The Discalced Carmelite Nuns - 1990 & 1991 Constitutions

[ruso]

[quote name='TotusTuusMaria' post='1635114' date='Aug 23 2008, 03:18 AM']I was going to ask if that was Sr. Lucia, but I figured the community you probably posted of was in Spain and she was in Portugal

That is interesting that Sr. Lucia was in a traditional 1991 Carmel. Thanks for posting the pictures. They are lovely. Where did you find the picture of the Carmel of Sr. Lucia?[/quote]
Never said that the nuns were Spanish , although I could not find any photo you know they are safe nuns "Maravillosas".
I found the photo in the international site of the Discalceds Carmelites Order. A visit of a nuns of my province to Sor Lucia in the video.

[url="http://www.ocd.pcn.net/Lucia_Ave.htm"]http://www.ocd.pcn.net/Lucia_Ave.htm[/url]

[TotusTuusMaria]

[quote name='ruso' post='1635177' date='Aug 22 2008, 09:46 PM']Never said that the nuns were Spanish , although I could not find any photo you know they are safe nuns "Maravillosas".
I found the photo in the international site of the Discalceds Carmelites Order. A visit of a nuns of my province to Sor Lucia in the video.

[url="http://www.ocd.pcn.net/Lucia_Ave.htm"]http://www.ocd.pcn.net/Lucia_Ave.htm[/url][/quote]

I assume things for I don't know what reasons oh so often, so that is probably what happen with me thinking they were spanish carmelites. Just ignore my silliness.

Are there photos of any of the "Maravaillosas" ? It seems like I don't see photos often of them... they seem much more hidden and when there are photos you don't see the sisters' faces. I understand why this is, but I am still wondering if perhaps there are any out there.

Thanks for the link.

[truthfinder]

Just wanted to say something about Carmelite monasteries in Canada. There are of at least three that I know of. Two are of the 1991 constitutions. One of which wears a modified habit. The other is a 1990 constitution monastery. They wear full habits and got too full and they founded a monastery at the other end of the country. I have met them. This new foundation still wears the traditional habit, has a wooden grille, has a cover for their grille in the chapel. But, they are 1991 constitutions. As far as I can tell, they are probably just as strict as their founding monastery. Please pray for them, as there is eight nuns, one just died, who are in this little house they call a monastery. Two are junior professed, one of which is going to profess her solemn vows in a couple months. Please pray for their building of a new monastery, they REALLY need it.
God Bless

[RosaMystica]

[quote name='truthfinder' post='1635298' date='Aug 23 2008, 12:53 AM']Just wanted to say something about Carmelite monasteries in Canada. There are of at least three that I know of. Two are of the 1991 constitutions. One of which wears a modified habit. The other is a 1990 constitution monastery. They wear full habits and got too full and they founded a monastery at the other end of the country. I have met them. This new foundation still wears the traditional habit, has a wooden grille, has a cover for their grille in the chapel. But, they are 1991 constitutions. As far as I can tell, they are probably just as strict as their founding monastery. Please pray for them, as there is eight nuns, one just died, who are in this little house they call a monastery. Two are junior professed, one of which is going to profess her solemn vows in a couple months. Please pray for their building of a new monastery, they REALLY need it.
God Bless[/quote]

I will pray for them!!

[TotusTuusMaria]

[quote name='truthfinder' post='1635298' date='Aug 22 2008, 11:53 PM']Just wanted to say something about Carmelite monasteries in Canada. There are of at least three that I know of. Two are of the 1991 constitutions. One of which wears a modified habit. The other is a 1990 constitution monastery. They wear full habits and got too full and they founded a monastery at the other end of the country. I have met them. This new foundation still wears the traditional habit, has a wooden grille, has a cover for their grille in the chapel. But, they are 1991 constitutions. As far as I can tell, they are probably just as strict as their founding monastery. Please pray for them, as there is eight nuns, one just died, who are in this little house they call a monastery. Two are junior professed, one of which is going to profess her solemn vows in a couple months. Please pray for their building of a new monastery, they REALLY need it.
God Bless[/quote]

[truthfinder]

Thank you very much, both MandyKhatoon and TotusTuus Maria. They've been trying to get a monastery built for the last fifteen years and still nothing. Hopefully the work will start and the necessary money will come. I will pray for both of you in thanksgiving for your prayers.
God Bless

[Laudem Gloriae]

I recently bought - a few months ago - from Amazon.com the book "Let Him Do It: Life of Maravillas of Jesus" by Jose Morales. It is EXCELLENT for anyone wanting to know more about this wonderful Carmelite saint! I got it for $12.00 or so.

This is the book listed on Amazon - [url="http://www.amazon.com/Let-Him-Do-Maravillas-O-C-D/dp/B00194GAXW/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1219617475&sr=1-9"]http://www.amazon.com/Let-Him-Do-Maravilla...7475&sr=1-9[/url]

But it is "Currently Unavailable" now. But keep checking back as I've seen it on and off. This link gives more information on the book.

