksgiving, present your requests to God. 7And the peace of God, which transcends all understanding, will guard your hearts and your minds in Christ Jesus. 8Finally, brothers, whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable—if anything is excellent or praiseworthy—think (dwell) on such things. 9Whatever you have learned or received or heard from me, or seen in me—put it into practice. And the God of peace will be with you. By His mercy, E-J. [img]http://home.it.net.au/~jgrapsas/Ikons/ladder.jpg[/img] Edited January 8, 2007 by Emile James Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didymus Posted January 8, 2007 Share Posted January 8, 2007 EJ, what is that icon? Is there somewhere I can find it online to see it up close? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emile James Posted January 8, 2007 Share Posted January 8, 2007 (edited) [quote name='Didymus' post='1158958' date='Jan 8 2007, 11:56 AM'] EJ, what is that icon? Is there somewhere I can find it online to see it up close? [/quote] Glory to Jesus Christ! hello, no problem its the 'Ladder of Divine Ascent".. even Bishops, abbots, monks are being yanked of it by the Demons....thats St John Climacus, Abbot of [url="http://orthodoxwiki.org/St._Catherine%27s_Monastery_%28Sinai%29"]This MONASTERY[/url]at the time..7th Century.. on the top. rung... a [b]big [/b]image of THe ICON here [url="http://www.pitt.edu/AFShome/s/o/sorc/public/html/ocfellow/icons/ladder.jpg"]http://www.pitt.edu/AFShome/s/o/sorc/publi...cons/ladder.jpg[/url] nice explanation here [url="http://orthodoxwiki.org/Ladder_of_Divine_Ascent_icon"]http://orthodoxwiki.org/Ladder_of_Divine_Ascent_icon[/url] [url="http://orthodoxwiki.org/The_Ladder_of_Divine_Ascent"]http://orthodoxwiki.org/The_Ladder_of_Divine_Ascent[/url] ---- keep up the good fight courage and Peace, Emile-James book [url="http://www.amazon.com/John-Climacus-Classics-Western-Spirituality/dp/0809123304/ref=si3_rdr_bb_product/002-3361079-3888856"]http://www.amazon.com/John-Climacus-Classi...3361079-3888856[/url] Edited January 8, 2007 by Emile James Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TruthSeeker777 Posted January 8, 2007 Share Posted January 8, 2007 Finally someone sees right through Satan's evil and wicked work. It's amazing that people can call themselves Christians and at the same time, they're listening to such Satanic garbage. If you defend this dark suicidal music, you are in need of DELIVERANCE. The demons that have jumped into you while listening to this junk are making you defend Satan's work. Do you guys have an idea how many normal kids have committed suicide after listening to heavy metal songs over and over again? You're setting yourselves up for a big surprise because Satan is so into your face and you don't even know it. Urib2007 is right, I checked out the effects on subliminal messages. The research is freaking out there. They are designed to work better when you listen to them over and over. I can only pray that the LORD JESUS open your eyes and that the truth will set you free. Oh yeah, Fixxer, if you call that praying in the Metallica clip on Youtube, with the F..... Word, then you're sooooo lost. So let me get this right, you call what they did praying? Ha ha! They said a bunch of carp and then ended it with Amen.Thats a prayer???? Yeah... How blasphemous, how ignorant of God's Word. Seriously, snap out of it. Finally someone sees right through Satan's evil and wicked work. It's amazing that people can call themselves Christians and at the same time, they're listening to such Satanic garbage. If you defend this dark suicidal music, you are in need of DELIVERANCE. The demons that have jumped into you while listening to this junk are making you defend Satan's work. Do you guys have an idea how many normal kids have committed suicide after listening to heavy metal songs over and over again? You're setting yourselves up for a big surprise because Satan is so into your face and you don't even know it. Urib2007 is right, I checked out the effects on subliminal messages. The research is freaking out there. They are designed to work better when you listen to them over and over. I can only pray that the LORD JESUS open your eyes and that the truth will set you free. Oh yeah, Fixxer, if you call that praying in the Metallica clip on Youtube, with the F..... Word, then you're sooooo lost. So let me get this right, you call what they did praying? Ha ha! They said a bunch of carp and then ended it with Amen.Thats a prayer???? Yeah... How blasphemous, how ignorant