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[quote name='brendan1104' post='1381441' date='Sep 8 2007, 08:15 PM']The externs in Buffalo get it at first profession, those in the cloister when they make solemn vows and are consecrated.[/quote]
That's how it was at all the Carmels I visited too - the cloistered nuns do not receive the black veil until Solemn Profession, differing from the Poor Clares, or at least the communities I know of like the PCCs in the Federation of Mary Immaculate and the PCPAs.

This is how it is described also in a few old books I've read on Carmel, like the one [i]A Few Lines to Tell You[/i], letters from Carmel.

I remember the thread a few months back about the Solemn Vows of a sister at the Terre Haute Carmel - she had a white veil just before the ceremony in the pictures on their site. Same thing here at Morristown: [url="http://www.patersondiocese.org/page.cfm?Web_ID=1918"]http://www.patersondiocese.org/page.cfm?Web_ID=1918[/url]

I think this is how it is at all OCD Carmels, but I could be wrong - not that big of a deal, but a good thing to know of, that not all OCD nuns in white veils are novices.

An interesting side-topic, though sorry for a bit of a hijack! :j

Edited by Margaret Clare
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