Jake Huether Posted January 20, 2004 Share Posted January 20, 2004 Can someone provide a list of when and by who (or how) the world religions started. Not necessarily all the Protestant denoms, because generally speaking they all began after the 1500's. But for example, when and how did the Islam spring up. Or Budhists. Etc. Thanks... I'm asking, because one of my "Catholic" (who is searching his faith) friends was saying that he had heard there was a religion before the Catholic faith other than Jewish. That being said, also please indicate whether or not the "begining" of the religion is a claim or is substantiated (like if Joe shmow says his religion began in 2000bc, but it really began in 1995ad). Thanks a million. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aloysius Posted January 20, 2004 Share Posted January 20, 2004 the only one you could say was b4 Catholocism still around today is Hinduism, but really when you go all the way back it wasn't really a religion just a bunch of people around india and that with all these different gods they'd make up stories about and pass down. it really has more element of myths than religion. whereas we have a historically based religion, Jesus Christ existed, all the Jewish Patriarchs existed, the early Church fathers existed, and so on. but nothing in any hindu account of hindu gods is historical at all, it's just myth, and all these myths were floatin around india b4 we came along but really weren't compiled into the religion they are now for a while. and even now, it's a totally different concept. they just take the hindu gods.. its kinda like new age stuff. they say that there is one god and that all those hindu gods are all just manifestations of him (err.. why do they fight each other and stuff? but yeah) clearly this is not how they were originally perceived and it really doesn't fit in line with any of the stories about them. they also just adopt other religions gods as manifestations, accepting Jesus Christ as the same as Krishna, Allah is another manifestation, etc. etc. so technically, the hindu of today is not the hindu of b4 Christianity, it's a totally dif religion. and that's the only one that can remotely compete with us in ancience. srry i don't got dates or nuthin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DojoGrant Posted January 20, 2004 Share Posted January 20, 2004 Buddha lived in the 5th century BC. While he wrote nothing, he had many followers who did. Buddhism is older than Christianity. Zoroastrianism also predates Christianity, although it is more or less gone these days (though probably still around in small groups in the middle east). I am unaware of the beginning dates of such religions as Jainism, Sihkism, Shintoism. Of course, there is also the ancient Sumarian, Babylonian, Akkadian, and Assyrian religions, as well as that of ancient Egypt. But I assume you mean religions that still exist today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironmonk Posted January 20, 2004 Share Posted January 20, 2004 the only one you could say was b4 Catholocism still around today is Hinduism, but really when you go all the way back it wasn't really a religion just a bunch of people around india and that with all these different gods they'd make up stories about and pass down. it really has more element of myths than religion. whereas we have a historically based religion, Jesus Christ existed, all the Jewish Patriarchs existed, the early Church fathers existed, and so on. but nothing in any hindu account of hindu gods is historical at all, it's just myth, and all these myths were floatin around india b4 we came along but really weren't compiled into the religion they are now for a while. and even now, it's a totally different concept. they just take the hindu gods.. its kinda like new age stuff. they say that there is one god and that all those hindu gods are all just manifestations of him (err.. why do they fight each other and stuff? but yeah) clearly this is not how they were originally perceived and it really doesn't fit in line with any of the stories about them. they also just adopt other religions gods as manifestations, accepting Jesus Christ as the same as Krishna, Allah is another manifestation, etc. etc. so technically, the hindu of today is not the hindu of b4 Christianity, it's a totally dif religion. and that's the only one that can remotely compete with us in ancience. srry i don't got dates or nuthin. We are studying Hinduism in my World Religion class... hinduism has evolved and has different sects, and it is the same Hinduism that was around before the Church... but it is not older than the religion of the God of Abraham (the Jewish as we know it). Hinduism dates back to about 2500 BC - I don't have my book w/me - I'll try to remember to look it up tonight when I get home. The book's inside cover is a timeline of when the eastern religions began. Many Hindu's actually believe in One God, but God has many "faces"... some are under the impression that they worship cows... but they actually worship God that is in the cow. God Bless, ironmonk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archangel Posted January 20, 2004 Share Posted January 20, 2004 Jake, You can find a small table of world religions over here: http://www.sacred-texts.com/time/origtime.