MilesChristi Posted November 12, 2006 Share Posted November 12, 2006 [quote name='StThomasMore' post='1118329' date='Nov 12 2006, 04:08 PM'] Russia was never consecrated, and she is still communist... [/quote] Sister Lucia of Fatima said that the consecration took place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seven77 Posted November 12, 2006 Share Posted November 12, 2006 i was at the Shrine after the Mass--at 430! I saw Sisters of Life and a CFR. i was at a celebration in honor of the 500th birth of St. Francis Xavier at CUA. a great day for both! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resurrexi Posted November 12, 2006 Share Posted November 12, 2006 [quote] Sister Lucia of Fatima said that the consecration took place. [/quote] Do you have a quote to back this statement up, because if not, your statement is worthless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Era Might Posted November 12, 2006 Share Posted November 12, 2006 [quote]J.+ M. Pax Christi Dear Sister Mary of Bethlehem: Received your letter and, although I have very little time at my disposal I will answer your question which is: Is the Consecration of the world, according to the request of Our Lady, made? On Oct. 31, 1942, His Holiness Pius XII made the Consecration. I was asked if it was made as Our Lady requested. I answered "NO," because it was not made in union with all the bishops of the world. Later, on May 13, 1967, His Holiness Paul VI made the Consecration. I was asked if it was made as Our Lady requested. I responded "NO," for the same reason, it was not made in union with all the bishops of the world. On May 13, 1982, His Holiness John Paul II made the Consecration. I was asked if it was made. I responded "NO." It was not made in union with all the bishops of the world. Then this same Supreme Pontiff, John Paul II wrote to all the bishops of the world asking them to unite with him. He sent for the statute of Our Lady of Fátima -- the one from the little Chapel to be taken to Rome and on March 25, 1984 - publicly - with the bishops who wanted to unite with His Holiness, made the Consecration as Our Lady requested. They then asked me if it was made as Our Lady requested, and I said, "YES." Now it was made. Why this urgency of God that this Consecration should be made in union with all the bishops of the world? Because this Consecration is a call for unity of all Christians - The Mystical Body of Christ - whose head is the Pope, the one, true representative of Christ on earth to whom the Lord confided the keys of the kingdom of heaven, and on this union depends the faith in the world and the charity which is the bond that must unite all of us in Christ, as that which He wants, and as He asked the Father: "As You, O Father, are in Me, and I in You; that they also may be one in Us, that the world may believe that You have sent Me. . . I in them, and You in Me; that they be made perfect in one, and the world may know that You have sent Me and have loved them as You have loved Me" (John 17:21-23). As we see of the union depends the faith and the charity that must be the bond of our union in Christ, whose true representative on earth is the Pope. A hug to your mother and my greetings to the rest of the family in union with prayers. Coimbra, August 29,1989 Sr. Lucia -[url="http://www.ewtn.com/expert/answers/Fatima1984.htm"][u]SOURCE[/u]-[/url][/quote] [quote]J.+ M. The Peace of Christ Rev. Father Robert J. Fox I come to answer your question, "If the consecration made by Pope John Paul II on March 25, 1984 in union with all the bishops of the world, accomplished the conditions for the consecration of Russia according to the request of Our Lady in Tuy on June 13 of 1929?" Yes, it was accomplished, and since then I have said that it was made. And I say that no other person responds for me, it is I who receive and open all letters and respond to them. Coimbra, 3 July 1990 Sister Lucia -[url="http://www.ewtn.com/expert/answers/Fatima1984.htm"][u]SOURCE[/u]-[/url][/quote] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thy Geekdom Come Posted November 12, 2006 Share Posted November 12, 2006 I couldn't go or watch because I had a mandatory catechetics learning day. However, the deacon who read the Gospel is my Mariology and Angelology professor. : Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resurrexi Posted November 12, 2006 Share Posted November 12, 2006 it was on TV? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brendan1104 Posted November 13, 2006 Share Posted November 13, 2006 (edited) Good intentions- but only one bishop besides +Sambi? [mod]Criticism of the Bishops. --Era Might[/mod] See here: [mod]Don't link there anymore. --Era Might[/mod] We've debated and debated and debated Fr. Gruner and Russia's consecration. Stop debating here and just look the old ones up. Thank you. Edited November 13, 2006 by Era Might Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thy Geekdom Come Posted November 13, 2006 Share Posted November 13, 2006 [quote name='StThomasMore' post='1118421' date='Nov 12 2006, 07:34 PM'] it was on TV? [/quote] Yes, it was televised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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