of God's Word. Seriously, snap out of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didymus Posted January 8, 2007 Share Posted January 8, 2007 (edited) dude... how many have committed suicide after listening to classical music. Have you ever listened to Killswitch Engage, P.O.D. or even Seven Sorrows for that matter? [b]To the Sons of Man - Killswitch Engage[/b] [i]You son of man I am here as a witness you son of man can't you see what burns inside me this fire will consume as the flames purify with the peace that passes understanding this is my outcry from dust to dust we will return the flesh is temporary the soul is eternal I am here as a witness can't you see this fire purifies this fire will consume as the flames purify son of man can't you see son of man you can't save yourself[/i] [b]Alive - P.O.D.[/b] [i]Everyday is a new day I’m thankful for every breath I take I won’t take it for granted So I learn from my mistakes It’s beyond my control, sometimes it’s best to let go Whatever happens in this lifetime So I trust in love You have given me peace of mind I feel so alive for the very first time I can’t deny you I feel so alive I feel so alive for the very first time And I think I can fly Sunshine upon my face A new song for me to sing Tell the world how I feel inside Even though it might cost me everything Now that I know this, so beyond, I can’t hold this I can never turn my back away Now that I’ve seen you I can never look away Now that I know you (I could never turn my back away) Now that I see you (I could never look away) Now that I know you (I could never turn my back away) Now that I see you (I believe no matter what they say)[/i] Both of these bands have played at Ozzfest, meaning both of them play music (just like these) in front of a secular, 'pagan' audience. This means that these lyrics are not under strict christian labels but yet are selling albums and gaining popularity in mainstream rock/metal Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater... Edited January 8, 2007 by Didymus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xTrishaxLynnx Posted January 8, 2007 Share Posted January 8, 2007 [quote name='Didymus' post='1159031' date='Jan 8 2007, 03:25 PM'] dude... how many have committed suicide after listening to classical music. Have you ever listened to Killswitch Engage, P.O.D. or even Seven Sorrows for that matter? [b]To the Sons of Man - Killswitch Engage[/b] [i]You son of man I am here as a witness you son of man can't you see what burns inside me this fire will consume as the flames purify with the peace that passes understanding this is my outcry from dust to dust we will return the flesh is temporary the soul is eternal I am here as a witness can't you see this fire purifies this fire will consume as the flames purify son of man can't you see son of man you can't save yourself[/i] [/quote] [i]Sweeeeeeet [/i] dude So are ya hooked? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urib2007 Posted January 8, 2007 Author Share Posted January 8, 2007 (edited) Not sure if anyone's a fan of The Rolling Stones, but here's some stuff I encountered for those who may like them. God Bless! [b]THE ROLLING STONES[/b] [img]http://msnbcmedia1.msn.com/j/ap/64eaaeb4-b445-4a86-b29e-4bfac896b651.widec.jpg[/img] [b]Keith Richards[/b] long-time mistress (until the mid 80's), was [b]Anita Pallenberg[/b], a former heroin addict like himself. During the recording of the smash Stones' album "Emotional Rescue" in 1980, Keith worked in Paris as Anita added another bizarre chapter to the already bloated anthology of weird Stones' catastrophes. Below is a picture of Anita Pallenberg taken in 1973. A 17-year-old caretaker at the Richards' New England estate was found shot to death in Anita Pallenberg's bed. Anita was home at the time. A subsequent police investigation and court appearance by Pallenberg resulted in her being fined for possessing an unregistered hand gun, (the "suicide" weapon). An article reprinted from the English pulp newspaper "Midnite," quoted a Ridgefield, Connecticut police officer named Michael Passaro as having investigated "strange singing" coming from the woods a quarter mile from Keith Richards' New England mansion, (the same house where the teenage caretaker was found dead). According to "Midnite," [color="#000099"]"There have been several bizarre satanic rituals in the area over the past 5 years. A local reporter attributed the outbreak of occultism to 'rich people taking Acid.'"