Abortionist The New Age Nazi's

[KnightofChrist]

[quote name='JClives' post='1135306' date='Dec 5 2006, 12:28 AM']

THE COMPARISON IS LUDACRIS!!!![/quote]


Whats the rapper to do with this? Show us how it is ludicrous.

[quote name='JClives' post='1135306' date='Dec 5 2006, 12:28 AM']
Ya know come to think of it... the Nazi's also had peopel that dressed up in uniforms when they talked to mass amounts of people... OMG the Catholic Church has something similar with Nazi's!

See how rediculous this is?!
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If you want to discuss that make your own thread otherwise its off topic

[pcabibi]

will you people please stop trying to take advantage of my bad grammer and stick to the point? I'm not in the market for teacher

[track2004]

Crazy people are part of every issue. Margaret Sanger was crazy and bigoted and we get that. J Edgar Hoover was kinda nuts too but we don't hate the FBI for it.

[KnightofChrist]

[quote name='Aloysius' post='1135309' date='Dec 5 2006, 12:31 AM']
I'll give you that: the governers of the nation are not systematically attacking a specific people. thogh Margaret Sanger, founder of planned parenthood, was very clear in her goal of decreasing the black population through abortion... and there are some folks around pushing the abortion agenda in high powerful places who do so with the express purpose of decreasing the poor population... but yes, there is not a systematic effort.
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That would depend on whether the unborn are a group of specific people. And they are. The government is attacking a specific people, the people not yet born.

[track2004]

Courts don't seem them as people.

[KnightofChrist]

[quote name='track2004' post='1135328' date='Dec 5 2006, 12:45 AM']
Crazy people are part of every issue. Margaret Sanger was crazy and bigoted and we get that. J Edgar Hoover was kinda nuts too but we don't hate the FBI for it.
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Yet Margaret Sanger's dream is being fulfilled...

"We should hire three or four colored ministers, preferably with social-service backgrounds, and with engaging personalities. The most successful educational approach to the Negro is through a religious appeal. We don't want the word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population…"
Margaret Sanger, Founder of Planned Parenthood


[quote]Between 1882 and 1968, 3,446 Blacks were lynched in the U.S. That number is surpassed in less than 3 days by abortion.

1,452 African-American children are killed each day by the heinous act of abortion.

3 out of 5 pregnant African-American women will abort their child.

Since 1973 there has been over 13 million Black children killed and their precious mothers victimized by the U.S. abortion industry.

In his Letter from a Birmingham Jail, Martin Luther King said, "The early church brought an end to such things as INFANTICIDE." What would Martin Luther King say to the church today?
The Rev. Jesse Jackson once said:
"That is why the Constitution called us three-fifths human and then whites further dehumanized us by calling us 'nice black men'. It was part of the dehumanizing process. The first step was to distort the image of us as human beings in order to justify that which they wanted to do and not even feel like they had done anything wrong. Those advocates of taking life prior to birth do not call it killing or murder, they call it abortion. They further never talk about aborting a baby because that would imply something human. Rather they talk about aborting the fetus. Fetus sounds less than human and therefore abortion can be justified".

Jackson's massive flip-flop on the abortion issue is further proof that his political future is far more important to him than are his principles.

With 1/3 of all abortions performed on Black women, the abortion industry has received over 4,000,000,000 (yes, billion) dollars from the Black community.[/quote]


source [url="http://blackgenocide.org/"]http://blackgenocide.org/[/url]

[quote name='track2004' post='1135339' date='Dec 5 2006, 12:52 AM']
Courts don't seem them as people.
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Exactly the point. The Nazi Germany Courts did not see Jews as people either.

[KnightofChrist]

[quote name='JClives' post='1135317' date='Dec 5 2006, 12:39 AM']
ok I'm glad to see we're all not totally illogical here. I do not subscripe to Margaret Sanger's idealogy. Now as far as the person is considered... i believe that definition should be left up to the Woman who is pregnant... not the government. each side has thier own arguement and there is nothing aboslute prooving one side right over the other. Until that happens then that definition should be left to the mother.
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It is a scientific fact that the life of a human being begins a conception, that has been absolutely proven. But yes we all know for a pro-choicer thats not good enough because the statement you made, and other pro-choicers that hold have a mindset like that can still be compared to the Nazi mindset, because both believe in the superiority of one person over a other.

[pcabibi]

[quote name='KnightofChrist' post='1135655' date='Dec 5 2006, 02:47 PM']
It is a scientific fact that the life of a human being begins a conception, that has been absolutely proven. But yes we all know for a pro-choicer thats not good enough because the statement you made, and other pro-choicers that hold have a mindset like that can still be compared to the Nazi mindset, because both believe in the superiority of one person over a other.
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I'm not even getting into this with you. It's not a scientific fact that the soul enters the body during conception. It's speculation. It's not a nazi mindset... you just appear to be so passionate about your beliefs to the point that you are unable to tollerate a different perspective.

you can't proove when a soul enters the body of a person. Don't speculate like it's a scientific fact, becasuse that's just rediculous. Some will argue that the soul doesn't enter until birth. But to be honest... until science can tagibly pinpoint the existance of a soul... then you can't even proove it so this arguement is pointless.... which is exactly the reason why the definition should be left up to the person it effects closest.... the woman... until that proof is given.

[Kosh]

Look, its still a baby and you're still in favor of allowing it to die b/c the mother doesn't want it. Changing the language does not change that.
And he didn't say soul, he said LIFE. Big difference.

Edited December 5, 2006 by Kosh

[pcabibi]

[quote name='Kosh' post='1135744' date='Dec 5 2006, 05:52 PM']
Look, its still a baby and you're still in favor of allowing it to die b/c the mother doesn't want it. Changing the language does not change that.
And he didn't say soul, he said LIFE. Big difference.
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What is life? Life is the existance of a soul on this planet until it is ascended to the next level wherever that is. You're right there is a big difference between life and the soul... but you wouldn't be protecting "life" if it wasn't a HUMAN Life... and the difference between human life and a microbe IS a soul... otherwise you'd also be protesting against antibacterial soap along with abortion.

[Kosh]

Only from a catholic perspective. The same argument can be used from a secular perspective regarding life.

[pcabibi]

[quote name='Kosh' post='1135760' date='Dec 5 2006, 06:01 PM']
Only from a catholic perspective. The same argument can be used from a secular perspective regarding life.
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depends how you define secular. If you mean athiest then they do not make up a majority. Most people that aren't christian are still spiritual.

Edited December 5, 2006 by JClives

[Kosh]

My point is that the existance or non existance of a soul does not change that it is murder.

[pcabibi]

[quote name='Kosh' post='1135770' date='Dec 5 2006, 06:19 PM']
My point is that the existance or non existance of a soul does not change that it is murder.
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Then by your definition using antibacterial soap is on a level of genocide previously unknown to man.

[Kosh]

no...antibacterial soap is not genetically human. Where did THAT come from? 0.o