[praxedes]

Sister Lynne, the Prioress of the Carmel of Eldridge in Iowa, is one of the holiest and most beautiful nuns I have ever met. I doubt a habit could make her holier. It was nice to see her picture.

[tinytherese]

[quote name='MandyKhatoon' post='1634960' date='Aug 22 2008, 05:25 PM']I agree, the 1991's style is very sleek and simple, but at the same time I'm awed by the beauty of the traditional style habit. Think about the great carmelite saints: St. Teresa of Avila, St. Therese of Lisieux, St. Edith Stein, St. Teresa Margaret, Blessed Elizabeth of the Trinity, and all the others. I mean, that's the same type of habit they wore! If it was my vocation to be a carmelite nun, I would choose a convent that still has the traditional carmelite habit so to wear the same habit as the great carmelite saints. Of course I wouldn't choose a convent solely on the habit but it would be a big plus! [/quote]

I completely agree with wanting the traditonal habit. Which communities still do that?

Edited September 17, 2008 by tinytherese

[Laudem Gloriae]

There's many in the US with the full traditional habit - which is the only one I want! Why anyone would want to butcher the most beautiful habit of Our Lady is beyond me! I personally think the modifed Carmelite habit is ugly.

Go to the St. Joseph's Association of 1990 Carmels at http://carmelitenunsstjoseph.org/monastery.htm . These are the best ones.

Also, see this 1990s Carmel Photo album of monasteries at http://picasaweb.google.com/ocdnuns.

Carmel of Brooklyn, NY: no website, founded from the Buffalo, NY Carmel.

Carmel of Kensington, CA: http://www.gilmoretechservices.com/Archive...05.html#Inside1

Carmel of Santa Fe, NM: http://db.religiouslife.com/reg_life/irl.nsf/org/67 and http://www.straphaelcrystal.org/ministry/m...y_vocation.html - scroll down on right for picture of a novice.

Then there are excellent ones with no association affiliation but 90s like the Carmel of Cristo Rey (bilingual) in San Franciso (no website but this: http://db.religiouslife.com/reg_life/irl.nsf/org/99). And a foundation from them is the Carmel at Valparaiso, NE.

And another autonomous Carmel is at Clearwater, KS (http://db.religiouslife.com/reg_life/irl.nsf/org/115 and http://www.projo.com/sharedcontent/dws/dn/...s.1ee9293c.html

Carmel of Iron Mt, MI: http://cloisteredlife.com/carmelites.htm




There are some 91's in full habit like and may be autonomous or in other associations:

Carmel by the Sea: http://www.carmelitesistersbythesea.net/homepage.htm

Port Tobacco Carmel: http://carmelitenunsstjoseph.org/monastery.htm

Terre Haute Carmel: http://www.heartsawake.com/

Carmel of Alhambra, CA: http://members.aol.com/teresacarm/index.htm

Carmel of St. Louis, MO: http://www.stormpages.com/mtcarmel/

Carmel of San Antonio, TX: http://www.carmelsanantonio.org/ (bilingual)

Carmel of New Caney, TX: http://www.icansurf.com/ocdnewcaney/

Carmel of San Rafael, CA: http://motherofgodcarmel.org/index.php

Carmel Alexandria, SD: go to page 7, small article on a nun on right side -
http://www.diocese-of-sioux-falls.org/comm...unebulletin.pdf

Carmel of Georgetown, CA: http://www.carmelitemonastery.com/

Carmel of Ada/Parnell, MI: http://carmelitenuns.org/

Carmel of Salt Lake City, UT: http://www.carmelslc.org/

Carmel of Hialeah, FL: http://www.miamiarch.org/ip.asp?op=H1000071221a

Carmel of Arlington, TX: http://www.carmelnuns.com/index.html - I THINK they wear the full habit, never saw pictures of them, so I'm not sure.

Carmel of Clinton Township, MI: http://www.rc.net/detroit/carmelite/



Then there are the English Carmels I am looking at:

First choice is Sheffield Carmel: http://www.kirkedge.org.uk/index.html -1990 Carmel

Other English Carmels are:

St. Helen's - 1990 but no website other than - http://www.carmelite.org.uk/StHelens.html

Two good Enghlish 1991 Carmels in full habit are:

Carmel of Wolverhampton, UK: http://www.wolvercarmvocations.org.uk/

Carmel of Upholland, UK: http://www.carmelite.org.uk/Upholland.html



Ok, I think that's a lot! The 1990s are much better and more in following St. Teresa of Avila's reformed Carmel more so than the 91s. Some O.Carms wear the full habit also.

[tinytherese]

Rock on! I was concerned that only few we're doing it anymore.