[/color] Here is a picture of Anita and Brian Jones in 1967 in Tangier. [img]http://mauve.wordpress.com/files/2006/06/BrianJones_Pallenberg.jpg[/img] To fully comprehend Pallenberg's eerie devilish relationship to the disasters which seem to constantly befall The Stones and their entourage, some background on this self-proclaimed sorceress might be helpful. Anita first met the Rolling Stones in 1965, during the initial wave of their enormous popularity. She refused to reveal any details of her life, and really, such things were unimportant, given her stunning beauty and obviously sophisticated intelligence. She would only say that she was a European actress. Pallenberg soon began an intense relationship with[b] founding member Brian Jones[/b], a neurotic and sadistically cruel man whose sexual and narcotic appetites were quickly reaching legendary proportions. This relationship ended ultimately in Jones' miserable death in 1969, caused in part by Anita's desertion of him for Keith Richards as her new lover. Picture of Brian below. [img]http://www.classicrockpage.com/rrheaven/images/jones.gif[/img] Brian Jones had been in need of psychological help for years, according to early Stones' mentor Giorgio Gomelski, who gave them their first steady job at his Crawdaddy Club. Brian was "A boy who should have had treatment; his responses were never those of a normal person," Gomelski is quoted saying in George Tremlett's "The Rolling Stones." In terms of pure evil incarnate decadence, Lewis Brian Hopkins Jones holds no peers. Here is his philosophy on life: [color="#000099"]"What has proved to be the ruination of many people has been the making of me. I went against everything I had been brought up to believe in." [/color] Jones had several illegitimate children before meeting Pallenberg. He simply ignored them and their mothers. Shortly after inviting Anita to live with him, Jones refused to even see one of his former girlfriends who was begging him for some kind of child support. He and Anita giggled inside his apartment while the girl and her baby cried helplessly outside the locked door. Jones carried a dog chain with him. He often used it to beat his women. Sometimes he would break a bottle over a table edge, then carry the jagged neck in his pocket to slash anyone who annoyed him. He once bragged of sleeping with 60 women in one month, which was no big deal to someone as drenched in sexual debauchery as he. His graceful charm and wickedly ageless features enabled Brian Jones to scale heights and mount conquests in the ultra chic London society of 1965 that would never have been available normally to a man of his lower-middle-class background. His private life was much different from the public persona, however. Misery and self-doubting paranoia dogged him all the days of his short life, like a demon at his back. Not content to send his own soul to Hell, Jones constantly felt the need to drag his friends down into the abyss with him. In Anita Pallenberg, he found a perfect partner for his brutal games. With Pallenberg a willing helper, these two evil creatures descended to depths of druggish depravity better left unsaid. Pallenberg was Jones [u][b]used LSD and practiced Black Magic.[/b][/u] The mind-eating drug quickly became the focal point of Jones' sordid lifestyle, marking the beginning of the end of his brief career.[color="#990000"][b]The evil spells they cast together opened the doors to a series of weird events still not fully understood thirty years later.[/b][/color] The next few years would find Jones a near vegetable, his mind blown from abuse of nearly every drug known to man. Busted time and again by police, sentenced to prison, fined unmercifully many times in court, he still stubbornly refused to change his decadent ways. Instead, he retreated further and further within himself until, at least, the final crushing blow to his wasted life fell. Beaten and degraded once too often, Anita left him for Keith Richards. Below you can see Anita, Brian Jones and a young Mick Jagger. [img]http://www.keno.org/stones_images/Mick_Keef_99.jpg[/img] Brian Jones' whirlwind descent into misery and suicidal self-destruction had begun. Many times The Rolling Stones' guitarist would seem to regain control of his drug shattered existence only to slip back into self-inflicted churning whirlpool that was eating him alive. After an aborted attempt to drown himself at Keith Richards' English estate at Redlands, Jones seemed to snap out of his suicidal nightmare momentarily. He flew to North Africa for a long vacation where he met [b]Brion Gysin[/b] and recorded [b]"The Pipes of Pan At Joujouka," an album featuring primitive devil worshipers using music to call up demons.