Cam42 Posted October 15, 2006 Share Posted October 15, 2006 [quote name='Budge' post='1092148' date='Oct 15 2006, 02:40 PM'] What about the Incarnation? Dwelled in Mary? 9 months compared to 33 years? [/quote] How long were the contents in the Ark? Much longer than 33 years, methinks.....what's your point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Budge Posted October 15, 2006 Share Posted October 15, 2006 well if we are discussing where Jesus dwelled... I think the time on earth in the Incarnation as fully God and man...definitely was more important then the time he was in Mary's womb. What do we know of the time in Mary's womb? I dont remember my time in my mothers womb. All of us just kind of sit there and grow in the embyonic fluid..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cam42 Posted October 15, 2006 Share Posted October 15, 2006 [quote name='Budge' post='1092162' date='Oct 15 2006, 02:51 PM'] well if we are discussing where Jesus dwelled... I think the time on earth in the Incarnation as fully God and man...definitely was more important then the time he was in Mary's womb. What do we know of the time in Mary's womb? I dont remember my time in my mothers womb. All of us just kind of sit there and grow in the embyonic fluid..... [/quote] And we don't have a Divine Nature. Christ did and his human nature, at all times, was illumined by his Divine Nature. So, the time He spent was very important. Let's not be Arian.....unless you like ascribing to that heresy, then by all means..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thy Geekdom Come Posted October 15, 2006 Share Posted October 15, 2006 [quote name='Budge' post='1092162' date='Oct 15 2006, 04:51 PM'] well if we are discussing where Jesus dwelled... I think the time on earth in the Incarnation as fully God and man...definitely was more important then the time he was in Mary's womb. [/quote] Well, the time He was in Mary's womb was a part of the time He was fully God and fully man. Therefore, it is of the highest importance. It means that God not only became man, but became a zygote, an embryo, a fetus, a baby, an infant, a toddler, a child, a pre-teen, a teen, a 20-something, etc. It means that all these are important. I would say it's important...but more important? No...it's all one thing: the Incarnation. [quote]What do we know of the time in Mary's womb? I dont remember my time in my mothers womb. All of us just kind of sit there and grow in the embyonic fluid.....[/quote] No, we all developed. We grew and learned. The Bible seems to make a big deal out of Jesus development. It doesn't just talk about Him as an adult, but as an infant and as a young man in the Temple, who grew in wisdom and fear of the Lord. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cam42 Posted October 15, 2006 Share Posted October 15, 2006 Raphael is right....nice post....you support me and I'll support you. When are you coming through Des Moines? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thy Geekdom Come Posted October 15, 2006 Share Posted October 15, 2006 [quote name='Cam42' post='1092172' date='Oct 15 2006, 04:57 PM'] Raphael is right....nice post....you support me and I'll support you. When are you coming through Des Moines? [/quote] Maybe on my way to Omaha for Christmas break. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cam42 Posted October 15, 2006 Share Posted October 15, 2006 [quote name='Raphael' post='1092175' date='Oct 15 2006, 02:59 PM'] Maybe on my way to Omaha for Christmas break. [/quote] Right on....let me know and I will try to get hot stuff to be in Des Moines at the same time and we'll go to Hooters together......Jennie too.... It will be fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thy Geekdom Come Posted October 15, 2006 Share Posted October 15, 2006 [quote name='Cam42' post='1092189' date='Oct 15 2006, 05:14 PM'] Right on....let me know and I will try to get hot stuff to be in Des Moines at the same time and we'll go to Hooters together......Jennie too.... It will be fun. [/quote] Jen will only be with me when I come for Spring break. ...and I won't set foot in a Hooters... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MilesChristi Posted October 15, 2006 Share Posted October 15, 2006 "Though bodies develop and unfold their component parts with the passing of the years, they always remain what they were. There is a great difference between the flower of childhood and the maturity of age, but those who become old are the very same people who were once young. Though the condition and appearance of one and the same individual may change, it is one and the same nature, one and the same person. The tiny members of unweaned children and the grown members of young men are still the same members. Men have the same number of limbs as children. Whatever develops at a later age was already present in seminal form; there is nothing new in old age that was not already latent in childhood." ---St. Vincent of Lerins (c.450AD) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thy Geekdom Come Posted October 15, 2006 Share Posted October 15, 2006 [quote name='MilesChristi' post='1092218' date='Oct 15 2006, 06:01 PM'] "Though bodies develop and unfold their component parts with the passing of the years, they always remain what they were. There is a great difference between the flower of childhood and the maturity of age, but those who become old are the very same people who were once young. Though the condition and appearance of one and the same individual may change, it is one and the same nature, one and the same person. The tiny members of unweaned children and the grown members of young men are still the same members. Men have the same number of limbs as children. Whatever develops at a later age was already present in seminal form; there is nothing new in old age that was not already latent in childhood." ---St. Vincent of Lerins (c.450AD) [/quote] A very good and often unnoticed saint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest T-Bone Posted October 15, 2006 Share Posted October 15, 2006 [quote name='Budge' post='1092162' date='Oct 15 2006, 01:51 PM'] well if we are discussing where Jesus dwelled... I think the time on earth in the Incarnation as fully God and man...definitely was more important then the time he was in Mary's womb. [b]What do we know of the time in Mary's womb?[/b] I dont remember my time in my mothers womb. All of us just kind of sit there and grow in the embyonic fluid..... [/quote] What do we know of His childhood. Aside from one solitary passage in the Bible that was more about his young-adult hood, than his childhood, absolutly nothing, nada, nil, zilch. What's your point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cam42 Posted October 15, 2006 Share Posted October 15, 2006 [quote name='Raphael' post='1092204' date='Oct 15 2006, 03:44 PM'] Jen will only be with me when I come for Spring break. ...and I won't set foot in a Hooters... [/quote] Oh, sorry to hear that.... Why won't you go to Hooters? We go for the wings..... I suppose we can go to BW3s, but the wings are not nearly as fun or good... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homeschoolmom Posted October 16, 2006 Share Posted October 16, 2006 [quote name='jswranch' post='1092015' date='Oct 15 2006, 06:19 AM'] : Ohh! So then veneration of Mary is just like worshiping God before Ark of the New Covenant??? (atleast someone would have patted me on the back for finding pics that match each other) [/quote] Where's the pat on the back smiley? Nice job. [quote name='Akalyte' post='1092019' date='Oct 15 2006, 08:12 AM'] Also, how hard is it to see that Mary is the Ark of the new covenant? The Ark of the old covenant held the word. The What exactly held the word in the new covenant? Its obvious. Mary is the Ark of the New Covenant. Nice pic comparison.. [/quote] And... it contained the Manna-- the Bread of Life... And Aaron's staff. [quote name='Cam42' post='1092189' date='Oct 15 2006, 04:14 PM'] Right on....let me know and I will try to get hot stuff to be in Des Moines at the same time and we'll go to Hooters together......Jennie too.... It will be fun. [/quote] Oh, yeah... loads of fun. Jennie would love it. [quote name='Cam42' post='1092386' date='Oct 15 2006, 07:10 PM'] Oh, sorry to hear that.... Why won't you go to Hooters? We go for the wings..... I suppose we can go to BW3s, but the wings are not nearly as fun or good... [/quote] Oh, they're way better than Hooters'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cam42 Posted October 16, 2006 Share Posted October 16, 2006 [quote name='homeschoolmom' post='1092435' date='Oct 15 2006, 07:20 PM'] Oh, they're way better than Hooters'. [/quote] Anathema sit!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homeschoolmom Posted October 16, 2006 Share Posted October 16, 2006 I think you overestimate your power. : Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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