I Love Jesus

[Akalyte]

I love Jesus

I receive him every sunday and he builds a throne in my heart.

I have a relationship with him.

He forgives me my sins.

He has redeemed me.



That's all I wanted to say.

[homeschoolmom]

What's the debate?

[Extra ecclesiam nulla salus]

what is there to debate? hahaha

good on you!

[Budge]

[quote]I receive him every sunday and he builds a throne in my heart.
[/quote]

I don't have to go for fill-ups



I received Jesus Christ as my savior biblically via FAITH, not via WAFER

Edited September 8, 2006 by Budge

[Akalyte]

I just new this would get to budge. Budge that is a very judgemental and disheartening thing to say. Are you saying I dont know Jesus and Jesus doesnt know me? You know this for fact?

[Extra ecclesiam nulla salus]

[quote name='Budge' post='1058721' date='Sep 7 2006, 10:08 PM']
I don't have to go for fill-ups



I received Jesus Christ as my savior biblically via FAITH, not via WAFER
[/quote]


you Must never have recieved the True Lord. Do you think we do not have faith in Jesus?

i thought you believed that Faith=salvation. well i have faith in Christ. or is it by faith alone=salvation (except if you are catholic)?

[Budge]

[quote]Are you saying I dont know Jesus and Jesus doesnt know me? You know this for fact?[/quote]

If you know Jesus truly, you will not remain Catholic for long.

Ill give u this, at least you have the discernment to know the interfaith all religions lead to God stuff is wrong.

[homeschoolmom]

faith alone cannot = salvation. What if you lose your faith? Then you lose your salvation... which means you never had salvation in the first place.

[Budge]

[quote]
i thought you believed that Faith=salvation. well i have faith in Christ. or is it by faith alone=salvation (except if you are catholic)?[/quote]

If you have faith in Jesus totally and alone, recieving him via FAITH, not wafer, knowing the true gospel that is based in Him rather then in working your way to heaven, then you would be saved.

But if you have faith in Jesus PLUS Pope, SACRAMENTS, Mary, Eucharist, communion of Saints, PURGATORY to cleanse you from your sin, youre SUNK.

[Akalyte]

Christ found me when I was praying as an atheist at a Catholic Shrine. I was reborn mind and heart changed directions at that moment. I never felt so much joy and love in my life.

[Dave]

[quote name='Budge' post='1058721' date='Sep 7 2006, 10:08 PM']
I don't have to go for fill-ups

[/quote]

Then you're deceiving yourself, Budgie-poo. Jesus said that if we didn't eat His Body and drink His Blood, we'd have no life within us.

[quote]I received Jesus Christ as my savior biblically via FAITH, not via WAFER
[/quote]

Sorry, hon, but the "wafer" way, as you call it, is the truly biblical way.

[Budge]

I went from the UU back to the Catholic church for a short time before I was born again.

Who knows, anything could happen....

I'll pray that you come to know Jesus Christ alone for your salvation.

Then your life will really change..

[url="http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/how_to_be_saved.html"]HOW TO BE SAVED IN JESUS CHRIST[/url]

[quote]Thieves and Robbers Try to Sneak into Heaven Without Jesus

Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that entereth not by THE DOOR into the sheepfold, but climbeth up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber” (John 10:1). God says you are “a thief and a robber” if you are trying to enter Heaven through a side door or an underground tunnel. You’re a thief because your illegally trying to make an entrance. Jesus paid for our sins because we simply CANNOT pay for our own sins. The ticket into Heaven has been paid for, all you have to do is accept the free gift of eternal life through Jesus Christ. Since you cannot pay for your own ticket, you don’t have an other choice if you want to enter into Heaven’s pearly gates. It’s Jesus or hell folks, I cannot stress this enough! John 10:9 says, “I AM THE DOOR: by me if any man enter in, he shall be saved, and shall go in and out, and find pasture.” Jesus is the door into Heaven. Listen to John 11:25,26. “Jesus said unto her, I AM THE RESURRECTION, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live: And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this?” Believest thou this? Do you believe the words which Jesus spoke? “Jesus saith unto him, I AM THE WAY, THE TRUTH, and THE LIFE: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me” (John 14:6). Mary CANNOT save you. The Pope CANNOT save you. The priest CANNOT forgive your sins. Only Jesus CAN save you and forgive your sins. “I AM THE GOOD SHEPHERD: the good shepherd giveth his life for the sheep” (John 10:11). What a wondrous Savior! Being saved is so simple—all we must do is believe, “Just enough” to call upon the name of the Lord. “For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be SAVED” (Romans 10:13). The word “call” means to believe. It does NOT means that you have to audibly sound your voice to be saved. Salvation is of the heart, not the mouth. The mouth can do nothing to save you. You must believe in your heart that Christ raised from the dead and trust in Him. Do you believe He arose after being crucified and buried? Some folks think Jesus is dead. Let me tell you my friend, Christ is alive and well and lives within the heart of every Christian Believer. Let me encourage you again to put all your faith in Jesus Christ if you have never done so, make that decision to do so now.