[/b] [img]http://991.com/newgallery//Brian-Jones-Plays-With-The-Pi-363818.jpg[/img] [b]Brion Gysin[/b] was a photographer who was intimately acquainted with the Joujouka tribe. When their paths crossed, Jones' excitement at capturing an authentic demon calling ceremony on tape knew no bounds. With his insatiable appetite for the occult, he was immediately transfixed by Gysin's description of the primitive tribe's weird activities. The two travelers soon set off for the mountains. A European sound man with an expensive Uher tape recorder tagged along. They arrived at Joujouka just before the Rites of Pan Festival, a yearly event in which the natives worked their infernal magic while under the influence of masses of psychedelics. Mesmerized by the music of the voodoo ritual, the tribesmen spun in circles and fell to the ground like epileptics having fits. Their bodies were painted to represent ancient primeval forces like the Greek god Pan. [img]http://www.wicca.com/celtic/catalog/statues/images/pan.jpg[/img] Jones and his friends stood in the middle of the screaming, sweating throng, their microphones held high and their tapes rolling while all around them the natives howled and leaped as the power of Satan's demons washed over them. Days later, Brian Jones became convinced that a goat sacrifice by the Joujoukans was meant as a curse of death aimed directly at him. He wasted no time in packing up his sound equipment and returning to London. With his demonic tapes in hand, he entered in a recording studio to expand on the hellish sounds of the Joujouka ceremony. Listening to the tapes backwards and forwards, Jones used sophisticated studio techniques to add electronic overdubs to the music, eventually releasing the finished product as an album. Not content with simply producing a cursed record of actual demon calls, he quickly incorporated much of the Joujouka musical styles he had memorized into the next Rolling Stones album as well. [b]Its title: "Their Satanic Majesties Request"[/b] This project was the beginning of the end for Brian Jones. As he was growing more and more dependent on his masses of pills and powders, Brian became proportionately less and less dependable to the other Stones. Showing up late at studios too stoned to play, his traveling visas revoked because of his many drug trials and convictions, unable to tour with the band he had originated, a whining, sobbing, emotional wreck, Jagger and Richards finally had no choice but to fire Brian Jones, the man who had started The Rolling Stones in the first place. They agreed to pay him $240,000 per year for as long as the group stayed together as compensation. He took the news well and set about auditioning members for a new band. Much time was also spent improving and renovating his newly purchased English estate at Cotchford Farm, former home of "Winnie the Pooh" creator A.A. Milne. At midnight on July 2, 1969, Brian Jones died. His death is still shrouded in mystery. The official police report states that only 3 other people were present at Cotchford Farm that evening. Yet Keith Richards himself said in a later interview with Rolling Stone Magazine that, according to his sources, a wild party had been in progress at the estate the night of Jones' death. [color="#000099"][b]Richards:[/b] "Some very weird things happened that night Brian died... there were people there that suddenly disappeared... And someone called us up at midnight and said: 'Brian's dead'..."[/color] Though he suffered from occasional asthma attacks, and an asthma inhaler was found by the swimming pool the next day, the autopsy report stated that no evidence of an asthma attack had been found in the dead man's lungs, only that he had drowned in what was officially labeled "Death By Misadventure." Even though he was often extremely paranoid, even psychotically so, Brian did not take his own life, swears Alexis Korner, the man who discovered singer [b]Mick Jagger.[/b] An old friend and confidante who knew all the Stones as well as anyone on earth, Korner spoke at length about Brian's death: [color="#000099"]"I really think it was a mistake. I don't think he deliberately planned to commit suicide... because he was happy at the time. At least he died when he was beginning to feel happy..."