scardella Posted October 2, 2006 Share Posted October 2, 2006 If you give in to them, then you [i]might[/i] initially feel good. Then you are objectively worse off and you probably won't feel good later. However, if you deny them, you probably won't initially feel good. However, you're objectively better off, and may feel good about it later. Why can't we just have ordered desires? That way, the things we want will make us happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homeschoolmom Posted October 2, 2006 Share Posted October 2, 2006 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest T-Bone Posted October 2, 2006 Share Posted October 2, 2006 Because, we as humans are psychologically fragile, and our new "if it feels good, do it" culture is making self denial alot harder. It compounds and increases the number of disprdered desires. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XIX Posted October 2, 2006 Share Posted October 2, 2006 Offer up your desires to God. Then celebrate when Satan gets... [img]http://neoliquid.com/pwn3d.gif[/img] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EcceNovaFacioOmni Posted October 2, 2006 Share Posted October 2, 2006 (edited) Gross. Edited October 2, 2006 by thedude Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XIX Posted October 2, 2006 Share Posted October 2, 2006 [quote name='thedude' post='1082070' date='Oct 2 2006, 01:30 PM'] Gross. [/quote] It's not as bad as sin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thy Geekdom Come Posted October 2, 2006 Share Posted October 2, 2006 This is why we must master ourselves and train our desires. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash Wednesday Posted October 2, 2006 Share Posted October 2, 2006 Well, your thread and Raph's comment was a small blessing for me and I can say it helped remind me of the importance of avoiding situations where we end up being tempted and desiring that which we cannot, or should not have. Otherwise it makes us very restless and unhappy. So I thank both of you. P.S. I love PWN3D pictures... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scardella Posted October 2, 2006 Author Share Posted October 2, 2006 (edited) I guess I'm not up to that seventh mansion, then. Dang! (Of course, I wasn't really pretending that I was.) It's too bad we don't have text sigs anymore, or else I'd put in: Can somebody wake me up when I reach infused prayer? Edited October 2, 2006 by scardella Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash Wednesday Posted October 2, 2006 Share Posted October 2, 2006 Ah, I need to read Interior Castle again... I don't even know which mansion I'm in... if at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MilesChristi Posted October 2, 2006 Share Posted October 2, 2006 Take heart, friend... "God is faithful, and he will not let you be tempted beyond your strength, but with the temptation will also provide the way of escape, that you may be able to endure it" (1 Cor 10:13). "but he said to me, 'My grace is sufficient for you, for my power is made perfect in weakness.' I will all the more gladly boast of my weaknesses, that the power of Christ may rest upon me" (2 Cor 12:9). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scardella Posted October 2, 2006 Author Share Posted October 2, 2006 [quote name='Ash Wednesday' post='1082163' date='Oct 2 2006, 03:54 PM'] Ah, I need to read Interior Castle again... I don't even know which mansion I'm in... if at all. [/quote] I'm reading Fire Within. Afterwards, I'll have to read the real deal. My impression was that as long as you're in a state of grace, you're at least in the first mansion. [quote name='MilesChristi' post='1082164' date='Oct 2 2006, 03:54 PM'] Take heart, friend... "God is faithful, and he will not let you be tempted beyond your strength, but with the temptation will also provide the way of escape, that you may be able to endure it" (1 Cor 10:13). "but he said to me, 'My grace is sufficient for you, for my power is made perfect in weakness.' I will all the more gladly boast of my weaknesses, that the power of Christ may rest upon me" (2 Cor 12:9). [/quote] I think I'm just being whiny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EcceNovaFacioOmni Posted October 2, 2006 Share Posted October 2, 2006 [quote name='XIX' post='1082134' date='Oct 2 2006, 04:21 PM'] It's not as bad as sin. [/quote] You're right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seven77 Posted October 2, 2006 Share Posted October 2, 2006 read St. Therese...don't sleep: [quote]Really, I am far from being a saint, and what I have just said is proof of this; instead of rejoicing, for example, at my aridity, I should attribute it to my little fervor and lack of fidelity; I should be desolate for having slept (for seven years) during my hours of prayer and my thanksgivings after Holy Communion; well, I am not desolate. I remember that little children are as pleasing to their parents when they are asleep as well as when they are wide awake; I remember, too, that when they perform operations, doctors put their patients to sleep. Finally, I remember that: "The Lord knows our weakness, that he is mindful that we are but dust and ashes." -Story of a Soul[/quote] [quote]You are not sufficiently trusting, you fear God too much. I assure you that this grieves Him. Do not be afraid of going to purgatory because of its pain, but rather long not to go there because this pleases God who imposes this expiation so regretfully. From the moment that you try to please Him in all things, if you have the unshakable confidence that He will purify you at every instant in His love and will leave in you no trace of sin, be very sure that you will not go to purgatory."[/quote] [quote]I know well that it is not my great desires that please God in my little soul, what He likes to see is the way I love my littleness and my poverty; it is my blind hope in His mercy, this is my only treasure.... The weaker one is, without desires or virtues the more ready one is for the operations of this consuming and transforming love.... God rejoices more in what He can do in a soul humbly resigned to its poverty than in the creation of millions of suns and the vast stretch of the heavens.[/quote] temptation is an opportunity to love GOD. when you fall get up and go your Savior--opportunity to kiss his wounds on a crucifix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anastasia13 Posted October 4, 2006 Share Posted October 4, 2006 What is this about mansions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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