PyroPenguinX07 Posted January 13, 2004 Share Posted January 13, 2004 Allah is a misrepresentation of what they think YHWH is. Actually I thought Allah and God were both the same people. Muhammed believed in our God before he was "called" and fled to Mecca where he started his preaching Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmotherofpirl Posted January 13, 2004 Share Posted January 13, 2004 THere is only one God, so the Muslims got that part right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willguy Posted January 13, 2004 Share Posted January 13, 2004 Allah is Arabic for "God." It was also the name of the prime god in Arabian pantheon. According to Mohammed, there is only one god, and his name is Allah. He is the God of Abraham. They believe Jesus is a prophet, but not the Son. It is interesting, however, that they believe that Jesus was born of a virgin and that John the Baptist was the announcer for Jesus, yet Mohammed, the main prophet, was born normally with no forerunner. One big thing that brings Islam into question for me are the "Satanic verses," but that's a whole 'nother topic. As for no-tw's post, I think it was far too harsh. I believe that Muslims at least intend to pray to the same God that we do (the God of Abraham). And Mohammed is not an idol. He was a real man, and he is not worshiped within Islam as anything more than a prophet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FX2 Posted January 13, 2004 Share Posted January 13, 2004 dont they look at Jesus as a prophet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don John of Austria Posted January 13, 2004 Share Posted January 13, 2004 Man I guess I am sittting over here in my 16thcentury world but you know lets call a spade a spade. Islam is evil, the fact that some people who follow islam are not personally evil but trying to do what is right does not abrogate the Evil that is Islam, I am sure many Nazis where trying to do what was right too but noone defends Nazism. Islam is evil, Mohammed was either a charlatan or a dupe of the Devil either way his religion is false and inspired by Satan( if he was a fake then satan still is preeminant as he is the Father of Lies) So yeah Mohamet will probably burn, Allah is a false god so either he doesn't exist or he is a demon in which case he is already burning, or he is God but butchered beyond recognition. LEt us pray for the conversion of the Muslims. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyperdulia again Posted January 13, 2004 Share Posted January 13, 2004 I vote for God butchered beyond recognition. The same thing I think about JWs "jehovah". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyperdulia again Posted January 13, 2004 Share Posted January 13, 2004 I vote for God butchered beyond recognition. The same thing I think about JWs "jehovah". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don John of Austria Posted January 13, 2004 Share Posted January 13, 2004 no other comments curious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PyroPenguinX07 Posted January 14, 2004 Share Posted January 14, 2004 Allah is our God Catholics, Jews, and Muslims all believe in the same God and trace their roots back to Abraham. Muhammed is supposedly a descendant of Ismael or Isaac (i forgot which one) who was cast out by Sarai (Abrahams wife) after she had a child for their heir. Another things is that our world will always have its extremeist like Osama who believes America is an enemy to their religion. Don't forget that Catholics, Jews, Hindus, and most other religion (except Buddhism wonder why?) all have people fighting for them. Look back at the Christians who fought the Crusades for the Holy Land. Jesus taught love but we still had our extremeists fighting. (Wow I actually made an intelligent post!!! :D) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don John of Austria Posted January 14, 2004 Share Posted January 14, 2004 The Crusades were good and holy things inspired and willed by God, tread carefully here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmotherofpirl Posted January 14, 2004 Share Posted January 14, 2004 THe crusades were not a bad thing, they just got bad press. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PyroPenguinX07 Posted January 14, 2004 Share Posted January 14, 2004 The Crusades were good and holy things inspired and willed by God, tread carefully here. The Crusades were because the Islamic people took over the Holy Land. I mean they should have sent diplomats and other types of ministers there before going to fight. Besides after the First one all the others were failures. Oh and speaking of the first one after the crusaders got there they looted the city and everything on their way home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dabukthumpa Posted January 14, 2004 Share Posted January 14, 2004 While Catholics - Muslims - and Jews all believe in one God - this is correct. But to say that we believe in the Same God - this is a very differert thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dabukthumpa Posted January 14, 2004 Share Posted January 14, 2004 Allah is our God Catholics, Jews, and Muslims all believe in the same God While Catholics - Muslims - and Jews all believe in one God - this is correct. But to say that we believe in the Same God - this is a very differert thing. Peace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aloysius Posted January 14, 2004 Share Posted January 14, 2004 the crusades were in response to muslim attacks on the Eastern Church. as i understand it, the Easter Patriarchs asked the Pope for help and he sent it. there was an immediate danger to all of Christendome and the Crusades were the response. in a purely secular point of view, Christianity would not have survived if it werent for the crusades. in a Catholic point of view we know God protects His Church, but looking back in history assume that the way he allowed for protection of His Church was through the crusades and don't really question what would have happened if not for them, for we can never imagine a reality wherein the Church founded and protected by Christ has been defeted. :shield: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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