ironmonk Posted January 13, 2004 Share Posted January 13, 2004 Dear Truth, Before we go any further into what "this" or "that" means, can we please discuss a few things. Please let us know what it is that you think the Catholic Church teaches on a point by point basis (one thing at a time). Something that you think just doesn't sound right or in line with what Scripture teaches, please bring it up here. Then, we Catholics can tell you if you or correct on what you think the Church teaches, or if you have been misinformed on what the Church teaches. There are many misunderstandings being spread about our Church which are simply wrong. You will find that many of the people on this board are far more knowledgable about the Catholic Faith than any non-Catholic... Many of us have been Catholic all our lives, and we know our faith better than the back of our hand. I believe after an in depth study of Catholic Church teachings that you will find that the most anyone can really say about the Catholic Church is that we have a different interpretation of Scripture than non-Catholics. Everything the Catholic Church teaches is biblical. Please choose one topic... i.e. Purgatory, Confession, Real Pressence, Mary, etc.... Thank You. God Bless, Your Servant in Christ, ironmonk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TABBY Posted January 14, 2004 Share Posted January 14, 2004 I wonder why Truth hasnt come here yet? He has been at the other threads...why is he avoiding this one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truth Posted January 14, 2004 Share Posted January 14, 2004 Dear Truth, Before we go any further into what "this" or "that" means, can we please discuss a few things. Please let us know what it is that you think the Catholic Church teaches on a point by point basis (one thing at a time). Something that you think just doesn't sound right or in line with what Scripture teaches, please bring it up here. Then, we Catholics can tell you if you or correct on what you think the Church teaches, or if you have been misinformed on what the Church teaches. There are many misunderstandings being spread about our Church which are simply wrong. You will find that many of the people on this board are far more knowledgable about the Catholic Faith than any non-Catholic... Many of us have been Catholic all our lives, and we know our faith better than the back of our hand. I believe after an in depth study of Catholic Church teachings that you will find that the most anyone can really say about the Catholic Church is that we have a different interpretation of Scripture than non-Catholics. Everything the Catholic Church teaches is biblical. Please choose one topic... i.e. Purgatory, Confession, Real Pressence, Mary, etc.... Thank You. God Bless, Your Servant in Christ, ironmonk Please choose one topic... i.e. Purgatory, Confession, Real Pressence, Mary, etc.... I choose not to debate about what The Catholic Church teach Catholics. I Choose to debate what the Bible teach, go there and choose one topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmotherofpirl Posted January 14, 2004 Share Posted January 14, 2004 (edited) THen please do not try to tell us what we believe, because from what you have previously posted, you greatly misunderstand the teachings of the Church. The Bible came from the CAtholic Church and is a Catholic book. What would you like to discuss? Edited January 14, 2004 by cmotherofpirl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.SIGGA Posted January 14, 2004 Share Posted January 14, 2004 Is the 'truth' in your responses from an outside source (a book, a tape, a pastor, etc.) or is it from your own personal biblical research? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironmonk Posted January 14, 2004 Author Share Posted January 14, 2004 Please choose one topic... i.e. Purgatory, Confession, Real Pressence, Mary, etc.... I choose not to debate about what The Catholic Church teach Catholics. I Choose to debate what the Bible teach, go there and choose one topic. I wasn't meaning for you to debate, I want to clarify what the Church teaches, because the Catholic Church is biblical.... a proper way to say it would be that the bible is Catholic. How do you know that your interpretation of Scripture is right and that the Catholic interpretation is wrong? God Bless, ironmonk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Adam Posted January 14, 2004 Share Posted January 14, 2004 Hey guys, how's it going? Hrm...I see you're bustin' folks chops for trying to rip on the Catholic faith. Good job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TABBY Posted January 14, 2004 Share Posted January 14, 2004 (edited) Please choose one topic... i.e. Purgatory, Confession, Real Pressence, Mary, etc.... I choose not to debate about what The Catholic Church teach Catholics. I Choose to debate what the Bible teach, go there and choose one topic. So you are just all talk? On the other threads you give out misconceptions of the Catholic Church and you give out YOUR opionion and state them as fact, however when others and