Table of Contents[/quote]

[url="http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/salvation_webpages/12-put_all_your_faith_in_jesus.htm"]LINK[/url]

Edited September 8, 2006 by Budge

[Akalyte]

I guess that all means nothing? or is it from satan? to turn an unbeliever into a believer? Ya know what ive witnessed while recieving Christ one sunday?

I felt as if I was going to vanish into thin air, and go to heaven. full of joy and totally happy. I'm a Roman Catholic and yes I love Jesus. He has answered many prayers for me and my family.



[quote name='Budge' post='1058738' date='Sep 7 2006, 09:21 PM']
I went from the UU back to the Catholic church for a short time before I was born again.

Who knows, anything could happen....

I'll pray that you come to know Jesus Christ alone for your salvation.

Then your life will really change..

[url="http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/how_to_be_saved.html"]HOW TO BE SAVED IN JESUS CHRIST[/url]
[url="http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/salvation_webpages/12-put_all_your_faith_in_jesus.htm"]LINK[/url]
[/quote]


Catholics rely on Jesus alone for Salvation. Mary, the Saints, Popes, Priests, Nuns, they all point to Jesus. They say go to Jesus.

[quote]The Didache-2. And thou shalt seek daily the presence of the saints, that thou mayest find rest in their words.[/quote]

[quote]Ignatius of Antioch, 110 AD "They abstain from the Eucharist and from prayer, because they do not confess that the Eucharist is the flesh of our savior Jesus Christ, flesh which suffered for our sins and which the Father, in his goodness, raised up again... Let that be considered a valid Eucharist which is celebrated by the bishop, or by one whom he appoints. Wherever the bishop appears, let the people be there; just as wherever Jesus Christ is, there is the Catholic Church." (Epistle to the Smyreans)


"Take heed, then, to have but one Eucharist. For there is one flesh of our Lord Jesus Christ, and one cup to [show forth] the unity of His blood; one altar; as there is one bishop, along with the presbytery and deacons, my fellow-servants: that so, whatsoever you do, you may do it according to [the will of] God." (Epistle to the Philadelphians)[/quote]

Edited September 8, 2006 by Akalyte

[Dave]

[quote name='Budge' post='1058732' date='Sep 7 2006, 10:14 PM']
If you have faith in Jesus totally and alone, recieving him via FAITH, not wafer, knowing the true gospel that is based in Him rather then in working your way to heaven, then you would be saved.

But if you have faith in Jesus PLUS Pope, SACRAMENTS, Mary, Eucharist, communion of Saints, PURGATORY to cleanse you from your sin, youre SUNK.
[/quote]

Budge, we do not believe that we have to work our way to heaven. The Catholic Church doesn't teach that! And where did any of us say that the pope, Mary, communion of saints, etc. could cleanse us from our sins? NOWHERE! Only Christ cleanses us from our sin, but He established His Church as a means of taking advantage of that cleansing which He wrought by His suffering, death, and resurrection. And the office of pope was instituted by Christ. In addition, Mary, in addition to being the Mother of Christ, is also Mother of the Church, so she prays for her children. And we do need her prayers, as well as the prayers of all the saints!

The sacraments, including the Eucharist, are ways in which Jesus imparts His grace to us -- the grace that He won on the cross. But we don't receive them mindlessly; we have to receive them devoutly and know what we're receiving and why! And only certain sacraments are meant to cleanse you from sin. Finally, purgatory is mainly for those whose sins are ALREADY forgiven but who still have to undergo punishment for their sins. Remember King David? He was forgiven for his sins of adultery and murder, but he was still punished in that his son died.


[quote name='Budge' post='1058738' date='Sep 7 2006, 10:21 PM']
I went from the UU back to the Catholic church for a short time before I was born again.

Who knows, anything could happen....[/quote]

No, Budgie-poo, you were born again when you were BAPTIZED.

[quote]I'll pray that you come to know Jesus Christ alone for your salvation.

Then your life will really change..
[/quote]

All of us Catholics here know Christ alone for our salvation. And we can't truly and fully know Christ unless we join His Church. So Budge, by leaving the Catholic Church, you, in the words of St. Paul, exchanged the truth for a lie. Now you only think you have the full truth, but you're deceiving yourself.

[Seven77]

Jesus loves you, Budge. So do I. So shutup satan.