Love Your Neighbor As Yourself..

[Guest play_ground]

I have to say that I am disappointed in what I saw in the forum in my hopes to learn more about Catholicism. I never realized that Catholics viewed the other denominations of Christianity in such ways. Is this your way of building one another up with the assistance of the Word of God?

Let us love one another as God loves us.

But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; {Matthew 5:44 }

{ Mark 12:30 } And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment.

{ Mark 12:31 } And the second is like, namely this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these.

Edited January 10, 2004 by play_ground

[Lil Red]

what are you referring to? Could you give us specific examples of what you are accusing us of?

[Aloysius]

do you not like how we believe Catholocism is the one true religion founded by Jesus Christ and protestantism only has truth because it took it from us?

I love protestants as my brothers and sisters. i hate protestantism because it seperates them from me :sadder: .

[Lil Red]

do you not like how we believe Catholocism is the one true religion founded by Jesus Christ and protestantism only has truth because it took it from us?

I love protestants as my brothers and sisters. i hate protestantism because it seperates them from me :sadder: .

word.

[Mary's Knight, La]

we do love our seperated brethren,

but it would be perhaps the pinnacle of hatred to not correct them when they are in error. yes we are firm with those who do not approach us with love but we do love them.

and Al's love hate thing is right on the mark too

[foundsheep]

Amen

[MrsFrozen]

I have to say that I am disappointed in what I saw in the forum in my hopes to learn more about Catholicism. I never realized that Catholics viewed the other denominations of Christianity in such ways. Is this your way of building one another up with the assistance of the Word of God?

Let us love one another as God loves us.

But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; {Matthew 5:44 }

{ Mark 12:30 } And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment.

{ Mark 12:31 } And the second is like, namely this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these.

Hi, Play_Ground. I don't think I have seen you here before.. Welcome to Phatmass.

I have seen some somewhat hostile behavior on this board on occasion, but it has come from both sides of the argument. You're right that we should always love our neighbors and enemies (though I don't consider anyone here my enemy!) and I do try to keep that in mind. The debates get heated, I know. Sometimes we do need to be reminded of these Bible verses, not just on the boards but in ever aspect of our lives.

God bless you. :)

[Anna]

Well, I for one have been a smart alec.

I guess a few too many times of protestant fundies coming on here with sarcastic put downs and telling us that we need to "get into the Bible," and something just snapped. The way they disrespectfully treated, called names, and insulted senior posters (one in particular) on this phorum. It just made me plain, darn angry. And I let them know it.

I won't defend all of my words, but I will defend my motives. I perhaps could have said things more delicately, more lovingly. (But then again, I don't think the two most recent antagonists would have understood that language. They seemed to need to be eased into it!)

But zeal for the House of the Lord consumes me, and zeal for my brothers and sisters in the Lord as well. If my Church's teachings are going to be twisted, mocked, and challenged, there I will be to defend Her. Same goes for my friends.

This, after all, is a Debate Table. You'll find harsher arguments here than elsewhere on PhatMass.

And stick around, you may find you misjudged us.

Pax Christi. <><

[Bruce S]

Catholicism is the one true religion

See....

That is the basic divergent point.

Of course, everyone gets hopping mad at me when I happen to point out that we are Christians too.... and Christianity is the one true "religion."

Oh well, what are ya gonna do?

:unsure:

[hyperdulia again]

You are indeed Christians. No Catholic denies that you are.

Catholicism is the One True Faith.

[MrsFrozen]

Of course, everyone gets hopping mad at me when I happen to point out that we are Christians too.... and Christianity is the one true "religion."

Bruce, not EVERYONE gets mad, now. Don't say that.

God bless. :)

[dUSt]

See....

That is the basic divergent point.

Of course, everyone gets hopping mad at me when I happen to point out that we are Christians too.... and Christianity is the one true "religion."

Oh well, what are ya gonna do?

Bruce S,

Honest question. Why would you be part of a religion if you did not believe it to be the one true religion?

Is there more than one true religion?

The differences between Catholicism and Protestantism are great. We can't pretend that both are true, and I know that you don't believe that to be the case--so why accuse us of holding the belief of one true religion? Do you not believe there is such a thing?

