foundsheep Posted January 11, 2004 Share Posted January 11, 2004 CLICK HERE Heres an interesting story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyperdulia again Posted January 11, 2004 Share Posted January 11, 2004 bump Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Circle_Master Posted January 11, 2004 Share Posted January 11, 2004 interesting. i believe worthless though. any intelligent president that believes a war might come eventually would get people working on the details a.s.a.p. It doesn't indicate he was a bloodthirsty savage who would stop at nothing to kill Saddam, just that he was prepared and thinking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasJis Posted January 11, 2004 Share Posted January 11, 2004 It is standard Military practice to have plans for all kinds of contingencies incase something happens. I would be shocked (and not believe it) if people claimed plans didn't exist. I have no doubts there are plans for the invasion of Cuba right now that have been updated within the last few years. Caution is the intelligent side of valor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foundsheep Posted January 11, 2004 Author Share Posted January 11, 2004 My question is did he have the mind set of attacking before he even got elected(did he do it for Daddy?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasJis Posted January 11, 2004 Share Posted January 11, 2004 My question is did he have the mind set of attacking before he even got elected(did he do it for Daddy?) And the difference of our opinion would mean... Look. You'd have to take the man's word for it. Disbelieve him or believe him, we have to include current actions in forming our opinion. Was discussing politics with my 99 year old grandmother today. She told me that news people NEVER tell you the whole truth or the whole story. I'll go with that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLAZEr Posted January 11, 2004 Share Posted January 11, 2004 Yeah Sheep, I'm sure the leader of the Free world, just couldn't wait to get into office so he could go and kick a foreign leaders butt just for his dad. I mean, never mind that his dad already kicked his butt once. I'm sure it was an entirely personal attack of vengeance and had nothing to do with anything else. Dude, Bush wasn't raised in East LA, I don't think the mentality fits him . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyperdulia again Posted January 11, 2004 Share Posted January 11, 2004 WASPs are scary. I'm relaated to some. :ph34r: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.SIGGA Posted January 11, 2004 Share Posted January 11, 2004 any intelligent president when talking about dubya, here is the problem. hehehe. j/k :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.SIGGA Posted January 11, 2004 Share Posted January 11, 2004 Dude, Bush wasn't raised in East LA, I don't think the mentality fits him . . . well the menendez brothers were raised in beverly hills and... ('nough said) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speech Posted January 11, 2004 Share Posted January 11, 2004 BLAZer writes: Dude, Bush wasn't raised in East LA, I don't think the mentality fits him . . . I think his tendency to solve international conflict through military action rather than diplomacy shows that this mentality does fit him. We've had two wars since he got into office, and his term isn't even over yet. Can you please give me the name of even one modern President -- for that matter, any President at all -- who has engaged America in two wars during a single term as President? I think the answer is proof enough that Bush does have the "let's blow 'em up" mindset. Also, I'd like to point out that Bush was raised in Texas, which may be worse than being raised in East L.A. I'm fairly sure they still think they're an independent nation down there. And did you know that prior to his term as President, Texas led the nation with him as governor in the highest number of times using capital punishment? Obviously, he thinks violence is the answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.SIGGA Posted January 11, 2004 Share Posted January 11, 2004 On the topic of war, I think most of the war planning was probably from his war-mongering associates Rumsfeld and Cheney. Bush is way too country to be so global all of the sudden. The guy never left the continental U.S. until after he was inagurated. I don't like his death penalty record either, but I don't really blame him totally for the war. He's more of a spokesperson for the war. Like Jimmy Carter, I would have liked him better just as a nice powerless Christian man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrndveritatis Posted January 14, 2004 Share Posted January 14, 2004 Does it not matter that Saddam was executing thousands of civilians? Does it not matter that Saddam was building WMDs (no sane person would deny this, even if we haven't found any, what did you expect, Saddam to leave signs pointing to the weapons?) Does it not matter that Saddam was in violation of numerous UN resolutions, including a resolution issued the previous year authorizing the use of force if Saddam did not resolve these violations? Does it not matter that Saddam was paying homicide bombers to massacre Israeli men, women and children? I guess not. I guess it was just an evil, unintelligent spoiled kid from Texas who likes war and wants oil. Of course Bush was not thinking about the responsibility laid upon his soul for the protection of the United States. He of course was not thinking about the price of inaction, and the risks it would pose to American civilians. I guess it doesn't matter that France and Germany opposed the liberation of Iraq because they had lucrative contracts with Saddam. I guess it doesn't matter that Russia was selling technology to Saddam. Oh please. Is is not disturbing that many Catholic leaders were vehemently outspoken in opposition to a war which was a matter of prudential judgment, while remaining silent on issues such as abortion and contraception? (Please note, I am not referring to JP2 here. He obviously speaks out against the evils of our day.) Is it not a travesty that some Catholics vote for pro-abortion candidates in violation of clear moral principles, thereby endangering their eternal salvation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.SIGGA Posted January 14, 2004 Share Posted January 14, 2004 Fox News couldn't have said it any better :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyperdulia again Posted January 14, 2004 Share Posted January 14, 2004 Siggga! I think WE might be the same person ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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