PadrePioOfPietrelcino Posted October 16, 2006 Share Posted October 16, 2006 [quote name='Budge' post='1092166' date='Oct 15 2006, 03:54 PM'] Graven images concerns images used for worship. Im not bowing down to that image of Moses am I? [/quote] I don't see that disclaimer in the first commandment (known to you by the protestant inventions as the second commandment), One way or another budge either you can make them or not. Catholic do not worship statues, so it falls into the same category as your avatar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jswranch Posted October 16, 2006 Author Share Posted October 16, 2006 Budge, Can you explain why your list of commandments does not match that of the Jews, either before or after Christ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kateri05 Posted October 16, 2006 Share Posted October 16, 2006 i still would like the accusation explained that we "worship" graven images. cuz we don't . 'nuff said Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Budge Posted October 16, 2006 Share Posted October 16, 2006 Give me the Jewish list... I havent seen it yet. Actually would Talmudic Judisam have the same list as Judaism before the days of Christ? [quote] Yep, protestants think that a man owns his wife.[/quote] Where do you get that? Just because the Bible teaches that a wife is to submit to husband doesnt mean he owns her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thessalonian Posted October 16, 2006 Share Posted October 16, 2006 Budge, Is bowing down always worship? A yes or no will be quite sufficient. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Budge Posted October 16, 2006 Share Posted October 16, 2006 (edited) bowing like Japanese...not always... getting on your knees and praying...[to the statue or whoever it represents] YES... "Hail Holy Queen" is worship.... Edited October 16, 2006 by Budge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightofChrist Posted October 16, 2006 Share Posted October 16, 2006 (edited) And having a avatar that promotes gutting the 10 commandments of God the Father is blasphemy. Catholics are not gutting the 10 commandments Mother Church has always taught them all, every 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10 of them. The only one here promoting gutting the 10 commandments is yourself with your avatar of blasphemy. Edited October 16, 2006 by KnightofChrist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thy Geekdom Come Posted October 16, 2006 Share Posted October 16, 2006 [quote name='Budge' post='1093086' date='Oct 16 2006, 03:24 PM'] bowing like Japanese...not always... getting on your knees and praying...[to the statue or whoever it represents] YES... "Hail Holy Queen" is worship.... [/quote] If an angel, who is by nature higher than a human, can salute her, why shouldn't we? I fail to see how that's adoration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thessalonian Posted October 16, 2006 Share Posted October 16, 2006 (edited) [quote name='Budge' post='1093086' date='Oct 16 2006, 02:24 PM'] bowing like Japanese...not always... getting on your knees and praying...[to the statue or whoever it represents] YES... "Hail Holy Queen" is worship.... [/quote] Well first of all we don't pray TO statues. They are only reminders. So worship is an equation rather than a state of the heart and mind? Bow before Japenese = not worship Bow before statue = worship as in it's imposible to have the same state of heart and mind before a statue vs. before a man? Budge your just dead wrong on this. As long as that statue is not considered a god and the person that it represents is not considered a god it cannot be worship. Even with the words hail holy queen. Budge I am quite certain you would have damned to hell the Jewish elders and Joshua in Josh 7 for prostrating themselves before the ark of the covenant. That simply shows how poor you are at judging hearts. God granted them victory the following day. Edited October 16, 2006 by thessalonian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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