[Circle_Master]

do you not like how we believe Catholocism is the one true religion founded by Jesus Christ and protestantism only has truth because it took it from us?

I love protestants as my brothers and sisters. i hate protestantism because it seperates them from me :sadder: .

this is what separates us.

No protestant claims to be truth - only to be seeking truth.

Catholics claim to be truth - and seek no farther than what they have.

One seeks truth despite believe he already has truth, the other will not consider. I have debated on here for a while, and that is exactly what is seen over and over again. Someone can argue from a 100% incorrect point (even by CC standards) and the other Catholics will back him up because they cannot lose any point, or admit they were wrong on anything. If a protestant gets a point - maybe we aren't right! This deals with things the church teaches, and things it does not teach. Eventually the point argued is passed over and out of kindness, and via threats that I ignore other arguments, I continue to move on to keep it civil.

The first command given to all Christians were to seek first the kingdom of God. The kingdom of God first - not seek total annihilation of all doubt. Doubt is removed by faith, and by growth, by seeing, not blocking. We are told to imitate Christ, and to destroy sin - we cannot imitate Christ if we are seeking perfection in teaching. Consider, look for truth, fall on your knees to God for truth. To assume you have it is the first step towards a fall of pride and Satan rejoices. Not implying you don't have it, but that is still pride, and we are called not to be stubborn in faith, but to work out our salvation in fear and trembling. Begging each day to learn anew what the power of Christ is in our lives, begging each day to seek his glory, to only behold His face. Not for His grace as a dispenser - but His love as a father and what we all need. He is a marvelous God, and a wondrous God, and He must be sought first always despite any intellectual dillemma's we face, despite any teaching we are told, despite any tradition considered his, seek Him first. That is my piece, and I can begin to see the prideful posts after this declaring that we do have the truth though. Get over yourself and realize we are sinners, and we are fallen - pray and seek God for that is all you can do when you come down to it, and He will lead you to the truth, Him alone.

[Aloysius]

we don't think we can find perfection in teaching.

i am not proud. i admit i may be wrong. but i have faith in Christ and I believe CHrist founded the Catholic Church, so i believe that anything in accordance with Catholic teaching is correct and that when i am wrong, i am accidentally contradicting the Church in some way.

No protestant claims to be truth - only to be seeking truth.

Catholics claim to be truth - and seek no farther than what they have.

not true. Catholics don't claim to be truth. Catholocism claims to be Truth because of it's strong faith that Christ will keep it out of error. Good Catholics claim to be wretched human beings who have a guide given them by Christ that, when disputes come up, they can look to to dispel the lie and provide the truth that they may know what Christ actually intended us to believe.

the difference is that protestants claim there is nothing currently in existence which has the fullness of Truth and that we must continually seek it out in random places even if that leads us all in all different directions, where as Catholics claim that the Church has the fullness of Truth and we can continually seek it out in a specific place, the Church.

anyway, i stand by my statement that protestantism separates us. for we were unified before protestantism. the ones who start the protest are the ones who start the seperation.

but we shouldn't be seperated

I LOVE YOU CIRCLE MASTER! YOU TOO PLAYGROUND!

i only fight you because i want us to one day all be in the same truth. you think that you can seek it out on your own guided by the Spirit. i claim we can seek it out with the aid of the Church guided by the Spirit and that if we try it on our own our own biases block the guidance of the Spirit too much and we really can't recognize when we're blocking His guidance.

[jasJis]

One seeks truth despite believe he already has truth, the other will not consider. I have debated on here for a while, and that is exactly what is seen over and over again. Someone can argue from a 100% incorrect point (even by CC standards) and the other Catholics will back him up because they cannot lose any point, or admit they were wrong on anything. If a protestant gets a point - maybe we aren't right! This deals with things the church teaches, and things it does not teach. Eventually the point argued is passed over and out of kindness, and via threats that I ignore other arguments, I continue to move on to keep it civil.

I don't think that is true at all. Catholics are much more tolerant of rudeness and poor behavior from other Catholics. (And I'm not saying that is right.) But no Catholic is going to get away with posting a falsehood about what the Church teaches and have any Catholic knowingly ignore it. Also, please keep in mind, we aren't infallible.