[/color] If Brian Jones didn't commit suicide, then exactly what were the circumstances surrounding his death? In his surreal world of orgiastic parties and massive, uncontrolled drug intake, could the Rock star have simply fallen into his own swimming pool and been too stoned to get out? Or is it possible that some person or persons wouldn't let him get out of the pool, holding his alcohol and drug devoured body under the water until he stopped breathing? The only evidence to support such a theory is the fact a few days after his death, someone entered Jones' house, using a key, and stripped it of everything of any value. Furniture, expensive rugs, musical instruments, recordings and sound equipment --- nothing was left. [b][color="#CC0000"]Jones was a firm believer in astrology and the occult. His insatiable thirst for fiendish explorations into the darker side of human nature opened the door to forces beyond his control. Some of his closest friends were practicing Satanists. Were demon spirits unleashed that hot summer night to put an end to the former Stone?[/b][/color] Brian Jones was convinced a curse had been placed on him during his stay at the voodooish village of Joujouka -- a curse of death which relentlessly followed him across two continents. This evil man died at just the right time for The Stones' career to really take off. Having served his purpose guiding the band through 6 years of garish, exhibitionist, immoral anarchy, court trials and screaming newspaper headlines, (which only served to catapult them to ever higher levels of popularity), this dangerous madman died, thereby ensuring THROUGH HIS MARTYRDOM that The Rolling Stones would become the biggest, most influential Rock act the world has ever seen. The Stones also have a member who probably holds the world's record for avoiding drug prosecution:[b]Keith Richards.[/b] This man has been known to kick fans at the edge of the stage in the face and knock photographers down flights of stairs. Advocating complete decadent amorality, Richards was Brian Jones' apt pupil during the Stones' heyday in the early 60's. Having surpassed his late mentor in hedonistic debauchery long ago, this miserable wretch wrote what surely must be the final chapter in a long wasted life of brutal excess. Under Canadian indictment for heroin trafficking in 1977, Richards, a hopelessly addicted junkie, had his [b]ENTIRE BLOOD SUPPLY[/b] transfused with a fresh eight pints by a Florida doctor flown to Switzerland especially for the occasion. Thus, no more heroin addiction for the court appointed tests... until the next fix. Richards has allegedly undergone this operation several times, replenishing his drug decayed body with fresh blood of innocent donors. The following is some of the wit and wisdom of Richards: [color="#000099"][b]On the power of evil:[/b] "Kenneth Anger told me I was his right hand man... Once you start, there's no going back..." [b]On drugs:[/b] "If you're gonna get wasted, get wasted elegantly." [b]On law and order:[/b] "I mean, your laws don't apply to me..." [b]On Rock & Roll:[/b] "Rock and roll starts from the neck down... Nukes may obsess your brain, but they really don't obsess your crotch. It's a few minutes when you can forget about nukes and racism and all the other evils God's kindly thrown upon us..."[/color] An extremely sickening scene is depicted in the book Keith Richards --- "Life As A Rolling Stone,' by Barbara Charone, giving us a glimpse into just how a rock star relaxes at home between concert tours and recording dates. Keith's favorite pastime was staring at TV or into the fireplace of his English estate, Redlands. When boredom became too unbearable, he would inject heroin into his body. Anita Pallenberg, also a junkie, would spend most of her day changing clothes, snorting cocaine, and alternatively babbling nonsense before flying into a screaming rage. The couple's young boy, Marlon, (judging by photographs, Marlon appeared to be about 7 years old at the time), was a constant witness to everything. Here's a picture of Anita Pallenberg with Keith Richards and their son, Marlon. Keith would bring out his "works," a needle, syringe, rubber tube to tie off the vein, the packet of heroin, of course, and a spoon to hold the powder as it was turned into liquid prior to injection. This man, the adored idol to millions of youngsters not much older than his son, would sit in the living room in front of his little boy and shove a needle into his arm. Imagine Marlon watching his father remove the syringe, then slump back in his seat as the "Smack" knocked him out momentarily, his eyes rolling up in his head and his mouth drooling. In performance during the heroin years, (roughly 1971 to 1979), Keith