Era Might Posted November 5, 2006 Share Posted November 5, 2006 Does anyone know if this is true? It's an accusation from another (Protestant) forum, that St. Thomas More had Tyndale killed, and thus deserved to die as he did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thy Geekdom Come Posted November 5, 2006 Share Posted November 5, 2006 Impossible. St. Thomas More wrote against Tyndale and condemned his works, but was martyred a year before Tyndale died (St. Thomas died in 1535, Tyndale in 1536): [url="http://www.williamtyndale.com/0sirthomasmore.htm"]http://www.williamtyndale.com/0sirthomasmore.htm[/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Era Might Posted November 5, 2006 Author Share Posted November 5, 2006 Interesting. I just posted that. We'll see what he has to say. Here was the original accusation: [quote]As for Thomas Moore, he and Henry VIII were the sole perpetrators of the death of William Tyndale, hiring an assassin to find him and bring him to "justice". His crime? Translating the bible into English. For his efforts he was burned at the stake. Thomas Moore deserved whatever he got.[/quote] He may rebut that St. Thomas More hired the assassin before he died. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thy Geekdom Come Posted November 5, 2006 Share Posted November 5, 2006 [quote name='Era Might' post='1112119' date='Nov 5 2006, 07:03 PM'] Interesting. I just posted that. We'll see what he has to say. Here was the original accusation: He may rebut that St. Thomas More hired the assassin before he died. [/quote] Psssh. The link says the Holy Roman Emperor did it. Tyndale lived in Amsterdam. I'm not sure how much control Henry VIII would have over that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Era Might Posted November 5, 2006 Author Share Posted November 5, 2006 Yah, I've also been accused of being part of an "infiltration" of the site with "catholic jesuit stuff". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thy Geekdom Come Posted November 5, 2006 Share Posted November 5, 2006 [quote name='Era Might' post='1112125' date='Nov 5 2006, 07:17 PM'] Yah, I've also been accused of being part of an "infiltration" of the site with "catholic jesuit stuff". [/quote] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mateo el Feo Posted November 7, 2006 Share Posted November 7, 2006 [quote name='Raphael' post='1112084' date='Nov 5 2006, 06:17 PM'] Impossible. St. Thomas More wrote against Tyndale and condemned his works, but was martyred a year before Tyndale died (St. Thomas died in 1535, Tyndale in 1536): [url="http://www.williamtyndale.com/0sirthomasmore.htm"]http://www.williamtyndale.com/0sirthomasmore.htm[/url] [/quote]So according to the link, it looks like they were both arrested at around the same time. St. Thomas More was indicted on 1 July 1535 ([url="http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/14689c.htm"]link[/url]). According to the Tyndale website (I assume non-Catholic), Tyndale was arrested in the same month (after 15 months in prison, he was executed on 6 Oct 1536. [url="http://www.williamtyndale.com/0reformationtimeline.htm"]link[/url]). Henry VIII founded the Church of England (independent from Rome) in the period from 1531 to 1534 ([url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Church_of_England#Separation_from_Papal_Authority"]link[/url]), and it seems that he should get the credit/blame for executing both of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cathoholic_anonymous Posted November 7, 2006 Share Posted November 7, 2006 [quote]Yah, I've also been accused of being part of an "infiltration" of the site with "catholic jesuit stuff".[/quote] Oh, those Jesuits. It's [i]always[/i] the Jesuits... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phatcatholic Posted November 7, 2006 Share Posted November 7, 2006 check out this article: [url="http://www.catholic.com/thisrock/2002/0212fea3.asp"]http://www.catholic.com/thisrock/2002/0212fea3.asp[/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mateo el Feo Posted November 8, 2006 Share Posted November 8, 2006 [quote name='Mateo el Feo' post='1113873' date='Nov 7 2006, 01:41 PM']Henry VIII founded the Church of England (independent from Rome) in the period from 1531 to 1534 ([url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Church_of_England#Separation_from_Papal_Authority"]link[/url]), and it seems that he should get the credit/blame for executing both of them. [/quote]Oops...I'm not reading the links close enough. Didn't realize that Wycliff was in Antwerp at the time of his arrest. I guess, the worst we could say is that Henry VIII wasn't a friend of Wycliff (according to the Wikipedia, he wanted Charles V to extradict Wycliff because of Wycliff's opposition to his divorce). In any event, I still think the accusation against St. Thomas More is pretty absurd, given the timelines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toledo_jesus Posted November 9, 2006 Share Posted November 9, 2006 [quote name='Mateo el Feo' post='1114872' date='Nov 8 2006, 04:19 AM'] In any event, I still think the accusation against St. Thomas More is pretty absurd, given the timelines. [/quote] Any accusation against More was absurd. The man was a genius and did his best to avoid incriminating himself even in light of Henry's new rules. Spurious reason was used to find a 'legal' reason to execute the man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aloysius Posted November 10, 2006 Share Posted November 10, 2006 StThomasMore is only 13 and didn't even live back then. Though, he might have burned Mr. Tyndale's bible if it was given to him as a Christmas present, I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
123 Posted November 10, 2006 Share Posted November 10, 2006 (edited) [quote]Does anyone know if this is true? It's an accusation from another (Protestant) forum, that St. Thomas More had Tyndale killed, and thus deserved to die as he did. [/quote] Sadly, Era Might, I actually watched a old motion picture that told that exact accusation. This of course was when I was protestant. The bad part was, I watched this in my teenage sunday school class that my dads best friend taught it. Edited November 10, 2006 by GloriaIesusChristi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JeffCR07 Posted November 10, 2006 Share Posted November 10, 2006 [quote name='Aloysius' post='1116385' date='Nov 9 2006, 09:13 PM'] StThomasMore is only 13 and didn't even live back then. Though, he might have burned Mr. Tyndale's bible if it was given to him as a Christmas present, I suppose. [/quote] hahaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resurrexi Posted November 10, 2006 Share Posted November 10, 2006 [quote]StThomasMore is only 13 and didn't even live back then. Though, he might have burned Mr. Tyndale's bible if it was given to him as a Christmas present, I suppose.[/quote] lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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