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Huether Posted January 20, 2004 Author Share Posted January 20, 2004 Very nice guys. Thanks! Hey, so since Hinduism was around before the Jewish religion, what is the discredit. Or should I say, who started it and why??? I'll try to look it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DojoGrant Posted January 20, 2004 Share Posted January 20, 2004 One cannot ask "who started Hindisum." The name was given them by the British in India, referring to the Hindu region. Hinduism is very diverified. You're going to find, MOST of the time, the belief in karma and samsara, that there is no personal self, but an undying self, Atman, which is present in all life. There are multiple ways believed to end samsara (the cycle of dying and rebirth), and all kinds of schools of thought that are simply lumped together as "Hinduism." Buddhism sprang forth from Hinduism, but denies the existence of a self whatsoever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PedroX Posted January 20, 2004 Share Posted January 20, 2004 Jake, Judaism started with Adam and Eve. God gave laws before the ten commandments, and was certainly worshipped before Hinduism started. False religions don't show up until possibly Cain, and most likely the Tower of Babel. Al, don't be misled by American/Western Hindus. Hinduism in India is very much a dark, and demonic religion. Sacrifices of all kinds are still carried out in temples across India and Nepal (the only Hindu kingdom left). peace... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironmonk Posted January 21, 2004 Share Posted January 21, 2004 Hinduism and Judaism were both prehistory... Archeological studies support the great flood and many other accounts in the bible. Hinduism is not older than Judaism. Abraham arrived in Canaan around 1800 BC... how many hundreds of years before Abraham did we have the faith? No written record of it. Taoism and Confucianism started about 600-500 BC... Jainism about 599-527 BC... Buddhism about 563-483 BC ... I've got a couple theories for Hinduism and all the other false religions... 1) Fallen angels posing as deities... as we see in Gen. 6:8 that fallen angels came to earth and took women, that bore them sons who where the heros of old... if they were able to do things like that, and we know that demons walk the earth, then what's to stop them from making deals with men to get others to worship them, or appear to be gods? As we know that satan likes to masquarade as an angel of light.... Satan would even appear to St. Pio as Mary or Christ. (if I remember correctly) 2) We can see many truths in the teachings of the false religions, they could have been lost children and had poor oral history telling... that would explain why these other faiths have many similarities to Christianity. Your Servant, ironmonk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phatcatholic Posted January 21, 2004 Share Posted January 21, 2004 i found this when reading about Mary as the Mother of God, and i thought it would be an interesting addition to this thread: History of Mary's Divine Maternity One of the lesser known facts about the Council of Ephesus is that not all the bishops accepted the Council's definition. Not a few of them, especially in the East, sided with Nestorius and thereupon broke their unity with Rome and the Catholic Church. Thus the seed was sown for disunity among Christians, whose fruit was to be seen only as the centuries went on. Not the least of this bitter fruit was the growth of Islam, two hundred years later, when Mohammed proclaimed a new religion in 622 A.D. It is no coincidence, but one of the tragic ironies of history, that when Mohammed rose as a prophet, the dominant form of Christianity with which he came into contact was Nestorianism. It is no wonder that, when he came to write the Koran, Mohammed showed great respect for Miriam, the mother of Isa (Jesus). But Mohammed insisted that she was only the mother of a human being; that Jesus was not divine. Mohammed defined a Christian as one who, erroneously, claims that Jesus is more than Ibn Miriam, the son of Mary; that He is actually Ibn Allah, the Son of God. With over five hundred million Moslems in the world today, it is one of the "ifs" of history to speculate on what would have been the course of Christianity if all the bishops at Ephesus had remained faithful to their apostolic heritage, and accepted Mary as not only (like Mohammed) the Mother of Jesus, but the Mother of her Creator, who received from Mary the human nature through which He redeemed the world. We may almost say that the Council of Ephesus was the watershed that has divided the professed followers of Christ ever since. from The Mother of God by John A. Hardon, S.J. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phatcatholic Posted January 22, 2004 Share Posted January 22, 2004 i found this amesome link that gives you ALL the information you need in a tidy little chart: Origins of Well-Known Non-Christian Religions enjoy, phatcatholic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phatcatholic Posted January 23, 2004 Share Posted January 23, 2004 bump...................for Jake, so he doesn't miss the link i posted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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