The Authority Of Scripture

[Katholikos]

[quote name='geistesswiesenschaften' post='1154920' date='Jan 2 2007, 08:35 PM']
After reading the New Testament, I have discovered that the writers of the New Testament were not aware that a New Testament Bible was being written, and somehow they managed to maintain authority. Weird, huh!
[/quote]Hi - did you find the info in this thread about Scripture & Tradition helpful? You can start a new thread on this subject or any other you wish to discuss.

The authority was in the Church. No one knew for certain which Christian writings (there were many of them) were "Scripture" and which were not until the Catholic Church settled the canon at the end of the fourth century and beginning of the fifth.

What does your name mean in English? Welcome to phatmass.
Hope you enjoy it.

Jay

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Blessed Father Damien, pray for us!

[mroger]

[quote name='SolaScriptura' post='1129024' date='Nov 27 2006, 03:26 PM']
I think you are missing the point.

You said that the Timothy verses about scriptures he had known since infancy were referring to the OT scriptures. Obviously those must have been gathered in some sort of a collection for Timothy to read and for Jesus to refer and quote from (pre-Catholic Church).

So where was the OT table of contents? How did the Jews and earliest Christians (like Timothy) know what where consider “scripture”?
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Wouldn't you like to know!!!

The fact is that there would BE no Table of Contents, which is a major step backwards for Sola Scriptura Theology, until the year 400 a.d. The fact that Paul addresses Timothy with references to Scripture does not make the claim that some defined "book" of Scripture has existed at that time. Books did not even exist then, and thus no Table of Contents. Books and Bibles did not exist in their present form until the 16th century. It was very convenient for Martin Luther who progulmated the doctrine of what is "Biblical". It is inconvenient for Protestants [including evangelicals] that Bibles did not exist in their present form until the printig press was invented. Theology based on technology isn't a very strong case.

[quote name='SolaScriptura' post='1132158' date='Nov 30 2006, 04:56 PM']
Then how did the 1st Century Jews know what was inspired?
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They trusted Authority, and so should you.

[quote name='Katholikos' post='1154976' date='Jan 2 2007, 09:23 PM']
Hi - did you find the info in this thread about Scripture & Tradition helpful? You can start a new thread on this subject or any other you wish to discuss.

The authority was in the Church. No one knew for certain which Christian writings (there were many of them) were "Scripture" and which were not until the Catholic Church settled the canon at the end of the fourth century and beginning of the fifth.

What does your name mean in English? Welcome to phatmass.
Hope you enjoy it.

Jay

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Blessed Father Damien, pray for us!
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Well, I was really speaking as a matter of fact, in the Socratic sense, of course!

Edited January 3, 2007 by geistesswiesenschaften