was an eerie, shambling monster on stage, with his vacant skeletal grin and drug dimmed, lackluster appearance. He wallowed in his image as the amoral druggie outcast, bragging of his fascination with illicit chemicals and [b]Black Magic[/b] on many occasions for fawning interviewers and writers anxious to please the famous rocker. [img]http://www.genesis-publications.com/fame/exile_keith.jpg[/img] Discussing Keith Richards brings up and interesting topic -- are Rock stars as stupid as they appear? Just to look and listen to them, one would think that they were barely smart enough to tie their own shoes. My opinion is that sometimes a few of them are indeed functional idiots, but more often than not, they are possessed of a high, (or perhaps Higher) intelligence. Mick Jagger, Keith Richards, and Anita Pallenberg are all extremely astute and knowledgeable people, but jaded and unwholesome in their intellectual scope. The vast quantities of psychoactive drugs they have ingested over the years, combined with their life in the fast lane existence has smartened them above and beyond the norm. What good has it done them, except to insulate them from the real world and plunge them into a paranoid, totally self-indulgent prison of their own making? Instead of trying to help others through the knowledge they possess, they continually plow it back into the perpetuation of Rock and Roll, a dead-end street if ever there was one. These people are the road crew of the Highway to Hell. Keith's flirtation with the Black Arts was greatly advanced by the woman he had stolen from Brian Jones: Anita Pallenberg. The whole affair very quickly got completely out of hand. How? In the late 60's, Anita became acquainted with one of the foremost warlock-satanists of this century ---- Kenneth Anger. A pioneer in avant-garde cinema, a film maker, Anger is not your run-of-the-mill movie director. He completed a movie about incest before his 12th birthday. The film that launched his career, "Fireworks," was made when he was 17. It contained scenes of startling and grotesque sexual imagery, [mod]Edited. --Era Might[/mod] Anita was fascinated by Anger's self proclaimed powers of darkness. She practiced witchcraft under his teaching, casting spells on her personal enemies with great success. She kept old bones, roots, and pieces of animals locked away in a bureau for safekeeping, to be used later during her devil worshiping rituals. She wore garlic around her neck when sleeping to ward off vampires! EEK! Here is [color="#CC0000"][b]Kenneth Anger's[/b][/color] personal opinion on both Anita and Brian Jones, a man he knew well, as printed in an interview conducted by David Dalton and Richard Henderson which later appeared in Dalton's exhaustive study of the Stones: [color="#000099"]Anger: "I believe that Anita is, for want of a better word, a witch... The occult unit within The Stones was Keith and Anita... and Brian. You see, Brian was a witch, too. I'm convinced. He showed me his witch's tit. He had a supernumerary tit in a very sexy place on his inner thigh. He said: 'In another time they would have burned me.'"[/color] In 1969, [b]Kenneth Anger[/b] released an 11 minute film he had spent his life working on: "Invocation Of My Demon Brother." [b]Mick Jagger[/b] contributed to the music for the score; his brother Chris acted in the infamous mass of celluloid, as did Mick's girlfriend at the time, Marianne Faithfull. The actor portraying Lucifer was a young Californian named [b]Bobby Beausoleil,[/b] a former member of the West Coast Rock group "Love." After months of filming, Beausoleil went berserk, stealing Anger's car and several prints of the devilish film. He then fled London for California. Here's a pic of Kenneth Anger. [img]http://www.nndb.com/people/195/000112856/kenneth%20anger.jpg[/img] Shortly thereafter, Beausoleil carried out a grisly murder in Los Angeles. Left behind was a mutilated, butchered corpse and the words "Political Piggy" dripping in blood down the wall of the victim's apartment. Tried and jailed for the crime, it would be months before a chilling fact would come to light: Bobby Beausoleil's closest friend was mass murderer [b]Charles Manson![/b] Here is Kenneth Anger's own description of "Invocation of My Demon Brother:" "The shadowing forth of our Lord Lucifer as the Powers of Darkness gather at a midnight mass." Playing His satanic Majesty in the film was [b]Anton Szandor La Vey[/b], author of a satanic Bible and head of San Francisco's First Church of Satan. What a coincidence it is that The Rolling