Guest lundercovera Posted January 11, 2004 Share Posted January 11, 2004 this is what i'm undercover to say. i have a dominate attraction to males. it isn't good. i've never acted on it except through pornography, but that's still kinda not good at all. i've kinda recently admitted to myself that it was true, whereas before i would just kinda lie to myself. anyway, i love PhatMass and decided to share with you this tidbit about me, but i couldn't deal with everyone knowing me like that, even though i myself respect ppl like HyperDulia Again more than alot of other ppl because of his struggles. well, what can i say, i'm in high school :ph34r:. well, anyway, prayers and advice VERY welcome. thanx! :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLAZEr Posted January 11, 2004 Share Posted January 11, 2004 Dude, I love you. I think you're amesome. I'm pretty sure I know who you are. Just know that my prayers are being stepped up double time. Love is truly the heart of the Church. If people can't love you, they're the ones with a problem. Struggling with temptation, with our very selves, that's the Christian life. If people don't know that, then they're not very good Catholics. If you want to talk more, then PM me or send me an instant message. I'm here for ya. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyperdulia again Posted January 11, 2004 Share Posted January 11, 2004 Well howdy Undercover. I'm a Catholic homosexual, so I guess that makes you family twice over. Velcuhm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest lundercovera Posted January 11, 2004 Share Posted January 11, 2004 If people can't love you, they're the ones with a problem. Struggling with temptation, with our very selves, that's the Christian life. If people don't know that, then they're not very good Catholics. yeah, but highschoolers are brutal :ph34r: anyway, thanx for the support! PM me and tell me who you think i am though, i don't mind. i'm expecially concerned that you might think it's someone else. anyway, i was wondring one thing since i'm at the point in my life of discerning vocations, it's a definite discipline that i can't be a priest or religious, right? i kinda agree with that too, just not completely sure. thanx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLAZEr Posted January 11, 2004 Share Posted January 11, 2004 look, I would talk to Fr. Groeschel about that one. He's the expert on this stuff. He generally argues that there are different degrees of same sex attraction and that the more one identifies themselves with ssa the less happy or healthy that person will be in a religious vocation. PM me if you want more advice. Also, I high recommend the book "The Courage to be Chaste" by Fr. Benedict Groeschel. Its a good general book on chastity It helped me tremendously, and I'm sure it will help you. Although it's not specifically for people struggling with SSA, originally that was his intent and there is a lot in there with that in mind. Peace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLAZEr Posted January 11, 2004 Share Posted January 11, 2004 Well howdy Undercover. I'm a Catholic homosexual, so I guess that makes you family twice over. Velcuhm. You really are a big dork, you know that? lol . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmjtina Posted January 11, 2004 Share Posted January 11, 2004 Welcome!!!! dUSt has posted this amesome quote and it's very true. Stay away from the porn, whether your hetro or homosexual. It destroys the human body to a mere object. Have you heard of Courage? Courage, an apostolate of the Roman Catholic Church, ministers to those with same-sex attractions and their loved ones. I hope that helps. I will keep you in my prayers. "You tell me in your heart you have fire and water, cold and heat, empty passions and God: one candle lit to St Michael and another to the devil. Calm yourself. As long as you are willing to fight there are not two candles burning in your heart. There is only one: the archangel's." - St. Josemaria Escriva Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyperdulia again Posted January 11, 2004 Share Posted January 11, 2004 I'm a dork, but I make a good milkshake. BLAZEr is THE Fr. Groeschel your priest? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLAZEr Posted January 11, 2004 Share Posted January 11, 2004 Nope, but he's a good friend. A very busy friend, but he always answers letters. Especially from young people with real problems . . . as opposed to Old Ladies who want to hem and haw about ridiculous things . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest lundercovera Posted January 11, 2004 Share Posted January 11, 2004 Well howdy Undercover. I'm a Catholic homosexual, so I guess that makes you family twice over. Velcuhm. lol hyper! :cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyperdulia again Posted January 11, 2004 Share Posted January 11, 2004 I am going to bed now. I will remember you in my before bed decade of the Rosary. The Rosary (five decades everyday if you can) is in my opinion (after the Blessed Sacrament) the greatest tool God ever gave mankind for peace, happiness, and the growth of personal holiness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash Wednesday Posted January 11, 2004 Share Posted January 11, 2004 Just talking things through even if you have to be "undercover" I hope will be helpful for you, lundercovera, and I admire your courage to do so. It doesn't matter to me who you are -- just know that you're in my prayers. I'm not the type that likes to "reach out" to other people, but when I gather up the courage to do so I find great help, especially on phatmass. I don't share the same nature of cross that you bear, with same-sex attractions, but I have experienced a great deal of suffering particularly in the past 2 years and I can imagine you have a lot weighing on your heart. Love and prayers for you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatholicAndFanatical Posted January 11, 2004 Share Posted January 11, 2004 Nope, but he's a good friend You know fr Groeschel personally? Thats soo cool. I have that book too, havent read it. My spiritual couselor gave it to me to read..I think I should read it.. Tina, that quote you posted gave me chills. That is so amesome, sometimes I feel like I have two candles lit . Lord have mercy. But thank you sis for posting that, could have happened at a better time. Undercover, keep praying, we all struggle. Especially with chastity. I heard somewhere that we are not all murderers, robbers, or haters. But we are all sexual beings, its instilled in us by God to procreate. Satan uses that against us. He cant get all of us to murder, he cant sway us to steal something, but for some reason when it comes to sexual sins, he seems to have the key to that. At least for some of us. Keep up your prayers and like Hyper said, the rosary is very powerful. Dont underestimate it. A good friend emailed me some encouraging words the other day. In it she said: "God doesn't require that we're successful, he just wants us to be faithful!!!" Keep your chin up and keep fighting. God Bless, CatholicAndFanatical Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasJis Posted January 12, 2004 Share Posted January 12, 2004 lundercovera, Your struggle is only hidden from human help. God already knows your problems, understands them, loves you immensely, and desires to help you. Pray for God's help and listen for Him in your heart and look for His help through other people. Use some caution, but you will have people who have your best intrests at heart, so remain faithful to God's help in prayer. Keep in mind, many people here at phatmass will be praying for you. Many ask God to simply help all the phatmassers in need of His Mercy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest lundercovera Posted January 12, 2004 Share Posted January 12, 2004 :shame: thank you all for your prayers. it really helps me alot to be able to talk to ppl about all this carp. and i've seen from experience PhatMass prayer intercession is strong Peace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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