N/A Gone Posted September 15, 2006 Share Posted September 15, 2006 [url="http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com/Investing/CNBC/TVReports/PreachingMessageSelfWorth.aspx?GT1=8579"]http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com/Inves...h.aspx?GT1=8579[/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laudate_Dominum Posted September 15, 2006 Share Posted September 15, 2006 talk about preaching another gospel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N/A Gone Posted September 15, 2006 Author Share Posted September 15, 2006 This is really dangerous. As someone who works in a business situation i see this alot in protestant friends. It perverts our understanding of God. thanks for the smile L_D....wanna help me on the fix-me thread? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laudate_Dominum Posted September 15, 2006 Share Posted September 15, 2006 yeah, it reminds me of something I was reading the other day about how the west is obsessed with economics and materialism, I can't argue there. the fellow's point was that spiritual values are necessary for the future of humanity and it is precisely the American way that screws this up. In light of this, I can see the guy's point. I mean only in America could you even have such an absurd concept. [quote name='Revprodeji' post='1063272' date='Sep 15 2006, 01:02 AM'] thanks for the smile L_D....wanna help me on the fix-me thread? [/quote] hmm... you know I'm all about your heavy theological discussions. I was about to call it a night though.. hopefully I'll have some time to get deep really soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fides_et_Ratio Posted September 15, 2006 Share Posted September 15, 2006 we discussed this in my Scripture class yesterday... the new cover story for TIME magazine is along the same lines. The prof was really good about explaining "this is what happens very easily when you take just a few passages of Scripture and ignore the rest... or when you ignore the entire history (/tradition) of Christianity." He related it really well to the messages of the prophets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thessalonian Posted September 15, 2006 Share Posted September 15, 2006 He does want us rich! Spiritually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmotherofpirl Posted September 15, 2006 Share Posted September 15, 2006 Hillaire Belloc in Essays of a Catholic says that "in Catholic culture men will envy wealth, in the Protestant they will pay it sacramental respect." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laudate_Dominum Posted September 16, 2006 Share Posted September 16, 2006 [quote name='cmotherofpirl' post='1063413' date='Sep 15 2006, 10:06 AM'] Hillaire Belloc in Essays of a Catholic says that "in Catholic culture men will envy wealth, in the Protestant they will pay it sacramental respect." [/quote] It can be masterfully argued that the real driving force behind the protestant revolt was greed and worldly ambition. The early history of protestantism is pretty revealing too. Scary and perverse actually. I wish these topics came up more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sojourner Posted September 16, 2006 Share Posted September 16, 2006 [quote name='Laudate_Dominum' post='1064062' date='Sep 16 2006, 03:38 AM'] It can be masterfully argued that the real driving force behind the protestant revolt was greed and worldly ambition. The early history of protestantism is pretty revealing too. Scary and perverse actually. I wish these topics came up more. [/quote] I ran across hints of stuff along those lines when I was reading up on the reformation before I converted. It was one of the things that convinced me that the "reformers" were not as good-hearted as they'd been painted in all my Sunday School classes growing up. If they were wrong to have left in the first place, I figured I had no business continuing to affirm them. So here I am. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lounge Daddy Posted September 17, 2006 Share Posted September 17, 2006 [quote name='cmotherofpirl' post='1063413' date='Sep 15 2006, 12:06 PM'] Hillaire Belloc in Essays of a Catholic says that "in Catholic culture men will envy wealth, in the Protestant they will pay it sacramental respect." [/quote] I like that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romans1513 Posted September 17, 2006 Share Posted September 17, 2006 (edited) [color="#336666"]I read the (Newsweek?) article about this a few days ago. It really bothered me how they use John 10:10 "I came so that they might have life and have it more abundantly". Life abundantly here does not mean rich!!! Didn't they ever read the beatitudes? ~Katie[/color] Edited September 17, 2006 by Romans1513 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phatcatholic Posted September 18, 2006 Share Posted September 18, 2006 peep these links: [url="http://www.phatmass.com/directory/index.php/cat/630"]http://www.phatmass.com/directory/index.php/cat/630[/url] [url="http://web.archive.org/web/20031211142816/http://ic.net/~erasmus/RAZ440.HTM"]http://web.archive.org/web/20031211142816/...smus/RAZ440.HTM[/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N/A Gone Posted September 18, 2006 Author Share Posted September 18, 2006 ahh materialism..if i have more money i can buy more books.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phatcatholic Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 [quote name='Revprodeji' post='1065744' date='Sep 18 2006, 02:17 AM'] ahh materialism..if i have more money i can buy more books.. [/quote] well, in that case!! *looks for the nearest Assemblies of God church...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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