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Actually, the Pope has granted at least one, maybe more plenary indulgences in the last year that merely require you to go to confession and pray.

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[quote name='Budge' post='1077995' date='Sep 28 2006, 02:06 PM']
and after all that Proud Rome, still kept INDULGENCES.

Which still TODAY are based on how much money you have.

To VISIT places of pilgramage, a huge way that indulgences are earned, still takes being able to afford the travel, plane tickets and more.

To do good works, you have to have resources to share.

The homeless guy in the gutter with no family or friends to pray him out of Purgatory, really gets the short end of the stick in Catholicism.
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bull.
That homeless guy can go to a catholic shelter and eat and be clothed, or a catholic hospital and get free medical care, or a catholic church to ask for prayers.
AND
It costs no money at all to pray with the dying, visit the sick, comfort the lonely neighbor, pray at the local murder mill, or help at your local food bank.

Good Works!

To feed the hungry;
To give drink to the thirsty;
To clothe the naked;
To harbour the harbourless;
To visit the sick;
To ransom the captive;
To bury the dead.
To instruct the ignorant;
To counsel the doubtful;
To admonish sinners;
To bear wrongs patiently;
To forgive offences willingly;
To comfort the afflicted;
To pray for the living and the dead.

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most indulgences are a prayer + confession + communion

the stations of the cross + confession + communion = indulgence

certain prayers over the period of a month, with the usual conditions (i.e. confession and communion) have plenary indulgences attached to them.

Budge has no idea what she's talking about here.

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WHAT AN INDULGENCE IS NOT
To facilitate explanation, it may be well to state what an indulgence is not. It is not a permission to commit sin, nor a pardon of future sin; neither could be granted by any power. It is not the forgiveness of the guilt of sin; it supposes that the sin has already been forgiven. It is not an exemption from any law or duty, and much less from the obligation consequent on certain kinds of sin, e.g., restitution; on the contrary, it means a more complete payment of the debt which the sinner owes to God. It does not confer immunity from temptation or remove the possibility of subsequent lapses into sin. Least of all is an indulgence the purchase of a pardon which secures the buyer's salvation or releases the soul of another from Purgatory. The absurdity of such notions must be obvious to any one who forms a correct idea of what the Catholic Church really teaches on this subject.

WHAT AN INDULGENCE IS
An indulgence is the extra-sacramental remission of the temporal punishment due, in God's justice, to sin that has been forgiven, which remission is granted by the Church in the exercise of the power of the keys, through the application of the superabundant merits of Christ and of the saints, and for some just and reasonable motive.

NewAdvent

[quote name='curtins' post='1077254' date='Sep 27 2006, 10:33 PM']
I watched the movie "Luther" Today and we're learning about the reformation in Social Studies.

It seems to me that Luther's original intentions were good but people in his movement took things out of hand and he got caught up in it and went radical with some stuff.

What do you guys think?
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[url="http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/09438b.htm"]http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/09438b.htm[/url]

[url="http://catholicculture.org/docs/doc_view.cfm?recnum=548"]http://catholicculture.org/docs/doc_view.cfm?recnum=548[/url]

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