myself have asked you to provide proof you fail to do so. Maybe it is you who does not know enough to debate? Here was your chance, but you declined....why? Edited January 14, 2004 by TABBY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasJis Posted January 14, 2004 Share Posted January 14, 2004 Bro! Where were you when we needed you? We weren't really bustin' chops, we were defending the Faith, but it got a little ugly. Too soon it was a prot vs cath thing, as if we've never been able to talk to other Christian denoms as Brothers in Christ. If you told us we were getting too harsh, we would of listened. (well, maybe we would of) :huh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DojoGrant Posted January 14, 2004 Share Posted January 14, 2004 Truth, This is really simple. Pick any Catholic belief you want. Then, in a few sentences (more if needed), explain that belief to us as you understand it. If it is what is taught, truely, in the Catholic faith, we will say so. If it is not, we will say so, and will provide Catechism and Scripture support to show you why this is not what the Church teaches. THIS IS NOT A WHO IS RIGHT AND WHO IS WRONG THREAD. "Truth of doctrine" is not the issue, but "truth of what we believe as Catholics" IS. So, pick a topic, and tell us what you understand we believe about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norseman82 Posted January 15, 2004 Share Posted January 15, 2004 I Choose to debate what the Bible teach, go there and choose one topic. Maybe a better way of putting it is this: pick a topic and ask why Catholics seem to not be following scripture, and we'll go from there. Preferably not a topic that is being discussed elsewhere currently, just to avoid repetition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phatcatholic Posted January 15, 2004 Share Posted January 15, 2004 Maybe a better way of putting it is this: pick a topic and ask why Catholics seem to not be following scripture, and we'll go from there. Preferably not a topic that is being discussed elsewhere currently, just to avoid repetition. no norse, i don't think that's the point of this thread. the point is not to debate over who has the right interpretation, but to find out what Truth thinks we believe about certain things. iron is trying to find out if he has the wrong idea about what Catholics believe or not. for instance, if truth thought that Catholics believed in salvation by works, then we would be able to tell him that we do not. if truth thought that we believe in worshipping Mary, then we would tell him that we do not. however, we cannot correct him until we find out what he thinks catholics believe. truth, i'll make it easy for ya. just fill in the blanks below: 1. Catholics believe in salvation by ________ 2. Catholics believe the pope is infallible when _______ 3. Catholics believe that sacred tradition is ______ sacred scripture. (ur choices are:) A. equal to B. superior to C. inferior to 4. Catholics believe that _____ is the first pope. 5. True or False? Catholics believe that Purgatory is there to make up for what Christ was not able to achieve on the cross. 6. Catholics believe that sacraments are _____ (ur choices are:) A. works B. gifts of grace C. only symbolic 7. True or False: Catholics believe that immersion in water baptism is wrong and never do it. get the idea? we want to know what u believe about the Church so that we can correct you, and so that you will stop saying that we believe things that we do not believe. pax christi, phatcatholic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna Posted January 16, 2004 Share Posted January 16, 2004 Hey guys, how's it going? Hrm...I see you're bustin' folks chops for trying to rip on the Catholic faith. Good job. Dude! What's new? I visited Fly Free Ministries lately, and there's no Catholic stuff any more! What happened? (((hugs to you and the Mrs.!)))) Pax Christi. <>< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truth Posted January 19, 2004 Share Posted January 19, 2004 I guess my Topic was taken off because of my point of view. But it caused you all to think and reseach for truth. my sources are Bible concordane history map and Bible events Bible Expert Text Topical Bible Bible Dictionary Essentials of world history Four thousand Question & Answers on the Bible American Heritage Dictionary Book of Enoch Book of Adam & Eve The Bible Almanac The Layman's Bible Encyclopedia Every Day Bible Time The Great Religions Book of Passion Narrative Book of Lost Saying Gospel Q Book of Signs Gospel Book of Hebrews Book Didache Gospel of Thomas Oxyrhynchus 1224 Gospel Sophia of Jesus Christ Episte of James Egerton Gospel Secret Mark Fayyum Fragments and it go on and on..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyperdulia again Posted January 19, 2004 Share Posted January 19, 2004 No Tuth, I moved your topic and not because of your pov. I moved it because the thread was becoming a series of personal attacks rather than aa debate. God Bless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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