aalpha1989 Posted January 8, 2007 Share Posted January 8, 2007 [quote name='ironmonk' post='1158466' date='Jan 7 2007, 08:38 PM'] While the pope is the highest moral authority on earth, he has no direct control over society, therefore he cannot be responsible for what he has no control over. His responsibility is to teach the faith and tend the sheep. To be responsible for something one must have control over it. I know that the tortures continued until our troops freed the prisoners. Something that Saddam did was have his army video almost everything. For example, I have seem some of the video where his son was saying how he wanted to wipe out all the Kurds and some of the tortures he planned on using. The things he order are undeniable because there is so much proof. So much so that I am shocked at how long his trial went on... unless they needed that much time to sift through all the video. How can we go by the pope's judgment in this matter when the Pope did not have all the information to base his judgment on? This is not a matter of faith or morals, it is a matter of discipline. Of course peace is the way we want things to go, but there are those in the world who deem otherwise. There was no reasoning with Saddam... just as there was no reasoning with Hitler. Saddam was a monster... when he came to power he randomly had people removed from their "senate" and shot outside for being "traitors". Saddam was a sadistic evil man... to the point that I wouldn't be surprised if he was possessed. If he had full knowledge of all that was brewing, I do not understand how he would not see that all just war criteria where met. The situation is many times better now than it was before the war. The sanctions where not working and the Iraqi people where the ones who suffered, not Saddam. People where crying for the sanctions to be lifted before the war, if that would have happened then Saddam would have more WMD's than he did and would have taken the opportunity to use them. God Bless, ironmonk [/quote] Ok, so you convinced me about the JPII thing. I guess you pretty much convinced me about everything. Mostly because I know that there's information out there I don't have and the government does. The only thing is that I haven't seen any proof that Saddam supported terrorism....I find it likely that he did, but did he? Bush and his administration would know better than i would, and we are supposed to trust our government...I do trust him too. Okey dokey, that's settled. Thanks! I always learn more here than in religion classes at school. sad, but true... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironmonk Posted January 9, 2007 Share Posted January 9, 2007 [quote name='aalpha1989' post='1158617' date='Jan 8 2007, 12:15 AM'] Ok, so you convinced me about the JPII thing. I guess you pretty much convinced me about everything. Mostly because I know that there's information out there I don't have and the government does. The only thing is that I haven't seen any proof that Saddam supported terrorism....I find it likely that he did, but did he? Bush and his administration would know better than i would, and we are supposed to trust our government...I do trust him too. Okey dokey, that's settled. Thanks! I always learn more here than in religion classes at school. sad, but true... [/quote] I totally understand where you are coming from... this is one of the reasons why I detest the majority of the media because they leave out major facts to the point of deception. Not just with things like this, but things having to do with anything moral such as condoms and how they don't protect you from 60 of the 63 STD's... etc... Saddam openly paid the parents of suicide bombers $10,000 U.S., and then near the last few years of his terror he increased the payments to $25,000 especially if Jews or Americans where killed... he openly made these offers on television and had been making them for years. [url="http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1602317/posts"]http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1602317/posts[/url] [url="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/2846365.stm"]http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/2846365.stm[/url] [url="http://newsbusters.org/node/7335"]http://newsbusters.org/node/7335[/url] Another thing he did routinely was when his prison got full, he would kill everyone except two or three, he then would free the ones that lived and told them to tell others what happens in his prison. The majority of the news agencies only briefly reported what a monster he was... when someone knows what a monster he was, it's easy to understand why he was taunted before he died... it is amazing that they where able to control their anger and not torture him. God Bless, ironmonk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homeschoolmom Posted January 9, 2007 Share Posted