the_rev Posted January 2, 2007 Share Posted January 2, 2007 Why is the death penalty an issue of importance. How does one defend the Catholic stance against the death penalty? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmotherofpirl Posted January 2, 2007 Share Posted January 2, 2007 Why are you asking? THere are probably 50 threads on this topic, please review them first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_rev Posted January 2, 2007 Author Share Posted January 2, 2007 sorry I don't have enough time as you do. I also don't subscribe to the philosophy of "Do as I say, not as I do" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IcePrincessKRS Posted January 2, 2007 Share Posted January 2, 2007 You don't need to read all of them, reviewing one would be more than sufficient, I think. Even look at the recent threads about Saddam Hussein's execution and there is discussion of the death penalty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didymus Posted January 2, 2007 Share Posted January 2, 2007 The Catholic stance is 'against'? I think its more complicated than that. This was debated recently in the debate forum, but i think St. Thomas was brought up. He writes on the death penalty in the Summa, however, the idea of severing off the 'limb that harms the rest of the body' can be acheived through other means with our advancements of technology. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrossCuT Posted January 2, 2007 Share Posted January 2, 2007 (edited) [size=1]I dont like the death penalty. Thou shalt not kill. I agree with my high school religion teacher when he said it should be changed to "Thou shalt not murder" You can kill if its in self defense, but not otherwise. I dont think that killing a murder convict is self defense because he is not harming you while he is in a jail cell. Your life is not threatened. And if you argue that we will run out of room in jail cells so the death penalty is necessary, its the same as saying "Abortion is population control" But I dunno BLAH [/size] Edited January 2, 2007 by CrossCuT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil Red Posted January 2, 2007 Share Posted January 2, 2007 [quote name='the_rev' post='1154809' date='Jan 2 2007, 03:36 PM']sorry I don't have enough time as you do. I also don't subscribe to the philosophy of "Do as I say, not as I do"[/quote]wow, that's kind of a snippy response, isn't it? anyway, here are some of the threads i could find: [url="http://www.phatmass.com/phorum/index.php?showtopic=22124"]Death Penalty[/url] [url="http://www.phatmass.com/phorum/index.php?showtopic=9406"]http://www.phatmass.com/phorum/index.php?showtopic=9406[/url] [url="http://www.phatmass.com/phorum/index.php?showtopic=41893"]http://www.phatmass.com/phorum/index.php?showtopic=41893[/url] [url="http://www.phatmass.com/phorum/index.php?showtopic=46982"]http://www.phatmass.com/phorum/index.php?showtopic=46982[/url] [url="http://www.phatmass.com/phorum/index.php?showtopic=22265"]http://www.phatmass.com/phorum/index.php?showtopic=22265[/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesus_lol Posted January 2, 2007 Share Posted January 2, 2007 s far as our legal system goes, im glad its not entirely "an eye for an eye", though i do believe that their are crimes that deserve the death penalty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prose Posted January 3, 2007 Share Posted January 3, 2007 (edited) [quote name='the_rev' post='1154809' date='Jan 2 2007, 04:36 PM'] sorry I don't have enough time as you do. [/quote] You have over TEN THOUSAND posts in only two years (averaging about 10 posts per day), and you are claiming you don't have time to do a simple search on PhatMass for the answer to your question? Edited January 3, 2007 by prose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curtins Posted January 3, 2007 Share Posted January 3, 2007 Its only to be used in very neccessary circumstances, but the church leaves it up to the soverign state to decide that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Socrates Posted January 3, 2007 Share Posted January 3, 2007 [quote name='Lil Red' post='1154855' date='Jan 2 2007, 07:34 PM'] wow, that's kind of a snippy response, isn't it? anyway, here are some of the threads i could find: [url="http://www.phatmass.com/phorum/index.php?showtopic=22124"]Death Penalty[/url] [url="http://www.phatmass.com/phorum/index.php?showtopic=9406"]http://www.phatmass.com/phorum/index.php?showtopic=9406[/url] [url="http://www.phatmass.com/phorum/index.php?showtopic=41893"]http://www.phatmass.com/phorum/index.php?showtopic=41893[/url] [url="http://www.phatmass.com/phorum/index.php?showtopic=46982"]http://www.phatmass.com/phorum/index.php?showtopic=46982[/url] [url="http://www.phatmass.com/phorum/index.php?showtopic=22265"]http://www.phatmass.com/phorum/index.php?showtopic=22265[/url] [/quote] Let's not forget [url="http://www.phatmass.com/phorum/index.php?showtopic=42232"]this 32-page monster![/url] I don't think any topic's been more debated on phatmass. (And from my search, it appears "the_rev" has posted in several, and even started one.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Era Might Posted January 3, 2007 Share Posted January 3, 2007 [quote name='Socrates' post='1154989' date='Jan 2 2007, 09:42 PM']I don't think any topic's been more debated on phatmass.[/quote] I don't know about that. I think that distinction would undoubtedly go to the Liturgy threads. : Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_rev Posted January 3, 2007 Author Share Posted January 3, 2007 (edited) [quote]You have over TEN THOUSAND posts in only two years (averaging about 10 posts per day), and you are claiming you don't have time to do a simple search on PhatMass for the answer to your question?[/quote] Just for clarification I joined Dec. 13th 03 04, 05, 06= 3 years (unless I'm doing [i]my[/i] math wrong, or do I not count one of those years?) Edited January 3, 2007 by the_rev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colleen Posted January 3, 2007 Share Posted January 3, 2007 Just look for any threads with qfnol31 and Cam discussing in them. There are plenty of threads on this. It's not that hard to click and take a look. It would take much longer for us to try to rehash everything that has been thrashed out previously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaime Posted January 3, 2007 Share Posted January 3, 2007 [quote name='Socrates' post='1154989' date='Jan 2 2007, 09:42 PM'] Let's not forget [url="http://www.phatmass.com/phorum/index.php?showtopic=42232"]this 32-page monster![/url] I don't think any topic's been more debated on phatmass. (And from my search, it appears "the_rev" has posted in several, and even started one.) [/quote] That was a good one! that's the one where you accused Camster of appearing "modernist" LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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