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Heretical Hymns?


Colleen

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I found this today. I think it's great. :)

[url="http://catholiceducation.org/articles/arts/al0288.htm"]http://catholiceducation.org/articles/arts/al0288.htm[/url]

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homeschoolmom

What's sad is that in just a couple of years as a Catholic, I know all those hymns... in fact, I rarely hear a new one. It seems as though we are destined to sing the same handful over and over and over....

But we have a new music director-- I'm optomistic.

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While I agree that hymns and songs containing hereodoxy have no place at Mass (or other Catholic gatherings), I'm not as quick to agree that we shouldn't sing in the voice of Christ. So long as it's doctinally sound, why not? We certainly quote Jesus often enough ......

The one thing to be careful of is that it should be very clear that Jesus is meant to the one speaking in the song... so that it isn't confusing.

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[quote name='cmotherofpirl' post='1054995' date='Aug 31 2006, 11:56 PM']
I think he is wrong about [i]Be not Afraid.[/i]
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I can see his point about "Be Not Afraid", but hymns aren't necessarily praying, but proclaiming as well. If speaking with the words of Christ, it would just be a proclamation of those words.

I actually like "Be Not Afraid" though, the melody.

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I read that recently as well....I sent it to my "STAPLES Moderator" (St. Thomas Aquinas Prayer Liturgy and Evangelization Squad, we plan our schoool masses....we (not I) also like to add things to the Mass which makes me really mad....) hoping that she would care? But no.....anyway I can only do so much. I'm the sacristan for my school :)!

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[quote name='thedude' post='1055046' date='Aug 31 2006, 11:57 PM']
I must admit some sympathies for "I Am the Bread of Life" because I dig the Gospel of John...
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I want "I Am the Bread of Life" played at my funeral full blast for all my non-Catholic friends' benefit.

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JMJ
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I just think the following quote, from Msgr. Robert Hugh Benson's novel [i]The Necromancers[/i], is great...

"For the pastor always said, 'It seems that only heretics go in for hymns.'"

Some hymns are beautiful and raise the mind to God. Ultimately, though, hymnody doesn't really begin until the Protestants had to replace things like the introit.

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cmotherofpirl

[quote name='Era Might' post='1055034' date='Sep 1 2006, 12:35 AM']
I can see his point about "Be Not Afraid", but hymns aren't necessarily praying, but proclaiming as well. If speaking with the words of Christ, it would just be a proclamation of those words.

I actually like "Be Not Afraid" though, the melody.
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I like it. There is nothing wrong with proclaiming the word of God. If you were singing a psalm it would be in the first person as well. I sing this at funerals about every other week or so. The melody is stirring, the harmonies amazing, and it stirs peoples heart to God. THAT is a good enough hymn for me. :)

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Thy Geekdom Come

I like Be Not Afraid in itself (it's a little sappy, but it's calming), but I don't think I care for it at Mass.

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personally, i love I Am The Bread of Life... Bread of Life too.. I agree about the heretical things, but a lot of the songs the "heresy" contained therein is so small and insignificant that you have to really analyze the song in depth and in one particular way, versus all the other ways you could interpret that song. Just because we "rise again from the ashes to be created anew" (or whatever teh exact wording was) doesn't mean Christ didn't raise us up from those ashes.

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Thy Geekdom Come

[quote name='Franimus' post='1055237' date='Sep 1 2006, 04:40 PM']
personally, i love I Am The Bread of Life... Bread of Life too.. I agree about the heretical things, but a lot of the songs the "heresy" contained therein is so small and insignificant that you have to really analyze the song in depth and in one particular way, versus all the other ways you could interpret that song. Just because we "rise again from the ashes to be created anew" (or whatever teh exact wording was) doesn't mean Christ didn't raise us up from those ashes.
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The problem with the ashes song is that it's "to create ourselves anew," which implies that we do it.

However, the change you made to it may be sufficient for theological accuracy.

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