Stones had released a record in 1967 titled "Their Satanic Majesties Request." Nightmarish and dreamy songs, combined with a mystical, occultish concept for the LP's cover and inner sleeve, marked the record as a thoroughly drugged piece of negativism. The Stones had originally wanted a picture of a naked Mick Jagger hanging on a cross to adorn the inside of the album, but this idea was later discarded. Everyone associated with Kenneth Anger has suffered from that association in one way or another. Keith Richards and Anita Pallenberg, originally close friends with the Satanist, later fearfully backed out of having Anger marry them in a pagan wedding ceremony, frightened by his powers. They were convinced he had the ability to enter their home in spirit form whenever he wished, bypassing the heavily locked doors and multitudes of sophisticated alarm systems installed throughout the mansion. Kenneth Anger talked with the man who killed [b]John Lennon[/b] --- [b]Mark David Chapman[/b] --- 6 weeks before the murder took place in late 1980. Chapman was attending a film lecture given by Anger in Hawaii where Chapman lived at the time. Lennon's killer met with Anger after the lecture, pumping the demonologist with questions about John and Yoko. Six weeks later, Lennon was dead. [b]Anger so excited Led Zeppelin guitar genius Jimmy Page with tales of the legendary psycho-sexual necromancer [color="#660000"]Aleister Crowley (1875-1947)[/color], that Page immediately bought Crowley's ancient abanodoned castle on the shores of Loch Ness, Scotland. The next few years would find Led Zeppelin fighting off disaster after tragic disaster until the group finally disintegrated over the ultimately death of their drummer in 1980.[/b] [b]Kenneth Anger claims to belong to the same demonic secret society as his depraved mentor, Aleister Crowley, the self-proclaimed "Beast 666." The society is called "The Order of the Golden Dawn," and both Anger and Crowley bear the title of "Magus," the loftiest ascension possible in their occult Brotherhood. Anger himself played the part of Magus in "Invocation of My Demon Brother." It should be obvious that the demon brother in question was the dead Aleister Crowley.[/b] At Crowley's English funeral at Brighton in 1947, his followers were instructed to recite his self-composed poem, "Hymn to Pan" as his body was set afire. Pan was the musical sex god of the fields, according to Greek mythology. His upper torso was that of a man; his legs and cloven hoofs were those of a goat (like the character on the Chronicles of Narnia film). This morbid, dangerous fascination with the dead mystic Crowley doesn't stop Aleister Crowley with the Rolling Stones and Led Zeppelin, however. Other prominet Rockers have also discovered the evil Black Magician, using his name to promote their own insanity. [b]Ozzy Osbourne, for example, the former lead singer for satanic rock group Black Sabbath, has a song on his 1981 "Blizzard of Oz" album entitled "Mr. Crowley." Flying from continent to continent and country to country, the ancient evil of Satan has swallowed up more than one Rock star foolish enough to dabble with the Devil. The Rolling Stones were both victims and vessels for this arcane power to flow through. Here's the Rolling Stones' album "Satanic Majesties."[/b] Beginning in 1967 with "Satanic Majesties,"The Stones have mined the sulphurous mother lode of Rock and Roll demonism with a vengeance. Their blockbuster LP "Goat's Head Soup" featured a pull out poster of a rotting goat's head swimming in a boiling cauldron. [img]http://www.djolley.com/stones/images/rs_ghs_art.jpg[/img] The songs on the album were laced with references to witchcraft, such as burning "your bell, book, and candle" on "Winter," and a meeting with a decayed corpse in a graveyard in "Dancing with Mr. D." The title of their 1969 live album, "Get Yer Ya Ya's Out," was taken from an African voodoo chant. On December 6, 1969, The Rolling Stones held a free concert at Altamont Speedway, in California. The next day the world was shoced to hear of the brutal stabbing of a member of the audience at the infamous event. A disaster in every sense of the word, the concert was an ill-planned, last minute affair which reached fruition only by the megalomanic demands of Mick Jagger. He wished to have a film of a concert to rival Woodstock, with the Stones as head gurus. Having hired California's Hell's Angels as "security" for the concert in return for $500 worth of beer, The Stones looked helplessly as the Angels sadistically beat