January 9, 2007 [quote name='Urib2007' post='1158132' date='Jan 7 2007, 01:36 PM'] Yikes, I guess you didn't take the time to research. I'm sorry to say, but 9/11 was an inside job. [b]Actor James Brolin Latest Celebrity To Publicly Doubt 9/11[/b] Paul Joseph Watson Prison Planet Wednesday, December 6, 2006 [color="#000099"]Actor James Brolin, the husband of Barbara Streisand, has today become the latest celebrity figure to publicly question the official story behind 9/11, after he encouraged viewers of a top rated ABC talk show to check out a 9/11 truth website. Brolin appeared as a guest on The View Wednesday morning and according to e mails we have been receiving in numbers, towards the end of the show the actor questioned 9/11 and urged the audience to check out the website 911weknow.com, which is a website that purports to expose how the twin towers and Building 7, which wasn't hit by a plane, were brought down via controlled demolition.[/color] Continued... [url="http://prisonplanet.com/articles/december2006/061206actorbrolin.htm"]http://prisonplanet.com/articles/december2...actorbrolin.htm[/url] [/quote] Is there a conspiracy theory you don't ascribe to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Socrates Posted January 10, 2007 Share Posted January 10, 2007 [quote name='Urib2007' post='1158132' date='Jan 7 2007, 02:36 PM'] Yikes, I guess you didn't take the time to research. I'm sorry to say, but 9/11 was an inside job. [b]Actor James Brolin Latest Celebrity To Publicly Doubt 9/11[/b] Paul Joseph Watson Prison Planet Wednesday, December 6, 2006 [color="#000099"]Actor James Brolin, the husband of Barbara Streisand, has today become the latest celebrity figure to publicly question the official story behind 9/11, after he encouraged viewers of a top rated ABC talk show to check out a 9/11 truth website. Brolin appeared as a guest on The View Wednesday morning and according to e mails we have been receiving in numbers, towards the end of the show the actor questioned 9/11 and urged the audience to check out the website 911weknow.com, which is a website that purports to expose how the twin towers and Building 7, which wasn't hit by a plane, were brought down via controlled demolition.[/color] Continued... [url="http://prisonplanet.com/articles/december2006/061206actorbrolin.htm"]http://prisonplanet.com/articles/december2...actorbrolin.htm[/url] [/quote] Ooooh, the 9/11 conspiracy theories [i]must[/i] be true, because a [i]celebrity[/i] says so! If an actor (especially one connected to Barbara Streisand) says something, we mustn't doubt it! Where would we ever be without Hollywood actors and pop singers to enlighten us as to the REAL TRUTH?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winchester Posted January 11, 2007 Share Posted January 11, 2007 [quote name='catholicinsd' post='1157964' date='Jan 7 2007, 02:13 AM'] the draft is could become a very real thing, especailly if things don't improve. [/quote] Exactly how low do our casualties need to be to avoid a draft? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aalpha1989 Posted January 11, 2007 Share Posted January 11, 2007 I don't really forsee a draft, at least not for Iraq... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winchester Posted January 13, 2007 Share Posted January 13, 2007 The draft and the talk of benchmarks and all that rot is nothing but rhetoric. It is sound and fury, nothing more. Certainly, we are in a precarious situation, but any government that has dealt with guerilla tactics will tell you this is the nature of that sort of war. The Democrats are playing pure politics, as is the media. It's dishonest garbage every bit as bad as the opposing dishonest garbage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winchester Posted January 13, 2007 Share Posted January 13, 2007 [quote name='catholicinsd' post='1157964' date='Jan 7 2007, 02:13 AM'] I think what this thread has taught us is that some people aren't willing to do what they require of others. They are willing to make elborate excuses, yet they are unwilling to do they require of my generation. [/quote] Bunk. No one has required "your generation" to sign up for the military. Must one join the police to expect police to do their job, which include putting themselves between the criminal and the civilian? I, like any other person, expect people to fulfill the obligations of the professions they choose, just as I fulfill those of my profession. That is not wrong, that is how society functions. I should like you to define the boundaries of your generation, please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akalyte Posted January 13, 2007 Share Posted January 13, 2007 I thought of enlisting many times. But I'd rather start my own Catholic Militia to shutdown liberalism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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