members of the audience with pool cues, threatened them with knives and guns, and drove their motorcylces through the dazed crowd on bets, heedless of who they ran over. One young black man named Meredith Hunter was seen waving a pistol at the stage where The Rolling Stones cavorted, spinning their insane tapestry of musical violence, a few feet away. Half a dozen Hell's Angels jumped on the unfortuante boy, stabbing him to death and grinding a bucket into his eyes. When the deadly concert was at last over, Mick Jagger left the stage after thanking the Angels profusely for their "protection." A young writer named Stanley Booth was traveling with The Stones all through the Altamont period, gathering material for a book that eventually was p ublished in 1984 titled, "Dance With The Devil." Booth himself was backstage at Altamont, and also shared in the sins of The Stones' sick lifestyle while on the road with them. There are two accounts in his book that paint a perfect picture of just what it is like to be a guest in The Stones' evil empire at that time. Petty criminals that they were, The Rolling Stones recorded one of their biggest selling albums of all time, "Sticky Fingers," ILLEGALLY while on their 1969 U.S. Tour. None of The Rolling Stones were members of any Musicians' Union at the time, and didn't want to be, either. The band sneaked in and out of recording studios all through the South in the dead of night. Rather than pay a simple paltry fee and abide by the law, The Stones thumbed their noses at America and made a smash record without abiding by any of the rules lesser mortals must follow. Another revealing insight into the sexual side of Stones' tours also comes from Booth's book, where a young female fan says, "The Stones' third tour, when I was 18, opened my eyes to --- everything... [mod]Edited. --Era Might[/mod] Finally, Stanley Booth interviewed Brian Jones' father after Brian's miserable death. The elder Jones summed up the total philosophy of his son, the other Stones, and millions of kids around the globe when he said,[color="#000099"] "Brian was obsessed with music... These records were playing morning, noon, and night. I saw it as a positive evil in his life, undermining a quite good career. Maybe music was his eventual downfall, but at the time I saw it as an evil because he was so obsessed... But to him --- a religion it was, he was a fanatic..."[/color] As the Stones roll on through the millenium, they show no signs of discarding their Black Magic persona. It's proven far valuable for them commercially, and who knows, perhaps it is no longer "just an image," (in reality, it never was). To promote their 1981 LP "Tattoo You," The Rolling Stones embarked on a standing-room-only sellout tour which would, by some reports, gross them well over $80,000,000. Eternally youthful, more popular than ever, the devilish pact The Stones made almost four decades ago is working still, its power undimmed by the passage of time. As they rally whole new generations of ever increasing converts under their decaying, demonic, drug drenched banner, it becomes obvious that their sickening goals haven't changed one bit over the years. "Tattoo You" and "Voodoo Lounge" are their most recent examples. The inner sleeve of "Tattoo You" is a black and white photo of a cloven hoofed goat's foot in high heels. The Rolling Stones' massive, far reaching influence is not limited simply to untold legions of rabid fans, however. Countless scores of Rock bands anxious to mimic The Stones' success have hit the big time riding the same horse of devils, drugs, & destruction. Edited January 8, 2007 by Era Might Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thejUiCER Posted January 8, 2007 Share Posted January 8, 2007 Are you just copying and pasting things into the phorum? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Era Might Posted January 8, 2007 Share Posted January 8, 2007 Please don't paste long articles or text. Summarize what it says or abbreviate with ellipsis. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urib2007 Posted January 8, 2007 Author Share Posted January 8, 2007 [quote name='the jUiCER' post='1159055' date='Jan 8 2007, 01:51 PM'] Are you just copying and pasting things into the phorum? [/quote] No, I did not copy and paste. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Era Might Posted January 8, 2007 Share Posted January 8, 2007 Did you just write all that yourself? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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